IRS Blancpain Intercontinental GT Challenge: Season 2 | Saturdays 8:30p EST | 2.4H Finale at Spa!!
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So I did a little experimenting with this one. Full disclosure, I had help here from the start. @Herimopp89 and @Neutty provided me with a base tune and some sound advise (because we're good like that). I never liked tuning, I never understood it. Let me choose a car, turn BoP on and let's go. I'm good with that. This is so much more work, so many variables, even with a base tune to start out with.
Since the race at Bathurst, I spent time every single day preparing for Sardegna. Every day! To say that I was prepared for this race would be an understatement. Tune, test, repeat. For hours. Just to answer this exact question. Now I have my answer. I didn't get pole or fastest lap, but I did get the top step and that's enough for me. Preparation is everything.
Now there's no way I'm going to be doing this week in, week out. Don't have that kind of time to kill. The goal was to see if it would make a difference. In my case, though certainly not the best, I am a better driver than I am a tuner. With practice and over time, I hope to get better.
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I can pay testament to that. If you could look at my quali times, you’ll see I was running multiple low 1:18s before finally jumping the 3-4 tenths to get the 1:17.8. I knew I could run that time, but can I hit it consistently? Nope.
As for tuning, this is my first series as well where it’s a factor and I don’t have much experience with it from previous GTs either. I did something similar to Caligula and found a base tune online and tweaked it to fit the circuit each week. I also have been really wanting to learn MR cars lately and took the opportunity on the Audi after I saw my default (Lexus) was taken.
I guess what I’m trying to say is, everyone in this series is facing challenges regardless of finishing position. We’re all here trying to improve and having someone faster than you gives you a target to shoot for.
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You also have to account for the fact that the driver pool this season is far more stacked than last season. Some guys in Am have Pro pace, but there are not enough spots in the Pro lobby to mitigate that.
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I don’t care enough to try and be moved to Am anyway, it won’t make the car any more fun to drive. I tried one of the Gr.3 series that everyone loves so much and just confirmed why I hate them. I’ll just go back to avoiding them.
I’m dropping out, it’s no fun driving around for 90 minutes being a moving chicane 3+ seconds off the pace and almost 2 laps down at every track. The only time I’ve seen another car in any of the races is when a faster car crashes and has to pass me on their recovery drive or when I’m being lapped.
I’m dropping out, it’s no fun driving around for 90 minutes being a moving chicane 3+ seconds off the pace and almost 2 laps down at every track. The only time I’ve seen another car in any of the races is when a faster car crashes and has to pass me on their recovery drive or when I’m being lapped.
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Hang in there man. What was your pace for Sardegna? I think you’re right about the class shakeup to get some more competitive racing going.
Personally this last race has just shown that I have no chance of keeping up with the PRO tuners because I’ve no idea what I’m doing in that regard, and don’t have a race engineer to help me tune. Caligula actually ended up lapping me in 4th by the end of the race. And @The Gran Finale was poised to do the same if he hadn’t gotten damage. 1:20 down while I was consistently putting mid 19 laps in the race with an 18.9 quali time. Not to downplay their performance, but I highly doubt I’m a lap down in driver ability there.
But I’m new here and tuning seems to be a huge part of the series and key to success. The racing itself is a great time so I’m going to continue.
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Please don't leave. There will be an annoincement shortly
@bloodyboyblue I second this and encourage you to stick it out. I was really having a hard time with gr. 3 cars and last night was the first night I could hang with the next group of people to battle with. It was extremely frustrating when I joined clean racers gr 4 series and started to see myself progress there then I come over here and I was a solid second off the same people I was competing with in gr 4 cars.
I’m looking forward toward building off what I started last night and I still have a long way to go in gr 3 and to get back to the level I raced at in GT6. I think that’s the main thing with racing always trying to improve
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Not really but okay. To each their own.
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It literally comes down to driver ability, except for the disparity using a wheel than a controller.
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Unfortunately with GT Sport it's more than that. It comes down to who knows how to exploit the physics better. I'd rather not play that game and win based on actual pace.
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I'm going to poke my nose in on the conversation by saying that tuning in itself will not create a 2-3 second difference in pace over stock....more like .8 to a second tops. It's the consistency of some of the top slot drivers being able to run that .5 to 1 sec faster, lap after lap, after lap, which the tuning helps facilitate. Consistency and Driver skill plays way more into it than you would think.
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.8-1 second per lap is...an absolutely insane gap. Often times that's the difference between a top 10 time and a time outside the top 100. Not quite sure what you're getting at. In a 68 lap race if I'm consistent for 68 laps, but down on pace by .8-1s because of a poor tune then at the end of the race I'm over a minute behind the leader assuming we both perform consistently and finish well.
That's exactly what happened in the AM lobby for Round 3.
edit: Like I mentioned before though, I'm a newb to this series. I'm not trying to disrupt what's already established. Just providing my perspective.
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Isn't that what racing is all about how to exploit physics and get the most out of your car every lap while having a fast pace. Its not a GT Sport thing at all, it is a real life thing. Ultimately it comes down to driver skill set and how familiar you are with a track...
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I say it like that because what I would expect a car to do in real life doesn't always equate to what it does in GTSport. You have to learn what the game does and exploit it to the limit. I'm not that extreme
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I can’t speak for @Granadier, but I ran a perfect lap in qualifying with I time similar to his and was 1.1 seconds off pole. I’m already not as consistent as @BGCaligula and @The Gran Finale, but to be that far off despite getting the most I could out of a lap was just insane. If BGC spent that much time tuning though, he earned that result.
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No offense but most of us have no clue how a real life GT3 car will drive so to make that assumption is beyond me. #2 this is a game there are some things that they can not replicate vs real life. #3 Read this ARTICLE about people exploiting the physics in real life cars. Not trying to argue with you just trying to prove a point that people will exploit physics of any car that is raced regardless of where you race at.
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You're right, I don't know. But I've watched many first hand accounts of real drivers with Assetto Corsa and I trust their testimonies on how realistic it is. I have it too. Things I would expect a car to do in AC it might not necessarily do in GT Sport.
But that whole realism discussion is a completely different can of worms
But that whole realism discussion is a completely different can of worms
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Completely different games...its like taking a Mazda mx5 and expecting it to tow your 10k lb 5th wheel camper.
While you can use the experience you get from other games you still have to drive like it is GT Sport.
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And that's my self admitted problem sometimes. Oh well...
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.8-1 second is in a best case scenario. I personally have found around only .5 on average over stock in my skill set for tuning and driving. Your taking it that their tune is .8 to a second faster than you, but say your tune netted a .5 gain over stock, the difference could be closer .2-.3 assuming your driving skills were exactly the same. As Heri said, in racing, the fastest drivers are those who can exploit the most out of a given car, on a given track most consistently. Any discipline of racing will display this.
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This is the same when you drive a real car and switching cars. You must learn their limit all over again. It’s the same exact thing in the game. You have the learn the limit of the car. All in all it’s the same.
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Can’t knock it till you try it. (Yes, I know it’s not a Miata. But it’s still small and funny.)
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LMAO
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