High School

[Aki Ko]

Just found out today that, starting next week, all classes will be longer to make up for the several days we've missed due to snow. By how much, I do not know.

Chances you, you are going to get out by 5 PM.

MONSTERCAT...

 

[Eks]

Oh god, don't say that.

And yus, Monstercat<3

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I fail to give what the teacher asks for and I don't communicate enough with the teacher.

English is easy: it's what you know about a text, and how you know it. As for showing how you know it, I recommend the STEEL model: STATE your position; name a TECHNIQUE being used; provide EVIDENCE from the text of that technique being used; describe its EFFECT on the audience; and LINK it back to your statement.

If you are struggling with language forms and features (techniques), then I strongly recommend you get your hands on a copy of "Edible English" (the author's name escapes me), if you do not have one already. It's practically a bible of just about every conceivable language technique you are likely (and unlikely) to encounter.

Make sure you substantiate everything you say with evidence from the text. There's nothing that frustrates me more than an essay where a student points out something recurring through a text, and then provides a single example of it.

Don't approach your work from a purely narrative standpoint. If you are studying a film, be sure to mention filmic techniques; similarly, if you are studying a poem, then be sure to mention poetic techniques. Likewise, don't just recount the plot of a text. If I set a text, chances are that I already know the plot. I am looking for you to demonstrate the meaning that you get from it, and show me how you got it.

Your assessment tasks should come with a marking criteria. Don't just disregard it. Those criteria are how your assessments will be marked. Sometimes it might be difficult to distinguish what each means - ie, there is a difference between "demonstrates detailed knowledge" and "demonstrates thorough knowledge", even if it is not immediately apparent - but if you get stumped, ask your teacher. Those criteria are set by the faculty, and are written with your outcomes (the things you should be able to do by the end of the course) in mind. If your teacher cannot explain them, go to the head teacher.

 

[Johnny1996]

I absolutely hate people. Particularly, as of right now, very invalid excuses is why. I'm trying to see if I can get a ride to a store, but no one wants to spend their own money when I have $5, $25 if I see something I want bad enough to not leave it behind. The fact that I'm willing to spend the money has been known since Wednesday or Thursday.

Anyway, today was actually a rather cool day for me , but I can't stop making stupid mistakes in my English class, which I'm choosing to keep to myself.

 

[Aki Ko]

I absolutely hate people. Particularly, as of right now, very invalid excuses is why. I'm trying to see if I can get a ride to a store, but no one wants to spend their own money when I have $5, $25 if I see something I want bad enough to not leave it behind. The fact that I'm willing to spend the money has been known since Wednesday or Thursday.

Anyway, today was actually a rather cool day for me , but I can't stop making stupid mistakes in my English class, which I'm choosing to keep to myself.

Unless you offer someone gas money, the chances that someone will give you a ride to the store is low for most people. Just my two cents based on dealing with it.

People make mistakes. It's a given since we're human. Nobody's going to laugh at your mistake... unless they're immature.

 

[Turbotwin01]

English is easy: it's what you know about a text, and how you know it. As for showing how you know it, I recommend the STEEL model: STATE your position; name a TECHNIQUE being used; provide EVIDENCE from the text of that technique being used; describe its EFFECT on the audience; and LINK it back to your statement.

If you are struggling with language forms and features (techniques), then I strongly recommend you get your hands on a copy of "Edible English" (the author's name escapes me), if you do not have one already. It's practically a bible of just about every conceivable language technique you are likely (and unlikely) to encounter.

Make sure you substantiate everything you say with evidence from the text. There's nothing that frustrates me more than an essay where a student points out something recurring through a text, and then provides a single example of it.

Don't approach your work from a purely narrative standpoint. If you are studying a film, be sure to mention filmic techniques; similarly, if you are studying a poem, then be sure to mention poetic techniques. Likewise, don't just recount the plot of a text. If I set a text, chances are that I already know the plot. I am looking for you to demonstrate the meaning that you get from it, and show me how you got it.

Your assessment tasks should come with a marking criteria. Don't just disregard it. Those criteria are how your assessments will be marked. Sometimes it might be difficult to distinguish what each means - ie, there is a difference between "demonstrates detailed knowledge" and "demonstrates thorough knowledge", even if it is not immediately apparent - but if you get stumped, ask your teacher. Those criteria are set by the faculty, and are written with your outcomes (the things you should be able to do by the end of the course) in mind. If your teacher cannot explain them, go to the head teacher.

For my next essay I have to justify wether the book "To Kill a Mockingbird" should be taught/read in schools (I'm saying no because I don't like the book and don't think it should be in schools). The layout is similar, but slightly different. The problem is the film project was actually a film we where we got footage in a group and edited our own versions. And that wasn't exactly easy to throw together when your "actors" are the 2 most drugged up people in the class and the third is a moron who doesn't shut up when he very well should. I'll try implementing those methods in my next essay/write up.

Also, we got a sheet says what our estimated marks were for English. Apparently I'm at a high 60's or low 70's grade (which is probably where I am normally in English,) But, when I hand in the film project it will probably be in the mid 60's or lower. Now I have to get my dad to sign it (which is probably easier then getting my mom to sign it because she would be saying "why can't you be more like soandsos kid and get good grades and volunteer and get scholarships and hand in work on time and bla bla bla bla."

The classes I'm more worried about is math and welding/auto. I'm behind in welding due to me being sick after a vacation and trying to take my time in MIG welding (which costed me dearly in the ARC welding and final project due to having less time for it). My math mark is probably pretty low which I don't want it to be (40 on assignment, 53 on test, 61 on another test I think). Lately I've been thinking of just dropping everything and going to the lower level classes but I feel I'm to smart for the lower level applied classes and too lazy for the higher level academic classes. I guess I just need to really pick up my game.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

I hate this. Its April in Grade 12 and I can't study anymore. Midterms are coming in a week or two and my grades are 5% below what I wanted. I'm just tired of studying 24/7.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

For my next essay I have to justify wether the book "To Kill a Mockingbird" should be taught/read in schools (I'm saying no because I don't like the book and don't think it should be in schools).

I'm afraid "I don't like it" isn't much of an argument. It's not much of a question, but you'll need to do much more than that. TKAMB was chosen as a text for a reason. Start there. There are themes throughout (no, I'm not going to tell you what they are) that are still considered to have value today, hence it being considered literature. So, look at those themes, and ask whether they are still relevant.

[Qutote]Also, we got a sheet says what our estimated marks were for English. Apparently I'm at a high 60's or low 70's grade (which is probably where I am normally in English,) But, when I hand in the film project it will probably be in the mid 60's or lower.[/quote]
No, what you want is a marking criteria. It should be a sheet telling you what you need to get a particular grade for that assignment.

Now I have to get my dad to sign it (which is probably easier then getting my mom to sign it because she would be saying "why can't you be more like soandsos kid and get good grades and volunteer and get scholarships and hand in work on time and bla bla bla bla."

You should be asking those questions. I know, you have to deal with the addicts and the slackers, but trust me when I say that your teachers know about it. There is a lot going on behind closed doors. That will be taken into consideration in your final mark.

 

[Johnny1996]

I found out today that our Bio vocab was due, but half the class had it done. The teacher never tells us when its due, yet he screams and complains at us when we don't do it. I hate to say it, but I have a feeling that one of these days, someone's going to blow up on him.

 

[Downhill Dino]

There are a number of teachers like that. The expectation is to have already done it, if not, then the inevitable poor grade is warranted.

 

[otakukid96]

I found out today that our Bio vocab was due, but half the class had it done. The teacher never tells us when its due, yet he screams and complains at us when we don't do it. I hate to say it, but I have a feeling that one of these days, someone's going to blow up on him.

I know how you feel. I think you should be the one to blow up on him. If you feel that strongly about it, then you need to do something about it.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I think you should be the one to blow up on him. If you feel that strongly about it, then you need to do something about it.

At the risk of sounding sensible, perhaps going to the head teacher is a better way forward.

Reading through this thread, I see a lot of people who seem to be in constant conflict with other students, and a real "us versus them" mentality when it comes to teachers. And while we don't always get along with one another, I have to wonder: how much of this is genuinely *their* fault? And, more importantly, what more can *you* be doing to address the problem?

The fact is that encouraging someone to "blow up on" their teacher over a perceived injustice is not an appropriate way of dealing with the situation. But what disturbs me is that you are so quick to recommend it.

So this teacher doesn't tell you when your homework is due. I can see how that would be a problem. But what is stopping you from raising your hand and asking "Sir, when is this due?"

 

[Johnny1996]

I'm not really the type to blow up on a teacher. If we were talking about my cousin, then that's a different story.

 

[otakukid96]

At the risk of sounding sensible, perhaps going to the head teacher is a better way forward.

Reading through this thread, I see a lot of people who seem to be in constant conflict with other students, and a real "us versus them" mentality when it comes to teachers. And while we don't always get along with one another, I have to wonder: how much of this is genuinely *their* fault? And, more importantly, what more can *you* be doing to address the problem?

The fact is that encouraging someone to "blow up on" their teacher over a perceived injustice is not an appropriate way of dealing with the situation. But what disturbs me is that you are so quick to recommend it.

So this teacher doesn't tell you when your homework is due. I can see how that would be a problem. But what is stopping you from raising your hand and asking "Sir, when is this due?"

Only reason I was so quick about it is that I've experienced similar situations before, and actually instigating something was often the only way to get something to happen about it. Teachers have to realize that students can't read minds, and if we aren't told anything about something, we are going to get upset. And as for a student raising their hand, it's sort of the bystander effect in a way. Everyone expects another person to do it, but aren't going to do it themselves.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Teachers have to realize that students can't read minds, and if we aren't told anything about something, we are going to get upset.

And you need to realise that we can't read minds, either. If you think something might be relevant, ask.

 

[Turbotwin01]

I'm afraid "I don't like it" isn't much of an argument.

All my points are more along the lines of TKAMB shouldn't be taught because it's inaccurately interpreted as a 100% historically accurate text and so forth. My argument is that it shouldn't be taught. I don't like it, but I'm not using that as an argument. It's kind of just a drive thing. I feel more driven to throw energy and effort into arguing against something I don't like much at all then having an argument I don't actually myself believe in. I'm not like the kids who argue "It's stupid because it's stupid."

You should be asking those questions. I know, you have to deal with the addicts and the slackers, but trust me when I say that your teachers know about it. There is a lot going on behind closed doors. That will be taken into consideration in your final mark.

Your probably right. I'll try and push forward more, after all mid-terms are coming and stuff needs done.

 

[otakukid96]

So, for those of you who don't know, my school has a uniform, although it is a bit half-baked. We can wear a polo shirt of navy blue, red, black, or white, along with khaki pants or shorts, with a slight relaxation on every Friday, which is an approved school t-shirt. Every first Friday of each month, we can have what is called a 'dress down day' which allows us to not wear our uniform and we can wear clothes that non-uniform schools can wear within reason. Last week, we had it taken away from us for lack of proper behavior and constant breaking of rules. We had a chance to get it back this week, but it was not given to us, so we must wear follow normal Friday dress code tomorrow. I have not broken any rules or be disrespectful at all, and I know tons of students who have done the same as me.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is, why are the good students being punished for the actions of others? I'm thinking of protesting this by just dressing down tomorrow and telling the staff exactly how I feel about the situation. I feel confident that I won't get in too much trouble since the staff know me and are willing to work with me to fix some problems I'm having, but I'm concerned that they won't show me any mercy and give me a full punishment. What do you all think of this situation?

 

[Aki Ko]

So, for those of you who don't know, my school has a uniform, although it is a bit half-baked. We can wear a polo shirt of navy blue, red, black, or white, along with khaki pants or shorts, with a slight relaxation on every Friday, which is an approved school t-shirt. Every first Friday of each month, we can have what is called a 'dress down day' which allows us to not wear our uniform and we can wear clothes that non-uniform schools can wear within reason. Last week, we had it taken away from us for lack of proper behavior and constant breaking of rules. We had a chance to get it back this week, but it was not given to us, so we must wear follow normal Friday dress code tomorrow. I have not broken any rules or be disrespectful at all, and I know tons of students who have done the same as me.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is, why are the good students being punished for the actions of others? I'm thinking of protesting this by just dressing down tomorrow and telling the staff exactly how I feel about the situation. I feel confident that I won't get in too much trouble since the staff know me and are willing to work with me to fix some problems I'm having, but I'm concerned that they won't show me any mercy and give me a full punishment. What do you all think of this situation?

They won't give you a full punishment because having a complaint isn't a technically worthy of punishment.

And why do good students get punished for the actions of others? Because "it's fair treatment," but it still not fair to the do-gooders. I deal with this in my first period class where everyone else except my table, which contains three females, always get loud so the teacher always revert to no talking for everybody, including my table. You can try to protest all you want, but I hardly doubt they will listen as adults aren't really for listening to students (mostly because of status role from staff to student). Thankfully, my school doesn't have a school uniform... mostly because we're broke. From my point of view, why is school standard uniforms enforced? It limits the freedom of expression for clothing in which you are most comfortable with. I don't want to have to wear a specific type of clothing especially when as soon we the students leave school for good, they're forced to wear work specific clothing due to stupid social standards, so at least let us have a freedom of clothing for some time.

 

[otakukid96]

They won't give you a full punishment because having a complaint isn't a technically worthy of punishment.

And why do good students get punished for the actions of others? Because "it's fair treatment," but it still not fair to the do-gooders. I deal with this in my first period class where everyone else except my table, which contains three females, always get loud so the teacher always revert to no talking for everybody, including my table. You can try to protest all you want, but I hardly doubt they will listen as adults aren't really for listening to students (mostly because of status role from staff to student). Thankfully, my school doesn't have a school uniform... mostly because we're broke. From my point of view, why is school standard uniforms enforced? It limits the freedom of expression for clothing in which you are most comfortable with. I don't want to have to wear a specific type of clothing especially when as soon we the students leave school for good, they're forced to wear work specific clothing due to stupid social standards, so at least let us have a freedom of clothing for some time.

I believe the reason we have a uniform is because it's a charter school. We don't have to abide to the same rules as public schools in the county, so I guess that's why they decided that all grades, K-12, must wear uniforms. I've also heard that it's a college prep school, which it most definitely is not, and that we also follow the paideia principle, which I have no idea what that is. I think the reason we have so many trouble students, the ratio of good to bad is skewed more towards bad, is because we're seen as a 'last resort' school of sorts, and it doesn't help that the middle school down the street is possibly the most ghetto a school can get. I've also heard that we don't turn students down because the way to select incoming students is a lottery. Oh, and about the whole punishment thing, I sometimes joke that a trouble student will beat up another student and get no punishment whereas a student like me will accidentally have his shirt untucked and almost get expelled.

 

[nitrorocks]

I believe the reason we have a uniform is because it's a charter school. We don't have to abide to the same rules as public schools in the county, so I guess that's why they decided that all grades, K-12, must wear uniforms. I've also heard that it's a college prep school, which it most definitely is not, and that we also follow the paideia principle, which I have no idea what that is. I think the reason we have so many trouble students, the ratio of good to bad is skewed more towards bad, is because we're seen as a 'last resort' school of sorts, and it doesn't help that the middle school down the street is possibly the most ghetto a school can get. I've also heard that we don't turn students down because the way to select incoming students is a lottery. Oh, and about the whole punishment thing, I sometimes joke that a trouble student will beat up another student and get no punishment whereas a student like me will accidentally have his shirt untucked and almost get expelled.

Classic government logic. I had two late starts this week because I passed the exams that the Sophomores are currently taking, and one day, school started at 11:45 a.m.....and no one knew what time to go. Only one teacher spoke about it, and she said 9:45 which was two hours early. Everyone that runs the school has no idea what is happening. And I also don't understand why they even make us go to school for two hours...could be an easy day off for those of us who passed.

 

[Ameer67]

Oh, and about the whole punishment thing, I sometimes joke that a trouble student will beat up another student and get no punishment whereas a student like me will accidentally have his shirt untucked and almost get expelled.

That's messed up.

 

[otakukid96]

That's messed up.

Yeah it is. Thankfully, I'm a senior so come June 13th, which I really don't like it being that date as well as being a WEEK AFTER GRADUATION, I never have to go there again, but I still will occasionally to visit the anime club people. And if you think that's messed up, this next bit is even more so. They may end up cancelling prom this year due to lack of participation. 100 tickets need to be sold by April 22th I believe, and only a quarter of that amount has been sold. They've even had to expand it from just 11th and 12th grade to the entire high school to try to get enough money to hold the event, which also has stuff I can criticize. This year, it is being held at RDU airport. Years prior, it was held at Duke Gardens. I have no idea what caused them to think that was a good idea.

 

[Johnny1996]

How much are the prom tickets? The ticket price might have something to do with it. My school's charging $55 each, and are single tickets only. You can't buy multiple at a time either.

 

[Aki Ko]

How much are the prom tickets? The ticket price might have something to do with it. My school's charging $55 each, and are single tickets only. You can't buy multiple at a time either.

At my school, it's $40 and are single tickets only. This is why I will never go to prom. You spend so much money... for one night which is just basically a school held party.

 

[Slash]

Think it was like $36 for one person here.

 

[otakukid96]

How much are the prom tickets? The ticket price might have something to do with it. My school's charging $55 each, and are single tickets only. You can't buy multiple at a time either.

$50 here.

 

[Johnny1996]

Between everyone's school's ticket price, ours is the highest. No wonder the girls have said they want a petition to bring the price down. I could care less, since I have no one to go with at this time, and I probably won't.

 

[Gerarghini]

My school is giving out a pair of prom tickets for free on Instagram or whatever.

Anyways, has anyone here read 1984. In my honest opinion, the book was mediocre up until part 3 where it failed with the ending. Maybe is just that I was forced to read that book that caused a bit of that hate (and we have to do a project no less ) maybe not.

And does it make sense that my English teacher has the audacity to call us procrastinators when we watched a movie for 40 minutes when she predicted 20 and had only 15 minutes to work?

 

[FoRiZon]

Anyone finished the final exam (For seniors usually 12th years)? I just finished it.I can breathe now. I live in Indonesia btw.

 

[Akmuq]

Anyone finished the final exam (For seniors usually 12th years)? I just finished it.I can breathe now. I live in Indonesia btw.

Are you finished school forever? If so well done.

I've 4 weeks left of school. 2 and a half weeks off. Just over a week of exams and then, on July 12th, the same day as the world cup starts (), I'm done with school forever and (hopefully) into the big bad world of university come September.