I cant beat the first 5 races!!!! Help!

[Racer_Boy]

I beat he 2nd one and the third and got first place, but the 1st, 4, 5 I always get third!!! Help! i have a Mazda MX- 5 Miata J-Limited II (J) '93 with a racing chip, A first weight reduction, a wing on the back, after I bought it I got an oil change and I have the first stage of exhaust& air filter sports. Its only 140 horse power. What do I do?

 

[bergauk]

Restart and pick a better car? Or you could go look somewhere else besides the race reports subforum, You'd be better off just writing this in the main part of the forum. The wing was a bad choice too.. you wont need it until later on. I'd suggest restarting, and picking a car, then instead of buying performance mods, buy drivetrain adjustments.

 

[Loon]

The term...screwed comes to mind, as in...you are. I'd take Bergauk's advice.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I beat he 2nd one and the third and got first place, but the 1st, 4, 5 I always get third!!! Help! i have a Mazda MX- 5 Miata J-Limited II (J) '93 with a racing chip, A first weight reduction, a wing on the back, after I bought it I got an oil change and I have the first stage of exhaust& air filter sports. Its only 140 horse power. What do I do?

Yeh, restart. A racing wing and weight modification won't do anything for you in your frst car. You need horsepower, and as much as you can get. Wings and weight reductions are higher-order trimmings that you shouldn't be considering until later in the game.

 

[bergauk]

Wings are useless unless you have a car that does 250 and you can't control it.
It's like putting spinners on a bicycle, it looks stupid and doesn't help.

Why did you copy and paste this?

 

[Motominded]

are making multiple thread becoming allowed?

Im against that!

 

[bergauk]

No, they're not, at least not to my knowledge. Considering I told him to post this here, as it was a much more suitable place for it than in Race Reports. But he already got the advice needed in race reports. So idk why he would be posting this again.

 

[Duke]

The first 5 races in what series? Give us a little something to work with, here.

I'm going to suggest that you restart also. But I'm going to say that before you even think of buying a car, you go get all silvers in the first two license levels. Not only will you win cars to drive (or sell), but you will actually learn how to drive, and you'll be able to win the races.

[edit] Merged.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

The first 5 races in what series? Give us a little something to work with, here.

I know. That confused me too.

 

[Racer_Boy]

The sunday cup! beginers??

o and i cant beat the drivers liscence b! i cant beat all of the test, and i barley finish with bronze

 

[the Interceptor]

o and i cant beat the drivers liscence b! i cant beat all of the test, and i barley finish with bronze

Your problem is obvious then: you need to practice more. If you can beat the license tests, you can also beat the first races. Watch the demos of the respective tests, compare your driving to it and see where you lose time.

Anyway, the MX-5 is not a bad car to begin with, you just need more practice with it, too.

 

[SolidSnake15]

If you insist on using the MX-5, then weight reduction and handling aren't what you want to focus on. Focus on getting your BHP up. The MX-5 already has excellent handling but it's power is low. Do the license tests, get some money, and buy NA tuning upgrades. That's how I did it.

o and i cant beat the drivers liscence b! i cant beat all of the test, and i barley finish with bronze

Practice Practice Practice.

 

[BLITZ_69]

The MX5 is a great car to start with, but when I had to restart my game a while back, my first car was the Lancer Evolution (can't remember which, I think it was IV) from the used car lot.

It fit the budget, and had enough power to get through the early races, stock.

 

[Duke]

o and i cant beat the drivers liscence b! i cant beat all of the test, and i barley finish with bronze

...which completely explains why you can't beat the beginners races.

We can't help you unless you decide to go practice until you know how to drive. That's what the license tests are for - use them. Get silvers on the A and B tests, then go back and try the races again. You'll see a huge difference.

If you just use upgrades now to make it so you can't lose the races, we'll all just have to go back through this again in a month when you get to races where you can't upgrade your car, or where the AI are already upgraded...

...because at that point you still won't have learned to drive, since you'll have been using power to win.

Really, I'm not trying to be harsh on you. This is the only way that really works.

 

['92_NSX_Type_R]

One more thing you may want to do is, If you have a Gran Turismo 3 save data, you can transfer some of the licens (don't remember which ones) and 100,000 Cr. which will help you out.

 

[Duke]

He doesn't need money to spend. He needs practice.

 

[mustangGT90210]

Dude, you need to practice.

Or GT isn't your series...

 

[mcsqueegy]

Yeah, i'd say. Especially if he's referring to the Sunday cup! I mean, i won one of those races going backwards.

 

[AERO_HDT]

I had some difficulty with the first couple of races when I started GT4, but then again, I was using an '83 Honda Civic 1500. It was such a different feel to GT3, there was less grip, the cars felt less responsive and I lost my first four races in a row before I figured it out.

Practice, is of course, your number one ally. But hey, I've seen guys practice for 12 hours straight and still make the same mistakes. I watched a mate of mine put two wheels on the outside grass at the entry of Spoon on Suzuka before hitting the brakes. He did it once, he the same the following lap. And the one after that. And the one after THAT!

Four laps, all identical mistakes. He clearly wasn't learning.

I found a key area to GT was throttle control, and I especially found that coasting helped a lot, instead of the usual throttle on/off, brake on/off style that many people advocate. It's amazing how hard it is for some people to just 'steer' and not use the gas or brake at all.

Try it, it might work for you!

 

[mustangGT90210]

I had some difficulty with the first couple of races when I started GT4, but then again, I was using an '83 Honda Civic 1500. It was such a different feel to GT3, there was less grip, the cars felt less responsive and I lost my first four races in a row before I figured it out.

Practice, is of course, your number one ally. But hey, I've seen guys practice for 12 hours straight and still make the same mistakes. I watched a mate of mine put two wheels on the outside grass at the entry of Spoon on Suzuka before hitting the brakes. He did it once, he the same the following lap. And the one after that. And the one after THAT!

Four laps, all identical mistakes. He clearly wasn't learning.

I found a key area to GT was throttle control, and I especially found that coasting helped a lot, instead of the usual throttle on/off, brake on/off style that many people advocate. It's amazing how hard it is for some people to just 'steer' and not use the gas or brake at all.

Try it, it might work for you!

But that just feels slow!

 

['92_NSX_Type_R]

Ya I know he may need practice but with that car he can do all the practice he wants and still lose. Thats why if you have more money you can get a better car to learn with and then do the races again, am I right?

 

[mustangGT90210]

Ya I know he may need practice but with that car he can do all the practice he wants and still lose. Thats why if you have more money you can get a better car to learn with and then do the races again, am I right?

...Kind of?

But why rush it?

 

[VTiRoj]

The MX-5 is a fantastic little car, I can't see why it's struggling at the Sunday Cup at all.

But 2 easy to drive, fast cars for undert Cr.10,000 that come to mind is the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo I and the Subaru Impreza WRX STi Ver.II.

 

['92_NSX_Type_R]

True the MX-5 is a good little car but to me it doesn't have enough balls (pardon the expression) but yes it may be a good starter car.

and Yes it may be rushing it but It helped me out by trying out three or four cars when I started playing this game

By the way nice avitar MustangGT I want to use it to lol

 

[VTiRoj]

True it does lack power. But considering how cheap it is, you can easily afford to chip it when you first buy it, boosting power by a fair bit.

I bought a damn Nissan Skyline GT-R M-spec Nur as my first car, I can't comment on rushing.

 

[Statos]

Or try this link: http://www.ea.com/prostreet/locale_selector.jsp

 

[mcsqueegy]

If you get the extra 100K from owning GT3, grab the Chevy Z06. Tune it up. Win most of the American showroom, and win a Camaro Race car! Use that for all the Special Conditions also It's a great choice in black, you won't be disappointed .

 

[PARAGON GT]

The MX-5 is a fantastic little car, I can't see why it's struggling at the Sunday Cup at all.

My guess would be driving aids are really slowing him/her down.

Small cars with that low of power are really affected by the TCS. Start to slide a little bit and the aids apply the brakes, then you have to struggle to get back up to speed.

I was messing around with a MX-5 Miata VR-Limited that I picked up for under the starting credit budget. I can't say that I had any trouble beating the Sunday Cup with the car, and I didn't put any money into it aside from an oil change. I believe that it had 132HP while stock, so with the 140hp that you have, you should be ok.

If you are looking to salvage your game, and not start over, here is what I would do.

Take your time in going through the license tests. Take each one untill you can acheive a silver award, or at least come close to silver. This will help you learn the mechanics of the game. This isn't a fuzzy screen flames out the back of the car nitro boost game. The physics are a lot more reality based than most of the driving games, it may take a while to get use to that depending on what you have played in the past.

Turn off the driving aids in the car. I have a feeling this is might be giving you some trouble. In a low powered car like the MX-5 (any of them) its only going to hurt its performance. The car isn't powerfull enough to spin its tires with out a little tuning from its stock form. Get use to driving the car with out driving aids, in the long run, it will help you out too.

From how you described how you have tuned your car, I would suggest saving up some credits for the close ratio transmission. It will alow you to accelerate faster out of a corner, but you will loose some of your top end. In the MX-5 it is definately worth it. Just run the races that you know you can win to save up for it.

 

[SolidSnake15]

Or try this link: http://www.ea.com/prostreet/locale_selector.jsp

1. Prostreet sucks.
2. What does it have to do with this discussion?

 

[Smallhorses]

I think (or at least hope) he was referring to that being a game where you can simply rely on tuning your way out of every situation, which you can't do in GT4.
If he's trying, on the other hand, to advertise NFSrostreet then he's welcome to take his advertising elsewhere, as it isn't looked upon favourably within a Gran Turismo based forum.
He's got the benefit of the doubt at the moment though.

To Racer_Boy:

If you can't beat Sunday Cup in a stock MX-5, nevermind a modified one, then you're going to need an awful lot of practice (heed the advice of the folks that told you to do the licence tests!) before you can progress in this game.

With practise comes driving skill, and driving skill >>>>> too much power, any day of the week.

Here's a case in point. Race 1 of Sunday Cup, 200 A-spec points.
Won in a 43HP bone-stock VW Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-I) '68. (By me! )
Not just won, but won cleanly against the first lineup after a console reset, facing cars with almost triple the HP of my VW.

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Note that I have very little torque to pull away from the start, or exiting bends, as the AI pulls away, however, I drive better & quicker lines through the bends, and in this car never let off the gas, in order to maintain the momentum that's required to grab the win here.

Take some time to learn the best line through each bend on each course you'll race on. If you lose time hitting a wall or going onto the sand/grass because every turn comes as a surpise to you, then you'll struggle later on in the game when you're forced to drive identical cars or even underpowered cars compared to your opposition.

Take the chip & the wing off your Miata, and learn to drive it smoothly first. 👍
Try not to rely on power modifications to win races. 👎
Better tyres, brakes & suspension should come before more power gets added, just like in real life.