Has anyone else noticed this?

[Dude?]

(Just thought I might point this out, sorry if it's been brought up before. I searched and didn't find anything about this).

I was browsing through the Used Car showrooms, at the Skylines. I clicked on the Purchase icon and read the stats, to see how much HP was missing, and I noticed that the newer Skylines' HP was higher than it says it should be. According to the the little stat sheet you see first for all of the cars, the max power is 276. But the spec sheet said it had 299 HP (some were 289), for those in the 2nd showroom. In the 1st showroom, those Skylines were around 275, and the 80's models were normal with the usual 30 or so missing points of HP.

 

[socomplayer2]

hmm i never noticed this, i woneder why its like that?

 

[TopHat]

Because they are old and need oil changes. This has been discussed before.

 

[Dude?]

So then if I was to buy one and change its oil, it's HP would go back down to 276 HP? I'm talking about the HP on the spec sheet that pops up when you're about to purchase a car. It reads 299 BHP when on the one you initially see, states that 276 is its max power.

 

[TopHat]

bhp is different than hp just look here.\

Also, those screens don't always tell the truth.

 

[Dude?]

I use the HP in-game, but I didn't know that BHP was different in measure. Sorry, all of those figures were in "HP."

 

[dylansan]

Actually, I think in GT4, many of the Japanese cars are listed at 276, because of some Japanese car contract they had (that's gone now) so all the cars that have 276 on the car buying screen usually have more. Even in the Japanese car dealership, where you can buy them new.

 

[Dude?]

That crossed my mind earlier, but now that I think about it that's probably why. Mods, feel free to lock this thread.

 

[Wolfe]

MINICOOPER120 is correct. The "newer" Skylines have more power than what is listed because that's what the real cars made -- the GT-R was possibly the biggest violator of Japan's gentleman's agreement (not a contract at all) that all cars be limited to 280ps.

The R34 GT-R, for example, produced as much as ~350hp. Combine that with GT4's "all used cars have really bad oil" rule, and it makes sense that some of the cars would have 299hp.


On a side-note, the gentlemen's agreement was officially broken when Honda unveiled a 300hp V6 for its domestic-market Legend (known as the Acura RL in the 'states) in October of 2004.

 

[Luca]

Yep, it's the Gentleman's Agreement thing. The Supra RZ in the used car lot also claims to have 276 hp, but when you get it, it has significantly more than that. I don't remember how much but I'm quite sure it's over 300 hp (and then you can do an oil change and get even more). I know the US version of the Supra had 320 hp.

Some of those Japanese sports cars, especially the Skyline R34 and the Supra Twin Turbo, were really crazy in the power department. They became engineers' playgrounds - capable of so much more than factory power.

 

[topgeardude]

Well a new GT-R M Spec Nur develops 341 hp when it says only 276,and the NSX Type-R develops 295 hp when it says only 276 as well,same with the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo,The Mitsubishe 3000GT,and numerous other mid range sports cars.

 

[Metar]

MINICOOPER120 is correct. The "newer" Skylines have more power than what is listed because that's what the real cars made -- the GT-R was possibly the biggest violator of Japan's gentleman's agreement (not a contract at all) that all cars be limited to 280ps.

The R34 GT-R, for example, produced as much as ~350hp. Combine that with GT4's "all used cars have really bad oil" rule, and it makes sense that some of the cars would have 299hp.


On a side-note, the gentlemen's agreement was officially broken when Honda unveiled a 300hp V6 for its domestic-market Legend (known as the Acura RL in the 'states) in October of 2004.

Correct.

And a little searching would've brought this thread by me, where I asked the same question.