How do you guys get gold in the Licences

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A 13,14,15,16 are giving me a bit of trouble atm. as well as the viper 1000m and Mini pace car lap in B.

however Im going good in IB with 12gold from 12.

Some tests are hard and frustrating but most arnt that bad. Ive spent about 4 hours so far.

You guys who get all golds should join the wrs.
 
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DRT2RM
I remember that test -- that one took me a while. Those first connecting S turns and the last turn onto the back straight where you need to get a good exit speed are key. Even though I know Suzuka really well, it takes a while to get use to the car and it's handling/gearing. Good luck man! :D

Finally got it. After working on it for hours last night, tonight I sat down and about my 3rd try I beat it by 0.5 sec. My ghost is actually inside the demo car almost the whole time.
 
AE86Racer
Does anyone know how to get gold or silver on the License IA test with the Nürburgring Nordschleife track with the Benz 190E car? I keep getting 2 seconds over bronze and thats when the pace car ends as well. Does the pace car move faster if i keep pressuring it?

The faster you go, the faster the pace car goes. There are a couple corners where the pace car goes pretty slow and you will end up almost even with it (that is, you might have to actually dodge the pace car going into a corner to avoid ramming it and failing). It's important not to touch the brakes in a few of those big curvy stretches where you don't have to (although you will have to let off the gas for a second and just draft the pace car in the middle of the big straight). If you look at the demo I think it gets gold by about 8.5 sec. You really just have to be consistant. More than any other test, this one is only about learning the track. You don't have to push every corner to get gold. Just pretend you're practicing for S-16 and don't worry about it. You'll get gold before too long. It just takes time to remember the corners.
 
Small_Fryz
A 13,14,15,16 are giving me a bit of trouble atm. as well as the viper 1000m and Mini pace car lap in B.

however Im going good in IB with 12gold from 12.

Some tests are hard and frustrating but most arnt that bad. Ive spent about 4 hours so far.

You guys who get all golds should join the wrs.

In the Viper 1000m I think you brake right on the 700m mark (maybe it was the 800?). The hard part is the launch. Watch how the demo does it. You need to use partial throttle in 1st gear. That one took me a lot longer than it should have, too.
 
thanks for the tip. Gonna try it now
Just got all gold on IB and i also golded B-5 (the mini pace lap one).

EDIT!!

yay i got it 27.599
 
some people just don't have the ability to follow the line or have a good feel of their car. when my friend plays, i can tell he doesn't recognize when his car is under/oversteering. that and his lines are sloppy.

apex, apex, apex.

for me, i tend to get stuck in ruts, so if i try different things (braking a little later, softer, etc), i usually get out of the rut. i'm averaging about 5-10 attempts to get gold on the tests. i've gotten gold within 1 or 2 tries on about 3 tests, and i got stuck in a bad rut on the skyline trial mountain A test, so that consumed about 45 mins just for that single test.

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i only got the game a few days ago, so i only have my gold A and B lisences so far
 
silver is fairly easy to get... the golds i have were either flukes, or if i got a silver close to a gold time then i would keep trying until i got it. but getting used to the physics in GT4 is another challenge on its own...

In the Viper 1000m I think you brake right on the 700m mark (maybe it was the 800?). The hard part is the launch. Watch how the demo does it. You need to use partial throttle in 1st gear. That one took me a lot longer than it should have, too.

its the 800m mark :)
 
AE86Racer
Does anyone know how to get gold or silver on the License IA test with the Nürburgring Nordschleife track with the Benz 190E car? I keep getting 2 seconds over bronze and thats when the pace car ends as well. Does the pace car move faster if i keep pressuring it?

To add to what BadBatsu said (the pace car will go faster if you put pressure on it), you can actually bump draft it on the long, flat out stretch at the end. I did that and probably gained a second or so on my time. Whatever it takes. :sly:
 
B-5 is still giving me headaches (underpowered FF car--go figure). But I polished off the A, and that Skyline they give you is wicked fast! The A-16 graduation test just nailed home the truth that it's all about knowing your track and car. When I golded A-16, I was losing .2-.3 to my own ghost on the first section, but I was burning it up through the esses and nailed the apexes on the last 2 turns. Except the FF tests (since I'm not a FF guy), the tests that take me the longest are invariably on the new tracks. Which I guess explains why B-5 is taking me SO long (new track AND FF! SHOOT ME NOW!).

Another thing that has seemed to help me is breaking it up (not that I take days off on purpose). With a new baby, I don't get more than an hour of continuous play very often, and when I go back to the tracks I struggle with, I usually smash my best previous time within a few tries. A lot of it too is just internalizing the feel of each new car. The better you get to know your car, the closer to the edge you can push it. Loose is fast and on the edge of out-of-control! ;)
 
To gold the nurb with the boring merc 190 ( there's a faster one on the special licences ) you should be pushing the pace car, and i do mean PUSHING, in three places on the circuit, the first is after the first jump, where you manage to hang on to the car and you continue to accelerate for a good few corners over some blind crests, the second place is on the back straights, after a hard right that creeps up on you as you take it, (it featured in one of the earlier tests too) where you can hold the car flat for a while again, you should be up to fifth and pushing the pace car pretty soon after the corner, and the third and final place is the long straight, where you should be catching the car very soon after the over-the-hill right as you go down the straight and actually pushing him physically faster as you complete the lap.

My time was untidy and i lost it in a few places, but i managed an 8'52. i think. Either way i golded it, as i have every license test except the 15 i have remaining on the special license.

I just got into the game instead of the tests after i golded the first four licenses.

Keep trying!
 
skicrush
B-5 is still giving me headaches (underpowered FF car--go figure).... Which I guess explains why B-5 is taking me SO long (new track AND FF! SHOOT ME NOW!).

That one was pretty hard for me as well. The two most important corners are the first and the tight hairpin. On the first corner, you have to maintain the small amout of speed that you do have. This was the hardest thing for me to figure out. I didn't watch the demo run on it, so I can't compare my run to that for you. On the hairpin, I actually hit and almost past the pacecar but luckily it sped up right at the last second. If you have a max drive, I could email you my replay of it.
 
Any hints for IB-15, Citta Di Aria? The Demo time is only 0.018s under the gold time! I'm about 1.2s out from gold at the moment. Have golded everything up to this point so far including the coffee breaks, so I'm not about to quit!
Won't start racing until I have all gold licences either :(

So far as someone at the beginning of this thread commented about needing a DF or DFP to gold GT3 licences, that's not true. I've done them all with a DS2 D-pad using both auto and manual transmission, so I know it can be done easily.
 
oryan_dunn
That one was pretty hard for me as well. The two most important corners are the first and the tight hairpin. On the first corner, you have to maintain the small amout of speed that you do have. This was the hardest thing for me to figure out. I didn't watch the demo run on it, so I can't compare my run to that for you. On the hairpin, I actually hit and almost past the pacecar but luckily it sped up right at the last second. If you have a max drive, I could email you my replay of it.

Here's TML's walkthrough from http://www.goldjunkies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=275:

B5 - Tsukuba Circuit, Full Pace Lap; Mini One '02

Before even starting this test, you should know this: you never have to use 1st gear, aside from the initial standing start. Launch between 5000 and 6000 RPM. Shift into 2nd at 40 mph, brake slightly entering turn, but coast for most of it, the car seems to behave better. Get back on full throttle (still in 2nd gear) at about 40 mph, steering out smoothly. Stay close or even on the rumbles through the quick ess turn. I recommend shifting into 3rd at about 68 mph (short of max revs.) This is because leaving it in second gear you will hit the rev limiter causing you to slow down.

Brake as late as possible heading into the hairpin, braking to about 43-44 mph, and coasting down to about 37 mph. Get back on full throttle as soon as possible (it is actually a lot sooner that you think), and try to stay as close to, without touching, that inside rumble strip on apex. Try to get over to the left side as quickly as possible after exit. This is required in order to take the quick right turn coming up at full throttle. Getting the turn-in angle correct is a little bit tricky, but after a couple of tries you should get it. Speed should drop no less than 55 mph, and if you get smooth at it you will stay at 57 mph. Once again, follow the pace car nice and smoothly through the double left turns. Shift into 3rd at 71 mph.

Just like the first turn, use coasting as much or more than braking to slow the car. Initially, brake down to about 48-52 mph, then coast down to about 40 before getting back on full throttle. As usual, try to make steering out of the turn as smooth as possible. Shift into 3rd at 71 mph. Follow as closely as you can the line of the Skyline into the final turn, however instead of braking, start coasting a fraction of a second before turning in. Coast down to about 66 mph, staying in 3rd gear, while maintaining as smooth a line as possible. Get back on full throttle at 66 mph, maintaining that smooth line. You should exit the turn just short of running onto the rumble strip. (It will slow you down. The Mini is not powerful enough to overcome the bumpiness.) If you have done this correctly, you will cross the finish line at 71-72 mph.
 
i hated the neurenburg (sp?) test in international A, it was the most frustrating thing ever, i'd get like 10.043 and times like that, than i wouldn't be so cautious, and i'd slide off the track like 3 feet after 8 minutes of it, it is hell.

anyway, i can never get golds, i have a few silver, but i haven't spent to much time trying to get golds
 
Smallhorses
Any hints for IB-15, Citta Di Aria? The Demo time is only 0.018s under the gold time! I'm about 1.2s out from gold at the moment. Have golded everything up to this point so far including the coffee breaks, so I'm not about to quit!
Won't start racing until I have all gold licences either :(

So far as someone at the beginning of this thread commented about needing a DF or DFP to gold GT3 licences, that's not true. I've done them all with a DS2 D-pad using both auto and manual transmission, so I know it can be done easily.

The only one I've done where I wished I had a DFP was IA16, the grad test at Sarthe in the Nissan monster R92CP Race Car '92. Re IA15, I gained all the time I needed to get gold at the very end. You go up the hill in 3rd then take that fast left/right combo in 2nd, keeping your revs and power to the wheels up. I went from not being able to gold the test to getting almost a full second under it.
 
Thanks oryan_dunn and kidA--It drives me nuts that I have gold on A but B-5 is still giving me trouble. It looks like most of what I'm doing is right--now I just need to put it all together at the same time.
 
BadBatsuMaru
In the Viper 1000m I think you brake right on the 700m mark (maybe it was the 800?). The hard part is the launch. Watch how the demo does it. You need to use partial throttle in 1st gear. That one took me a lot longer than it should have, too.
I concur. You must control wheelspin on the Viper in first gear. And then at the end, apply parking brake AND regular brake early and your back tire will be either 1" inside or 1" outside the area.
 
feldon23
I concur. You must control wheelspin on the Viper in first gear. And then at the end, apply parking brake AND regular brake early and your back tire will be either 1" inside or 1" outside the area.

Are you sure that applying both brakes actually makes any difference over just using the regular brake? I'm just asking because I've easily gotten well under the gold times on all of the braking tests without using the "hand brake", plus my own personal experience from working on the brakes of my various cars leads me to believe that in real life, applying both won't do much of anything for you except confuse the ABS system.
 
jbrennen
Yeah, you were at the Atlanta ProSolo last year. Where we both got whooped by that Scirocco that I mentioned a few posts ago (and that I ended up driving at the Finale in September). Who says that FWD is inferior??? Of course, it didn't hurt that he was able to borrow a set of Dirt Stocker tires which were ideal for the wet conditions...

Yeah, I remember that. Funny thing is the VW Scirocco driver's previous autocross car was a G-stock Impreza 2.5RS...:lol: He's a great guy and he can definitely drive!
 
BadBatsuMaru
Has anybody ever tied the gold/silver/bronze time in GT4? I remember (and I forget if it was GT2 or GT3) one time I tied the gold time exactly and it gave me silver.

I haven't actually tied a gold time yet in GT4, but I tied a silver time on one test and got silver for it, so that's promising.
 
I know whenever you tie at a split (with your own ghost or 2nd place) it shows up -0.00 in blue, not red, so I'd guess it would give it to you.
 
I have tied the gold time on IB-7, the Z4 cone slalom without driver aids. Gold time is 17.700, and I hit it right on the nail. It does give you gold for tying the time.
 
Smallhorses
Any hints for IB-15, Citta Di Aria? The Demo time is only 0.018s under the gold time! I'm about 1.2s out from gold at the moment. Have golded everything up to this point so far including the coffee breaks, so I'm not about to quit!

That little car can be annoying. Like Kida said, the most important thing is coming out of that final hairpin fast, because if your RPM is too low as you start going uphill, that little car just gets completely bogged down and you lose massive amounts of time. A manual transmission is often a little faster, but here it really doesn't matter, because if the auto downshifts then you didn't have a good line through the last section anyway and were going too slow. In that whole last uphill section, you only have to let off the gas for a split second for the first left then barely tap the brake for the second one.

Make sure you reduce wheelspin on the launch and use partial throttle in 1st gear. On that first hairpin, I stayed much more inside and slowed down sooner, really hugging the right, and got a better exit speed than the demo. You should be braking pretty late going into the narrow area at around 1:00. It doesn't really hurt you to rub the right wall a little. Use partial throttle and some smooth right-left-right and you can take the series of 90-degree turns faster than the demo.

This one can be a little frustrating since you don't have your ghost; otherwise you would just abort as soon as you came out of that last turn and start your next run when your ghost was beating you up the hill.

Oddly enough, S-2 is almost the exact same test as IA-15, except S-2 is much easier. I beat S-2 by 0.8 sec in about 10 min.
 
Hey y'all:

I'll weigh in with my vote of mediocrity. :D I've been playing GT since '98, and I'm good enough that I have achieved Golds in SOME of the GT3 tests; however, GT4 is really introducing so many new elements that in the interest of solid progress over frustration, I just said 'eck, to hell with it' early on, and am going with Bronzes.

Hehe - hey: I'm at S-3 right now and haven't gotten stuck on any one yet! 👍

For some people, just passing them is enough. I do try and not be hard on myself (*recommended for others*). I remember that first game. Whew. GT1. Man. Took me LOTS of learning just to pass them.
 
BadBatsuMaru
That little car can be annoying. Like Kida said, the most important thing is coming out of that final hairpin fast, because if your RPM is too low as you start going uphill, that little car just gets completely bogged down and you lose massive amounts of time. A manual transmission is often a little faster, but here it really doesn't matter, because if the auto downshifts then you didn't have a good line through the last section anyway and were going too slow. In that whole last uphill section, you only have to let off the gas for a split second for the first left then barely tap the brake for the second one.

Thanks for the tips, now have gold, 2'10.538. The last hairpin exit did make a huge difference, was 0.3s behind the demo time at T1, and still finished ~0.5s ahead of him!
I didn't find the car annoying, kinda like the old classics myself, and I'd sure as hell take an Italian '65 for its handling, if a little underpowered chassis, than a corresponding "**** of a shovel" in a straightline, but cannot take bends 'cos it weighs 3 tons and has marshmallows for suspension yank-tank from the same era!
 

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