How has your time been with the GT Sport Beta?

[Famine]

I think mods should not shut up other peoples opinions at all

No moderator has tried to shut your opinion up. If they had, it would no longer be seen.

Your opinion has been challenged by a member. For some reason, rather than bringing forward the information you have to support your opinion, you've chosen to play the 'mods trying to shut me up' card because the member is also a moderator, which is a pretty weak card for the aforementioned reason.

If you have an opinion strong enough that you are comfortable to express it, it shouldn't be too hard to demonstrate the information you used to create that opinion when it's challenged. If you don't have that information, perhaps you should reassess your opinion. I don't know what the opinion you're expressing is, nor why it's being challenged. I'm just interested in the claim that the staff are out to shut you up, instead of you addressing the challenge. Because it's absolute nonsense.

 

[Samus]

Sorry, I can't resist.

"I'm biased because of the product name and others are biased because of the product..." Oh yeah, right... lol. You are so funny.

Hmmm

Because of people obsessed with graphics, we'll end up getting games with amazing graphics and no content. Look at Forza 5. Rubbish.
Highly detailed graphics take SO much time and effort.
Far less content = far less gameplay possibilities and far less game life.

Can I ask why you're not calling GT Sport rubbish? Because that is EXACTLY what PD have done, to a tee.

If that isn't bias to the product name I don't know what it is.

Yep, its the real driving simulator, not the real car interior modeling simulator. My point is you an still drive the cars without the 🤬 interior which is completely useless for the game until anyone here proves me wrong.
You know, car interiors take long to model, thats the problem. I'd rather have 500 cars without interior, than 150 with interior.

I mean I've searched, but I can't seem to find the posts where you're absolutely up in arms about GTS having only 150 cars. Pretty funny you picked that number exactly.

 

[NixxxoN]

If that was the case, you would have been banned some time ago, yet here you are still expressing your opinions.

Banned why? No need to ban to do so.

This is not the shake I was referring to, I meant the left and right movement when turning, and the close up when braking, and going away when accelerating

 

[NixxxoN]

Sorry, I can't resist.



Hmmm



Can I ask why you're not calling GT Sport rubbish? Because that is EXACTLY what PD have done, to a tee.

If that isn't bias to the product name I don't know what it is.



I mean I've searched, but I can't seem to find the posts where you're absolutely up in arms about GTS having only 150 cars. Pretty funny you picked that number exactly.

Did I say I liked the lack of content so far?? I still say I prefer less graphic detail but more content.
Most likely we've got GT Sport like it is because all those whiners complaining about lack of detail in cars, and standard cars being so rubbish, having no interior and all that... Thats the main thing the whiners cried about in all the GT5/GT6 years. So here you go, Kaz listen to you and instead of a lot of content with less detail, we got less content with a lot of detail
But the best part is that whiners will keep on whining, now whiners have completely changed direction, now they complain about too much detail and not enough content.

 

[Samus]

Did I say I liked the lack of content so far?? I still say I prefer less graphic detail but more content.
We've got GT Sport like it is because all those whiners complaining about lack of detail in cars, and standard cars being so rubbish, having no interior and all that... So here you go, Kaz listen to you and instead of a lot of content with less detail, we got less content with a lot of detail
But the best part is that whiners will keep on whining, now whiners have completely changed direction, now they complain about too much detail and not enough content.

But Forza 5 was "rubbish" because of how little content it had. Is GT Sport also rubbish? The GT Sport that is arriving four years after the "rubbish" Forza 5?

Also can show me the people saying that they want the cars in GT to be the "highest quality, highest precision models in the world" second in detail only to CAD models, with accurately recreated "spacing between body panels" and "precisely recreated headlights and turn signals", which PD advertise? I don't recall anyone ever saying they wanted that, but that is what PD has given us whilst other companies have created less detailed cars, but a heck of a lot more of them.

Wanting a cockpit view in all cars is not the same as wanting an insanely detailed one down to the stitching on the rear seats.

 

[NixxxoN]

But Forza 5 was "rubbish" because of how little content it had. Is GT Sport also rubbish? The GT Sport that is arriving four years after the "rubbish" Forza 5?

Also can show me the people saying that they want the cars in GT to be the "highest quality, highest precision models in the world" second in detail only to CAD models, with accurately recreated "spacing between body panels" and "precisely recreated headlights and turn signals", which PD advertise? I don't recall anyone ever saying they wanted that, but that is what PD has given us whilst other companies have created less detailed cars, but a heck of a lot more of them.

Wanting a cockpit view in all cars is not the same as wanting an insanely detailed one down to the stitching on the rear seats.

I only can laugh at this response. Most if not all the complainers wanted high detail in all cars and scrap all standards, no matter if you got less content... So voila, you get it, suddenly you change opinion. Never admitting being in the wrong, of course. I can only keep on laughing and laughing.

 

[TS050]

I only can laugh at this response. Most if not all the complainers high detail in all cars and scrap all standards, no matter if you got less content... So voila, you get it, suddenly you change opinion. Never admitting being in the wrong, of course. I can only keep on laughing and laughing.

But what if...you're the one in the wrong and you can't admit it?

You ever think about that?

 

[Northstar]

Banned why? No need to ban to do so.

So they've been deleting your posts than?

The only thing I've seen is @Scaff disagreeing with you, that's far from trying to shut you up.

scrap all standards,

I don't feel like eating dog crap, that doesn't mean I only want fine dining.

 

[NixxxoN]

So they've been deleting your posts than?.

Yes, not joking, I've got some post deleted for no apparent reason because I was not infracting or anything.

 

[Famine]

Yes, not joking, I've got some post deleted for no apparent reason because I was not infracting or anything.

Where? From what thread?

 

[NixxxoN]

Where? From what thread?

"What Did We Learn From the GT Sport Beta" pretty sure I made a post there. Got removed.

 

[Samus]

I only can laugh at this response. Most if not all the complainers wanted high detail in all cars and scrap all standards, no matter if you got less content... So voila, you get it, suddenly you change opinion. Never admitting being in the wrong, of course. I can only keep on laughing and laughing.

So no, you can't show me that. You can't show me one person who said they wanted the insanely detailed cars that PD have created? I can find plenty of people saying they wanted rid of the standards, I was one of them, I never once said I wanted detailed headlights and panel gaps and the highest quality models in the world.

If you can show these people, show it, otherwise you're just inventing people to suit your argument.

I also doubt you'll find ANYONE who expected or wanted the premium cars to disappear, but that is what we got.

You also didn't answer my question. If Forza 5, released 4 years ago with low content was "Rubbish", why do you not hold the same opinion of GT Sport? Because of it's name.

 

[NixxxoN]

So no, you can't show me that. You can't show me one person who said they wanted the insanely detailed cars that PD have created? I can find plenty of people saying they wanted rid of the standards, I was one of them, I never once said I wanted detailed headlights and panel gaps and the highest quality models in the world.

If you can show these people, show it, otherwise you're just inventing people to suit your argument.

I also doubt you'll find ANYONE who expected or wanted the premium cars to disappear, but that is what we got.

You also didn't answer my question. If Forza 5, released 4 years ago with low content was "Rubbish", why do you not hold the same opinion of GT Sport? Because of it's name.

To sum it up, complainers will complain. Nothing more to add. I'm off.

 

[Samus]

To sum it up, complainers will complain. Nothing more to add. I'm off.

To sum up, waah I have no reply to your actual points, so I'll just return to my echo chamber and ignore you.

Have fun there.

 

[Famine]

"What Did We Learn From the GT Sport Beta" pretty sure I made a post there. Got removed.

Yep. One of a sequence of four posts removed from the thread that were not discussing the topic, but instead discussing the people in it. Although obviously not, because we're out to silence you, specifically.

Any more?

 

[NixxxoN]

Yep. One of a sequence of four posts removed from the thread that were not discussing the topic, but instead discussing the people in it. Although obviously not, because we're out to silence you, specifically.

Any more?

Except I was dicussing the topic

 

[Famine]

Except I was dicussing the topic

No you weren't. I have it right here in front of me. The topic was "What did we learn from the GT Sport Beta" and your comments were exclusively about "certain people" being "negative" and "complaining". Your post was three lines long and didn't mention the GT Sport Beta at all, much less what you learned from it.

That's discussing the people, not the topic. Three other posts were removed on a similar basis.

So, any other posts removed by the moderators who just want to silence your opinion that, somehow, you keep on being able to express and keep evading any challenge on?

 

[NixxxoN]

No you weren't. I have it right here in front of me. The topic was "What did we learn from the GT Sport Beta" and your comments were exclusively about "certain people" being "negative" and "complaining". Your post was three lines long and didn't mention the GT Sport Beta at all, much less what you learned from it.

That's discussing the people, not the topic. Three other posts were removed on a similar basis.

So, any other posts removed by the moderators who just want to silence your opinion that, somehow, you keep on being able to express and keep evading any challenge on?

And thats one of the things I learnt from GT Sport beta... That certain people will keep on complaining no matter what.
But its no problem... please, keep on censoring.

 

[PzR Slim]

are you serious

Nope, he has a lack of credibility imo.

Samus has proved beyond doubt that the name on the cover of the game box is the deciding factor on his 'opinion'. Zero credibility. Sad.

 

[Famine]

And thats one of the things I learnt from GT Sport beta... That certain people will keep on complaining no matter what.

Which is again, discussing the people in the topic and not the topic.

But its no problem... please, keep on censoring.

We certainly will. It's literally what moderation is - when someone posts a daft comment about other users, it gets removed (along with any responses rising to the flamebait) in order to moderate the tone of the thread.

If you want to post opinions unchallenged, I'd recommend you get a blog. If you want to post thoughts about other people, I'd recommend Twitter or Facebook. We expect more of our users here on GTPlanet than that.


Stop claiming that the staff are out to silence you simply because you have off-topic flamebait comments removed (with no Infractions issued) and because sometimes the people who challenge you to back up your opinions are also staff members. If we wanted you silenced, you would not be able to post at all.

Please address any further complaints about moderation you may have to the appropriate channels.

 

[Scaff]

I can do the same if you want, I can call you BS on that camera shake movement since its a fake thing that I think it doesnt happen in real life and it only annoys you.

Not only does it happen, but most titles downplay it to quite a degree.



Helmet mounted camera that shows the drivers head moving side to side under cornering and forward and back under braking and acceleration.

 

[NixxxoN]

Not only does it happen, but most titles downplay it to quite a degree.



Helmet mounted camera that shows the drivers head moving side to side under cornering and forward and back under braking and acceleration.

I'd say when G forces are not involved in games, can't compare both at all

 

[PzR Slim]

I'd say when G forces are not involved in games, can't compare both at all

As I've told you in the past I experience G-Forces in my motion rig all the time in racing games. You literally haven't nothing to back up you ridiculous assertions in defending your chosen favourite. Even when people show that you have used the exact same arguments against other franchises you still keep up the sham. Have you no shame?

 

[Northstar]

I'd say when G forces are not involved in games, can't compare both at all

Just wondering, what's you're preferred method for moving goalposts?

 

[Scaff]

I'd say when G forces are not involved in games, can't compare both at all

So just to be clear you are saying that as we can't feel g-forces in a game then no attempt should be made to show the effects of them?

 

[NixxxoN]

As I've told you in the past I experience G-Forces in my motion rig all the time in racing games. You literally haven't nothing to back up you ridiculous assertions in defending your chosen favourite. Even when people show that you have used the exact same arguments against other franchises you still keep up the sham. Have you no shame?

So what? I'm talking about playing without motion rig.
Regardless of whos right or wrong, I like watching some armchair experts pretending to have the absolute truth getting pissed of because I dont yield to their sacred beliefs

So just to be clear you are saying that as we can't feel g-forces in a game then no attempt should be made to show the effects of them?

I think those attempts are not good and its not the same feeling at all. The movements and feelings you get in real life are one thing, and the other is the camera shaking which to me doesnt feel anything like the real thing and does not much more than annoy you.

 

[PzR Slim]

So what? I'm talking about playing without motion rig.
Regardless of whos right or wrong, I like watching some armchair experts pretending to have the absolute truth getting pissed of because I dont yield to their sacred beliefs

lol, the irony is strong in this one. There's only one person in this thread who can't take others having a negative opinion of his favourite. Even though he has expressed the exact same issues with other franchises.

 

[Scaff]

Regardless of whos right or wrong, I like watching some armchair experts pretending to have the absolute truth getting pissed of because I dont yield to their sacred beliefs

Play the ball not the man.

You are not going to get reminded again.

 

[NixxxoN]

Play the ball not the man.

You are not going to get reminded again.

You must have missed the "he's a joke" message above then.

 

[Scaff]

I think those attempts are not good and its not the same feeling at all. The movements and feelings you get in real life are one thing, and the other is the camera shaking which to me doesnt feel anything like the real thing and does not much more than annoy you.

To you it may not, to others it does (and some of those people are not 'armchair experts'), given that it can in most titles be switched off what would then be the harm in having it?

You must have missed the "he's a joke" message above then.

I'm addressing you, focus on your own posts and the feedback you have had in regard to how you post not others.

The staff are perfectly capable of dealing with both without your assistance, and the AUP has no sub-clause that retaliation makes it open to being broken.