GTRA | RSeat WSGTC S3 | Preseason Round 5 | Spa-Francorchamps
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- nottingham
- twistedfirework
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The rules are decided. If everyone keeps to them, everything will run smoothly. It's the same track do you shouldn't need to change anything anyway. 👍
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- France
I was cool for the 5 preseason races we had. and I was focused on the organization (plan races, contacting PURE, create all the sheets, create a new WSGTC Staff team, find new Stewards, answer PM's (I received about 20 PM's per day last weeks), etc...).
Now, regular season is open, all the rules are clear, so... now I can be strict
But I'm not alone in the staff, and my main work is not to penalize drivers. I just keep an eye on what happen. My main work is to "supervise"..
EYE HAVE YOU
Now, regular season is open, all the rules are clear, so... now I can be strict
But I'm not alone in the staff, and my main work is not to penalize drivers. I just keep an eye on what happen. My main work is to "supervise"..
EYE HAVE YOU
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Yeah that almost became a big mess.I was on old tires when Litchi and maxx caught me in Blanchimont.I hoped i was clear when i saw a flash in the mirror and suddenly you were there too.I dont think we touched but it was close call for sure.Not sure what was happening at the start. We (500s) let the 300s do the 1st lap and I thought they were supposed to line up behind us. Litchi said to stop and let them lead again so we were starting behind them for the race. Race went good for me, managed to open up the gap on 1st stint. On second stint I was catching IForce into the last chicane and I thought he was letting me though but it was going to be tight. As I was going into the turn he started coming in too. I almost T bonded him, but think it might have been a bit more my fault. But all good as we managed to stay off each other. Ty IForce for quick thinking on your part to leave enough room.
Almost caught they gt300 leader but just ran out of Laps. 1 more corner and I would have got him.
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That start procedure makes perfect sense now.Hopefully it will be in the OP next time
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IforceV8Yeah that almost became a big mess.I was on old tires when Litchi and maxx caught me in Blanchimont.I hoped i was clear when i saw a flash in the mirror and suddenly you were there too.I dont think we touched but it was close call for sure.
That start procedure makes perfect sense now.Hopefully it will be in the OP next time
I thought I braked a bit earlier as to not try and pass you there but I got sucked into your slip stream as I braked and that's when I almost hit you. Sorry about that.
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- France
It's NOT ALLOWED to go in settings page and increase your HP after the feature race.
We will do a HP and PP checks after the feature race to catch people who ran with a not fully broken car.
If you race with a not fully broken car and/or if you go in the settings page between the feature and sprint race. You are disqualified for the Round.
End of discussion. Thanks
We will do a HP and PP checks after the feature race to catch people who ran with a not fully broken car.
If you race with a not fully broken car and/or if you go in the settings page between the feature and sprint race. You are disqualified for the Round.
End of discussion. Thanks
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- toyotsupra
- Jame3sBoy
@Litchi never knew you were in the army lol
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- johnkiller2
This is very important point.
I have raced for nearly a year under an open PP regulation where it actually was allowed to use cars not broken in. I think I have a very good knowledge what gains can be had by using such car as it was part of that very competition. I don't want to go into detiails as I think people would just get confused or worried.
Litchi is dead right. We cannot allow people to go into the settings page between the races.
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- johnkiller2
I thought a bit more about the new "tire temp bug" discovered this week.
Summary and Fix.
All WSGTC rooms should be set at the track for the next race in the schedule. The track should at no point be changed to another track before qualifying or the race. I don't see any need to do it, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Some details:
Tires and grip works very similar in Open and Privat lobby, as long as the track has never been changed to another track in the Private lobby. When changing track in Private lobby, the tire temperature model change to something completely different. If changed once, the only way to get it back to its original stage is for everybody to leave the room.
I think this bug came into play with the new tirewear model. Below is a C&P of a post I wrote in a thread on gtplanet just after the new tire model was introduced, before knowing it only applied to when the track has been changed once (or several) in privat lobby. I do all my testing in private lobby and before now I always refreshed it before the test:
C&P
Racing soft:
They work very different from any tire before and I also think they are slower .
First, they take much longer to heat up and never went white. I got the best laptimes after 3-5 laps with 60-80% thread left. As the tires worn down, lap times didn't fall as much as before. With 30% left I still lapped less than one second slower than on optimum tires. At 20-25% thread, still very drivable, but now the grip was going down, falling off a cliff. The tires lasted for about nine laps. I think the reason why they might be slower is that you never got to hot (white) tires with more than 90% thread left. In fact, they were never as white as before.
end C&P.
This unaided test I think pretty much describes it.
Summary and Fix.
All WSGTC rooms should be set at the track for the next race in the schedule. The track should at no point be changed to another track before qualifying or the race. I don't see any need to do it, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Some details:
Tires and grip works very similar in Open and Privat lobby, as long as the track has never been changed to another track in the Private lobby. When changing track in Private lobby, the tire temperature model change to something completely different. If changed once, the only way to get it back to its original stage is for everybody to leave the room.
I think this bug came into play with the new tirewear model. Below is a C&P of a post I wrote in a thread on gtplanet just after the new tire model was introduced, before knowing it only applied to when the track has been changed once (or several) in privat lobby. I do all my testing in private lobby and before now I always refreshed it before the test:
C&P
Racing soft:
They work very different from any tire before and I also think they are slower .
First, they take much longer to heat up and never went white. I got the best laptimes after 3-5 laps with 60-80% thread left. As the tires worn down, lap times didn't fall as much as before. With 30% left I still lapped less than one second slower than on optimum tires. At 20-25% thread, still very drivable, but now the grip was going down, falling off a cliff. The tires lasted for about nine laps. I think the reason why they might be slower is that you never got to hot (white) tires with more than 90% thread left. In fact, they were never as white as before.
end C&P.
This unaided test I think pretty much describes it.
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- Manchester
- toyotsupra
- Jame3sBoy
What cars are available for GT500 Litchi?
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- Jame3sBoy
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I can confirm what your seeing with the tire testing I did today in the PAL and NTSC rooms.NTSC 2 will still set to Spa and the tires (RM) were still blueish after 3 laps.In PAL 2 the room was set to Fuji F and the tires were .5 sec quicker and lighter colored.
I then went to my own lounge which is set to Trial Mtn rev and switched it to Fuji F and saw the same thing as the NTSC 2 room with blueish tires.
Finally i opened a public lobby/fixed host/high quality (recommended) and had no tire temp issues.I set the track to "F" and ran laps,then switched to GV,and back to "F" and if anything I felt like there might have been more grip after the reset, but the times were within .2.
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- nottingham
- twistedfirework
I will be switching the NTSC default track to Fuji F this evening.
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- johnkiller2
Thanks for taking the time and testing this too !!!
When we in the Euro GT500 league switched from Public to Private lobby we also noticed a very slight difference as you pointed out. But it was very marginal and I have actually forgot in which way it was different.
Good that we have a fix too. Everyhing under control.
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- GTP_PaulMac/paulmac2k9
So I guess it isnt too much to worry about just means without the reset all GT500s will be lined up in the top spots and GT300s in the lower spots (Which will soon change )
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