How do you WRS ?

[Metar]

Update of WRS-ing: I now do look at the speedo. At El Capitan this week, I looked at the speedo when coming out of a corner. I knew that the 2nd turn before T1 had to be taken with atleast 120KM/h, optimally more. And that the exit-speed on that hairpin before the sweeper before the corkscrew before T2 should be ~110KM/h, at third gear optimally.

 

[ROB 256R]

For me it's:

• View: Bumper Cam. I occasionally use the trailing cam when the car is stupid low (Ford GT40's) and the track has lots of blind corners.
• Speed: I only check the speed as i cross the start/finish line at the start of a hot lap to check i've got the best possible start to my lap. If i've not its restart time.
• Braking Points: Seat of the pants mainly. Sometimes I use marks on the track like at New York but mainly just whenever i feel the time is right. I probably subconsciously use reference points but i don't look at them directly.
• Combo Approach: Nothing methodical. Just try and go fast. No more than 2 hours at a time.

 

[E30 Evo Sport]

ViewMostly heli cam. I'm trying out the bumper cam now in week 72 since I believe I might be faster in the NSX road car.
SpeedI check it at apexes and gear shifts.
Braking Pts.They are sometimes improvised each lap, like the corner before the bridge in wrs 71. Experimented with trail braking and brake-go combos. Usually I have a general idea of where they are. Braking is probably the most improvable part of my driving.
ApproachOn the limit from the start. Unless I dont know the tracks. Even then I improvise.

Also, did someone mention that you can turn ghost off? I would really like it if you could.

 

[Casio]

Also, did someone mention that you can turn ghost off? I would really like it if you could.

By default it's UP. It helps a lot because the ghost gives you the ****s.

 

[ßen]

• View: Usually the bumper-cam, although changing to it from 8 years of Gran Turismo (Got GT1 in 1997 ) for GT4 in 2005 was somewhat difficult. I always used to use the trailing-cam. Holl01 (Dan) got me into that habit.
• Speed: Check speed when changing gear through habit, as I always have, and when going through a corner I now look to see my speed. Another thing Dan advised me on .
• Braking Points: Hmmm. This is a tricky one. Sometimes, if the car and tracks are not ones that I am used to, I'll go careering into the bends like ther's no tomorrow. Sccrrrrreeeeeeech. Crash. Although I normally can just sort of judge. Once again, thanks Dan.
• Combo Approach: All-for-it. Maximum attck mode throughout. I spend maybe a couple of hours or so on it in one evening, more if possible. Sometimes though if I love the combo, I'll spend 3 hours ore more on it!

Nice thread Casio, interesting to read through.

 

[Super T]

How do you WRS?

For week 72 I'll mostly be in my superhero cape and thong.

 

[steven]

Also, did someone mention that you can turn ghost off? I would really like it if you could.

dear cristian from toronto,
just push the left up button and the ghost dis- or reappears.
understand your frust cos it can really distract if its too close.
on the other hand, if its a bit to the back (left button down) or really ahead its nice to leave it on, to me anyways.

 

[Tedehur]

I always switch it off, but I'm only using 'up' on the D-pad, never 'down'.

 

[steven]

'down', cyril, is for looking behind you.
but then again i guess you don't know that cos you only have to look ahead to see who passed you not who you passed.
LOL
(said he who never ever wins races ...)

 

[Tedehur]

Exactly. The only thing I could see behind my car is a cloud of dust.

 

[steven]

... a cloud of dust from six cars: the five that overtook you and your one.

 

[STLbarcelona5]

With my extensive Gran Turismo experience... since January... this is what I do.

• View: Always bumper cam. Unless I'm in a super fast car and need to see over crests & such, then I use the roof cam.
• Speed: Don't pay attention to at all when I'm learning the combo. Then once I get a hang of it and learn where I can push it, I just try to go faster in like 5mph intervals until I've reached the limit.
• Braking: Depends on the track. On dedicated tracks that have markers, I usually pick a point once I've done a few laps. But in the beginning, and with tracks that don't have many distinctive features, I just see how many blinks of the brake light I can go.
• Combo Approach: I'm always flat out. Sometimes I go hours trying to get the beginning perfect, and hardly ever go around the whole time. So in a whole week, I'll maybe put in like 10 laps if it's a track with gravel traps & such. Because if I go off, I restart immediately. I remember doing S16 one night, spent 3 hours ONLY going to the first 4 sectors, and never got past the rest.

And regarding ghosts & such. I usually leave it on in the beginning to see how quick my pace across the start line is. But then once it's in my face I switch it off. So normally it's on, but only if there's a good distance apart so that it doesn't disctract me. But on long straights, I find that it's the only thing that I watch..

 

[shockwaveracing]

View: Behind the car, always have and always will
Speedo: Corner entry/exit speed noted, as well as the speed at s/f line
Braking Point: Find the absolute limit, shadows on the track or markers on the side of track are what i go off, try and maximise corner speed, and minimise tyre squeal
Combo Approach: Approach it like Ayrton Senna would. Find the limit and proceed to step over the limit, often end up off of the track in the first few laps. Once i can be smooth and consistent, then i will chase down the tenths of a second required. Happen to lose interest quite quickly so if i don't like the combo i may only do 15-20 laps. If i enjoy it then i will put more time into it. Generally do my best work in 30 minute blocks of racing, after that i tend to fall off the boil and get slower. Ghost gets used on 90% of combos done (although when you start trying to slipstream your ghost for the extra couple of tenths you are looking for you know you need to stop racing for a while... )

 

[Super T]

.....Ghost gets used on 90% of combos done (although when you start trying to slipstream your ghost for the extra couple of tenths you are looking for you know you need to stop racing for a while... )

That's not just me then.

 

[STLbarcelona5]

That's not just me then.

Count me in on that one too. We should have a poll for that...

 

[Casio]

If you're far enough behind your ghost to have the chance to slipstream it, chances are you're on a slow lap anyway!

I usually restart if I'm more then a car length behind my best ghost, unless I made a massive mistake somewhere near the end.

 

[Metar]

If you're far enough behind your ghost to have the chance to slipstream it, chances are you're on a slow lap anyway!

I usually restart if I'm more then a car length behind my best ghost, unless I made a massive mistake somewhere near the end.

Or, you're chasing Holl01s ghost.

Or you're on a combo where corners have potential that the ghost didn't use.

 

[Super T]

SuperT is now racing with manual gears

 

[Metar]

SuperT is now racing with manual gears

And SuperT's made a good decision 👍

I only Rally in auto now, still haven't figured out when to shift when redlining all the time.

 

[dylansan]

View:Bumper cam, I used to only use out-of-car view, but I had trouble judging distances and seeing what was in front of me.
Speed:I rarely look at it, sometimes just to judge when to break, but really that's it.
Braking points:I need to do many laps before I judge a Braking Point, because oncde I find one, I feel like any other braking point is slower. Sometimes I have driven so long I can judge braking points by how far away the turn is, and get it the same almost any lap.
Combo approach:Usually really calm, not to interested in going as fast as possible, but once I learn the car, I try my absolute best, hours at a time, to beat the times I have set to accomplish, based on other people's times. Once I can beat it, I just concentrate on finding even better lines, and beating my ghost, therefore giving me even better times.

I actually think my methods are pretty strange, but they definitely work for me, and now that I have perfected my methods, GT4 seems 50 times more fun. (along with joining WRS, which helped me perfect my skills)

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

If you're far enough behind your ghost to have the chance to slipstream it, chances are you're on a slow lap anyway!

I usually restart if I'm more then a car length behind my best ghost, unless I made a massive mistake somewhere near the end.

hey Casio, instead of restarting you must give this a try

try tiny adjustments to what your normally doing when your close enough to your ghost ~ and this is when you can see if theres time to be gained or not

earlier on in my WRS this is how i would reach my limit by using my own ghost

sometimes i would even let it go ahead just to see different lines i could take

 

[Dr_Watson]

hey Casio, instead of restarting you must give this a try

try tiny adjustments to what your normally doing when your close enough to your ghost ~ and this is when you can see if theres time to be gained or not

earlier on in my WRS this is how i would reach my limit by using my own ghost

sometimes i would even let it go ahead just to see different lines i could take

i do that all the time... especially if i want to know of using a higher gear, late braking, sacrificial corners, etc... is beneficial.

also on that comment, i'm not sure how some of you guys can be so frantic with the resets.
especially in arcade races where wear and tear on the car or tuning are not a factor... especailly considering in most situations you're spending almost as much time in loading screens as you would be just finishing the lap... except the menus are purely "wasted time". since you're not getting any practice watching that white clock turn.

 

[steven]

If you're far enough behind your ghost to have the chance to slipstream it, chances are you're on a slow lap anyway!

can someone send a doctor to australia please? if someone gets to think he can slipstream his ghost, it's time to call in the troops.
i always thought brad was a sane guy, but now i don't know anymore ...

 

[Metar]

can someone send a doctor to australia please? if someone gets to think he can slipstream his ghost, it's time to call in the troops.
i always thought brad was a sane guy, but now i don't know anymore ...

He's the sane guy around. It's Darren (in his superhero cape and thong ), Shockwaveracing, STLBarcelona and me who slipstream the ghosts.

I actually do that simply because on a straight, the best line is pretty simple to figure out, so the ghost mostly takes the same one from the start. But it's got a placebo effect...

 

[steven]

this is a message some people might like to read
i've just ordered my maxdrive. it really helped to convince me that everybody was telling me how good it would be for my driving lines etc.
... not that cyril would ever need me to submit a replay or something. but then again, if the learning effect is as big as you all have been telling me, maybe he will once
what i look most forward to is to see alien replays with (for me) impossible laptimes.

👍

ps also posted in wrs 76 'cos i assume people like to read this.

 

[Tedehur]

That's good news Steven 👍
Your replays will be welcome even if they are not requested, as are replays from anybody else.
Some people is glad

 

[JosX]

• View: I have used the rear view since my 1st GT1 race way back in the 90's I find it easier to judge where the rest of the car is because you can see the whole car.
  
• Speed: I look at the speed quite often to judge when to brake & how well I'm doing.
  
• Braking Points: I just brake when I feel I need to really. Every now & then there's a track I'll set some braking points for.
  
• Combo Approach: As I haven't participated in the WRS yet I don't really know but I'd guess I'll be full on.

 

[CRXnut]

Wow this is great thread.

View - Roof cam (might switch to bumper after seeing that most aliens use it)
Speed - yes I watch it at corner exit
Braking - after running few laps I just know how far before the turn I have to start braking. Don't usually look for markers.
Combo aproach - flat out first and slowing down until I can stay on the track (Ari Vatanen used to do this in real life !!!)
Ghost - keep switching it on and off

 

[MisterWeary]

flat out first and slowing down until I can stay on the track (Ari Vatanen used to do this in real life !!!)

In real life you'd think doing that would result in a few accidents

 

[CRXnut]

He was a rally driver which makes it even more scary :-)