Is GT Sport a wrong choice? FM vs GT war issue

[beyond72]

I've never played FM7 but all the things I've seen about it look really good.
I've been a GT player since the game was first introduced and I was and still am disappointed to see the steps backwards GTS took compared to other games and even their own past GT titles.
It still amazes me how they took so much content out of this title and yet people seem to be so happy with a lot less.

I really like how the weather looks in FM7

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Coming directly from GT6 and FM4, for me FM7 is the best of both of worlds, it's got the content of GT6 but with the polish of FM4.

 

[Volksauto]

I play both Gran Turismo Sport and Forza Motorsport 7. I don't understand this "war". Both games are excellent and I guess people only bash the other side just to make them and their opinions feel superior. Both games have their pros and cons. I can see why people prefer Forza over GT and vice versa. But I always seem to come back to GT. The online play is more entertaining than Forza. Forza's online is great but in my opinion, I think no other video game has a better online system than Gran Turismo Sport.
But besides that, I love both games and I'm glad PD and Turn 10 keep updating them to make each a better game.

 

[Brego]

None of the games require a subscription. The consoles do.

I understand the concept. However, since I do not have the subscription, I cannot play the game online and the online aspect is the main point of GTS. So, the essence of my question remains. If I purchase PC2 and I do not have a playstation plus subscription, am I going to be limited in what I can do with the game?

 

[stpatty]

I understand the concept. However, since I do not have the subscription, I cannot play the game online and the online aspect is the main point of GTS. So, the essence of my question remains. If I purchase PC2 and I do not have a playstation plus subscription, am I going to be limited in what I can do with the game?

Yes, since you won't be able to play online.

 

[Brego]

I play both Gran Turismo Sport and Forza Motorsport 7. I don't understand this "war". Both games are excellent and I guess people only bash the other side just to make them and their opinions feel superior. Both games have their pros and cons. I can see why people prefer Forza over GT and vice versa. But I always seem come back to GT. The online play is more entertaining than Forza. Forza's online is great but in my opinion, I think no other video game that has a better online system than Gran Turismo Sport.
But besides that, I love both games and I'm glad PD and Turn 10 keep updating them to make each a better game.

I agree, its just basic fanboyism. To me it is the same as android vs iphone or pc vs apple. I started with the first and therefore I prefer it, i know it well, used to it, etc.. if I try the other one, I don't have all that familiarity and that makes me less competent (at least to start with), and therefore I like it less. However I don't usually take the position that the one I like is objectively better. MANY people do though, because they can't distinguish a personal preference from an objective fact. Somehow, if your choice is different, then it must ipso facto be worse, because otherwise it implies that my choice is less competent or poor or something to that effect. People get emotionally invested in being superior to the next guy. That is what the "war" is about, in my opinion.

Yes, since you won't be able to play online.

So then, Project Cars 2 is also mainly online? If not, how much of the game is centered around it?

 

[stpatty]

So then, Project Cars 2 is also mainly online? If not, how much of the game is centered around it?

Not nearly to the same extent as GT Sport is. Swap the two proportions round - PC2's singleplayer is as prominent as Sport's multiplayer.

 

[ScottPuss20]

GT Sport is not a wrong choice. Although it lacks content compared to Forza, that isn't to say it's a bad game. GT Sport has a unique feel that only PD can provide; Forza seemingly lacks character in comparison. It also has a larger brand recognition and fanbase, so plenty of community content is available if you're into that stuff.

 

[Aphelion]

There is lot of negative opinions about GT Sport in the internet, like "it's unfinished game" etc. and obviously famous "FORZA IS BETTER". The number of these opinions is overwhelming so sometimes I wonder if GT Sport is a wrong choice. I don't have an Xbox, I wanted to choose PS4 first, not mainly for GT Sport, I bought it by the way to check it beacuse I am Gran Turismo fan since 2013. Forza 7 looks promising but now I don't have money and parents permission to get Xbox One. I wasn't playing every day anyway. I have a PS4 since 20,12,2017 and got only about 90 hours in GT Sport beacuse I preferred to waste my time in online games like Rocket League, Battlefield or Call of Duty. And it wasn't like that I was never bored of GTS. I had boredom moments lot of times, no motivation to play singleplayer content and arcade mode gets boring fast. Now I'm going to come back to GTS again, I enjoy that game when I play other modes more than arcade modes, but everytime I ask about how the game is, there is more mixed, negative or "FORZA IS BETTER" opinions than positive. What's your opinion about GT Sport? Is it in your opinion still a good and enjoyable game despite that "FORZA IS BETTER"?

By the way there is a Metacritic user score of both games. GT Sport 6,0 and FM7 X1 5.9, PC version 4.1

I generally tend to pay little attention to metacritic user scores when there are heaps of positive reviews and heaps of negative reviews, and almost no mediocre reviews. Most of these people are completely exaggerating their scores: and average game often gets given hundreds of 0/10 scores for simply not quite meeting peoples expectations. Or people give exagerated scores specifically to influence the overall score.

My favorite one is "this game deserves a 6/10 but I gave it a 0 because the average score is too high". I don't get how anyone can justify that kind of thinking in their heads.

 

[TonyJZX]

I feel like the GT driving model from GT5-6-Sport has improved. Sport has a really good model now, probably the best of its generation.

I feel like the Forza model has devolved. FM5 I admit was overly complex and there seemed like a lot to manage. FM6 cleaned it up a bit and simplified it but FM7 went over the top almost to the point that they're doing Kaz's bit where "Racing is for everyone"... yes by having what feels like a dead lifeless model that anyone should be able to get a grip of. FM7 feels very dead after driving GT Sport.

I kind of feel like FM7 and FH3 has reached a nadir and everything else after coming after it has to have some changes before I dip back in.

I admit I enjoyed FM7 quite a bit but that was before I bought GTS.

I do like how FM7 has legs now that it will swansong on Xbox One but I have no motivation to fire it up. Might see what the go is with the Hot WHeels pack...

 

[queleuleu]

Facts:
Forza 7 has more: tracks, cars, bigger career mode, better customisatisation, weather conditions, better showroom with Forzavista, lots of challenges with rivals, better camera views options, cool gameplay for controller user, fun drifting and so on.
Conclusion: I prefer GTSport.
There's something in Gran Turismo that I can't find elsewhere. Cars look real. Watching cars in the dealership; listening to the right song and it's like being in a art gallery. That's why I'm a little bit disappointed that Poly doesn't improve the camera options in showroom.

 

[Famine]

I understand the concept. However, since I do not have the subscription, I cannot play the game online and the online aspect is the main point of GTS. So, the essence of my question remains. If I purchase PC2 and I do not have a playstation plus subscription, am I going to be limited in what I can do with the game?

You will face exactly the same limitation - you will not be able to take part in online multiplayer races.

 

[TonyJZX]

I flat out dont understand why that is even a consideration.

Without Live Gold you cant participate in multiplayer in Forza 7 either.

All of them have the same strategy.

 

[gtuned]

You can point out flaws in both games to no end, personally I'm kinda fed up with the way Forza works anymore. I had FM6, and FH3 last and the games were just eh. There's nothing really being added that's innovative to Forza anymore. It seems like a few new cars, selective copy and paste, whatever isn't selected is reintroduced as paid DLC, and the games just seem the same, but with a minimal bump up in graphics from time to time, and not to mention I've never seen a AAA game studio have such piss poor Quality Control with the amount of issues and glitches I've seen in FH4. I've really failed to see how Forza's evolved and gotten better, especially with the massive improvement from GT6 to GTS, and again, this is coming from someone who was calling GTSport a failure and garbage before the game even came out.

And the other thing is, if you want to argue about Forza's "vast" customization, please do realize that this is mostly the same tuning from FM4, if not FM3, and the Forza edition cars should be enough of a clue that neither T10, or PG know what the hell they're doing when it comes to making custom aero. Do i need to remind you of the civic? That alone and the fact they're still not updating decade old models, or adding anything relevant other than Rocket Bunny/Liberty Walk/Hoonigan is just garbage.

So unless T10 gets their head out of their ass and makes a proper game, I think Forza's gonna continue down it's generic system it has, but you can't really argue GT vs Forza anymore, if you like one over the other sure, but it's getting to be 2 completely different games made by 2 completely different companies with completely different goals for that game.

 

[TonyJZX]

This man has it ^^^ - FM7 is at this point, is something T10 have to support just because that's all its going to be this generation. It has content but content isnt enough.

I would also like to say that the concept of "homologation" puts paid to any thoughts about customisation.

FM7 reminds me of Windows 10... it has legacy features under the skin still there but T10 doesnt want you to use them.

I feel like any content added to FM7 like the drag racing thing and the Hot Wheels pack is all in vain to try to "float a dead hooker" (so to speak - and apologies for the image).

FM7 is getting into the 'extended support' age and its stale.

GT Sport at least, is trying new concepts. It doesnt do as much as Fm7 but what it does, it just does better and in a unique way that no one else can do.

I come from this perspective more as a long term Forza fan. I did Forza 2/3/4 and up. I only did GT5/6 and S.

 

[beyond72]

try to "float a dead hooker" (so to speak - and apologies for the image).

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Jesus it ain't that bad lol!

 

[TonyJZX]

Here's a minor-ish thing... Forza 4 had an amazing soundtrack.

Forza 6 had a soundtrack that won awards and had an itunes release. It's frankly amazing for what it is.

Forza 5 and 7 = LOL

GT Sport soundtrack... and transmission mode. This is something only these guys can accomplish and its flat out unique among any game any genre.

I didnt even like it that much at the start but I listened a bit more and accepted Mark Farina, Pink Martini, RAM, Kay Nakayama, Donald Glover, Lennie.... this is pod racing.

I resisted these kinds of changes at the start but I GET, I understand what PD are doing.

Any game that expands your music tastes....

 

[GTV0819]

I know that you can't have everything in a single video game but if GT7 (if ever in the future, who knows) will have plentiful of cars that are detailed or premium from road cars to race cars, have variety of customization options, even for every race cars (like swapping the engine, changing the stock paint/wheels, etc.) and a dedicated free-roam mode similar to Forza's for those who wish to explore like me, then it's a winner. Sadly, most of these are just dreams or wishful thinking that PD may not implement in their future games at all.

Heck, I wouldn't also forget to mention that they should also learn how to implement turbo lag properly in the game. Even in GT Sport, it's just awful to see turbos spooling up instantly. And the engine sounds, while already decent, still needs some improvement. At least it's not crappy as it was in GT5 and GT6 anymore.

I know I'm not the type of guy who plays Gran Turismo online just to race with other people but let's just hope PD for the best in the future. If not, then there's really nothing we could do at all but play other similar racing games that seems to be more fun to play than this one.

 

[Volksauto]

Facts:
Forza 7 has more: tracks, cars, bigger career mode, better customisatisation, weather conditions, better showroom with Forzavista, lots of challenges with rivals, better camera views options, cool gameplay for controller user, fun drifting and so on.
Conclusion: I prefer GTSport.
There's something in Gran Turismo that I can't find elsewhere. Cars look real. Watching cars in the dealership; listening to the right song and it's like being in a art gallery. That's why I'm a little bit disappointed that Poly doesn't improve the camera options in showroom.

I listen to that same song when looking at he new DLC cars. Especially at 2:23-end fits the feel of finding new cars.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Forza seemingly lacks character in comparison.

Nah, it has one: it's just not GT's character. For some, that's a drawback, but I imagine it'd be worse if it was really just a cookie cutter response to PD.

Facts: *snip*
There's something in Gran Turismo that I can't find elsewhere.

Yep. Interestingly, out of all the racing games launched in the past 18 months, I've racked up the most miles in GTS. I didn't think that was the case, but a recent check confirmed it. It has that way of worming its way into my gaming the same way the old PS1 games did...

whatever isn't selected is reintroduced as paid DLC

I mean, this hasn't been the case (outside of one car, maybe two) since FM5. It was a jump to a new gen, but it was a dubious "we've rebuilt them" claim. Which I'd say T10 justifiably got crap for.

PD has the benefit of hindsight: the vast majority of Sport's post-launch content has been cars we saw in GT6, but it hasn't charged for it. Because — I imagine — there'd be a similar uproar.

And the other thing is, if you want to argue about Forza's "vast" customization, please do realize that this is mostly the same tuning from FM4, if not FM3

Track width changes, drift suspension, wide body kits... I don't remember any of those being in FM4.

A good chunk of the Forza series' customization is carry-over, yes. That's noteworthy because it's almost alone in the genre for offering it. Other games don't have it (PCARS2), or have moved backwards, removing most of it (GTS). The only games with comparable customization are The Crew and NFS. Of the two, I'd say NFS has a superior system... but it also has something like 1/10 the cars.

or adding anything relevant other than Rocket Bunny/Liberty Walk/Hoonigan is just garbage.

This translates to "not my taste = bad".

I mean, I'm not a fan of Rocket Bunny or Liberty Walk either, but I get why they're added:

FM7 is getting into the 'extended support' age and its stale.

GT Sport at least, is trying new concepts. It doesnt do as much as Fm7 but what it does, it just does better and in a unique way that no one else can do.

Do you mean Sport's trying new concepts in terms of its post-release approach? I ask because of the preceding sentence. If you do, I'd disagree: they're both largely in the "add new content" phase. Outside of a much-needed single player expansion back in December, and some updates to the livery editor earlier this year, I can't think of any major new concepts in Sport.

I called GT Sport the most changed since its launch in comparison to PCARS2 and FM7 last month, and I stand by it. But that's largely down to GT League and addressing v1.0's biggest weakness: the lack of content. The others needed to work on improving what was already there, IMO.

Here's a minor-ish thing... Forza 4 had an amazing soundtrack.

Forza 6 had a soundtrack that won awards and had an itunes release. It's frankly amazing for what it is.

Forza 5 and 7 = LOL

GT Sport soundtrack... and transmission mode. This is something only these guys can accomplish and its flat out unique among any game any genre.

I didnt even like it that much at the start but I listened a bit more and accepted Mark Farina, Pink Martini, RAM, Kay Nakayama, Donald Glover, Lennie.... this is pod racing.

I resisted these kinds of changes at the start but I GET, I understand what PD are doing.

Any game that expands your music tastes....

Agreed on all counts. I initially didn't mind FM7's soundtrack... but man it got old fast. FM3/4/6 are best.

GTS' has grown on me too. I don't know if it's more memorable than GT2's, but that's probably my adolescent nostalgia talking. I remember almost nothing from the PS3 era: I immediately put the GT1 soundtrack on the system and set the proper songs to menu and race music.

 

[05XR8]

You can point out flaws in both games to no end, personally I'm kinda fed up with the way Forza works anymore. I had FM6, and FH3 last and the games were just eh. There's nothing really being added that's innovative to Forza anymore. It seems like a few new cars, selective copy and paste, whatever isn't selected is reintroduced as paid DLC, and the games just seem the same, but with a minimal bump up in graphics from time to time, and not to mention I've never seen a AAA game studio have such piss poor Quality Control with the amount of issues and glitches I've seen in FH4. I've really failed to see how Forza's evolved and gotten better, especially with the massive improvement from GT6 to GTS, and again, this is coming from someone who was calling GTSport a failure and garbage before the game even came out.

And the other thing is, if you want to argue about Forza's "vast" customization, please do realize that this is mostly the same tuning from FM4, if not FM3, and the Forza edition cars should be enough of a clue that neither T10, or PG know what the hell they're doing when it comes to making custom aero. Do i need to remind you of the civic? That alone and the fact they're still not updating decade old models, or adding anything relevant other than Rocket Bunny/Liberty Walk/Hoonigan is just garbage.

So unless T10 gets their head out of their ass and makes a proper game, I think Forza's gonna continue down it's generic system it has, but you can't really argue GT vs Forza anymore, if you like one over the other sure, but it's getting to be 2 completely different games made by 2 completely different companies with completely different goals for that game.

However, Forza even with two "separate" games, have created an open world where many GT players wish would be available by PDI. T10 is in the business of making money. So, I don't see them combining that feature in a normal Forza game. I have F6 & FH3 and PC2. I started off by comparing games, but I changed my mind after some time with PC2(made me say, "graphics aren't everything"). As previous posts mention, these games shouldn't be compared. That's the main issue.

I agree about the "Civic" model. I personally own an EK1 and in that game, I just stayed away from it.

 

[klondike]

I have both Xbox One and playstation 4.

I used to play Forza a lot, but after I got GT Sport I almost never touch it.

Both games have their Weakness and strenght.

Playing on controllers I prefer the physics of GT sport. Somehow its very weird for me playing Forza now that I am more used to GT sport.

Forza 7 has the better track and car list. Also the single player campaign in Forza 7 is actually pretty good, as you can adjust race lenght and difficulty. So you dont have to brutally force your way through the field in 3 laps, and also on higher dificulty's its much more of a challenge compared to GT sports really dumb AI and no real career progress system.

Also Forza has a much better community interaction with the studio. Every month there are events for everyone to participate in like Rival timetrials and so on where you can win unicorn cars.

I feel ( Personal opinion ) That the GT sport interaction is mostly for the few elite alien people. I still enjoy watching the Events and so on, but for me there is not much reason to participate.

Also Other game functions in Forza are much better. For example time trials, rival system.

Replay mode in Forza 7 is like 1000 times better. You can scrool frame by frame back and forth when wathcing a replay so you can easely studdy lines to perfection. GT sport replay mode is very limited almost unusabel for wathing and studdy in detail.

Anyhow despite all this I still prefer playing GT sport for the actual Physics, and online play, Also I think the graphics in GT sport are much better.

Also about the subscription issue. Like others mentioned both console systems pretty much requires it.

The thing is I find the subscribtion ok value for money. They give free games each month, granted many of the games are rather poor, but also quite often there are very good A+ titles for free. So personally I find the subscription is worth the money.

 

[Yap018]

There is lot of negative opinions about GT Sport in the internet, like "it's unfinished game" etc. and obviously famous "FORZA IS BETTER". The number of these opinions is overwhelming so sometimes I wonder if GT Sport is a wrong choice. I don't have an Xbox, I wanted to choose PS4 first, not mainly for GT Sport, I bought it by the way to check it beacuse I am Gran Turismo fan since 2013. Forza 7 looks promising but now I don't have money and parents permission to get Xbox One. I wasn't playing every day anyway. I have a PS4 since 20,12,2017 and got only about 90 hours in GT Sport beacuse I preferred to waste my time in online games like Rocket League, Battlefield or Call of Duty. And it wasn't like that I was never bored of GTS. I had boredom moments lot of times, no motivation to play singleplayer content and arcade mode gets boring fast. Now I'm going to come back to GTS again, I enjoy that game when I play other modes more than arcade modes, but everytime I ask about how the game is, there is more mixed, negative or "FORZA IS BETTER" opinions than positive. What's your opinion about GT Sport? Is it in your opinion still a good and enjoyable game despite that "FORZA IS BETTER"?

By the way there is a Metacritic user score of both games. GT Sport 6,0 and FM7 X1 5.9, PC version 4.1

Hi there Blaster,

I'll just describe my situation and tell you my personal opinion.

I have a PS4 and both Gran Turismo and Project Cars 2. I don't play any online content, only single player races and time trials. I recently spent a few months outside home with a XBox 360 and Forza Motorsports 3 and loved it. I even considered getting that console and game as a complement to my current driving games lineup.

GT-S:
Pros:
- Extremely gorgeous graphics and presentation. Surpasses everything else by far.
- Very improved updated tire model (since 1.25, I think). I used to race only race cars before, now I want to race only road cars because you can really drive them now.
- Track list is improving as is the car list (veeeeeery slowly). Even so, the cars they add are generally out-dated and not current models.
- All updates have been free so far
- I don't have a wheel but I hear support within the game is very good.
- Excellent controller configuration out of the box.
- The best photo mode by far.
Cons:
- I cannot help but feel frustrated and underwhelmed when I think about GT-S. It has so much potential and feels restrained and I think it is because the EXTREME attention to detail they require for every car and track.
- No weather effects or real-time progression.
- "Lack" of communication and uncertainty when it comes to updates and when they come.
- It occupies more than 100 Gb of your hard drive!
- Very bad Artificial Intelligence or, as I like to call it, Artificial Stupidity

Project Cars 2:
Pros:
- THE BEST TRACK LIST BY FAR. Period.
- Very good weather effects and time progression in each and every track.
- Very good sound design in most of the cars.
- Better simulation of motorsport in general, if you like that (qualifications, track days, multi-class racing, managing tires and fuel, etc)
- Very deep car setup options.
- Fairly good AI
Cons:
- So-so car list, from my POV but that may be related to the next problem.
- Very difficult to race with a DS4 controller pad. You have to modify the sensitivity settings a lot and still they only work for a few cars and not very good for others. So you tend to race only with those cars you are able to drive and avoid the others.
- So-so graphics (to be fair, everything looks so-so when compared to GT-S).

FM3:
Pros:
- Excellent physics. You feels like you are really in control of the car at every moment except the real limits.
- Excellent car list, even beign an older game (2007, I believe).
- Very good track list.
- Excellent sound design.
Cons:
- This is a personal one: Too focused on American tracks and cars for my taste. I prefer European tracks, brands and racing in general.
- FM3 came with all of the content out-of-the-box. No paid DLC, I believe. Maybe some minor updates. From FM4 onwards, they chopped the game in pieces and started to charge for car packs that included cars you already had "for free" in FM3. To be fair, they also add a lot of free content but the majority is paid for.

That's my personal opinion. Please don't destroy me

 

[Scaff]

- Very improved updated tire model (since 1.25, I think). I used to race only race cars before, now I want to race only road cars because you can really drive them now.

Its improved for GT, but still quite a way behind AC or PC, can't say as far as FM goes as I've not tried a title this gen.

- I don't have a wheel but I hear support within the game is very good.

Its OK, the FFB is lacking massively in comparison to just about every other title on the PS4.

 

[DC2_Evan]

I've played both. I spent a bunch of time on FM7 when it was first released and really enjoyed it. Then one day I just stopped. After picking it up again one day last week since there was a big update, and I can't stand the way it feels now. You can def. tell it is more of an arcade game. It does have more cars and tracks, but the online is a joke. The handful of times I went online in any Forza game, I ended up just getting punted and rammed in every deep braking zone. The weather is nice, and most of the sounds are pretty good (the soundtrack blows, just turn it off and use spotify if you want music). If you want alot to do for single player, FM is ok, but GTS has probably the best online I've played in most games, racing or otherwise, due to how the matchmaking system works.

TL;DR - Forza is ok, but personally GTS has been more fun for me.

 

[Sander 001]

I understand the concept. However, since I do not have the subscription, I cannot play the game online and the online aspect is the main point of GTS. So, the essence of my question remains. If I purchase PC2 and I do not have a playstation plus subscription, am I going to be limited in what I can do with the game?

I've played PC2 quite a bit and never ventured online; the motorsports career is plenty entertaining and challenging.

 

[Mati_Blaster]

Project Cars 2:
Pros:
- THE BEST TRACK LIST BY FAR. Period.
- Very good weather effects and time progression in each and every track.
- Very good sound design in most of the cars.
- Better simulation of motorsport in general, if you like that (qualifications, track days, multi-class racing, managing tires and fuel, etc)
- Very deep car setup options.
- Fairly good AI
Cons:
- So-so car list, from my POV but that may be related to the next problem.
- Very difficult to race with a DS4 controller pad. You have to modify the sensitivity settings a lot and still they only work for a few cars and not very good for others. So you tend to race only with those cars you are able to drive and avoid the others.
- So-so graphics (to be fair, everything looks so-so when compared to GT-S).

I played demo of Project CARS 2. Definitely diffrent and more difficult on a controller. And penalties that forces me to go to pit. Maybe it's true that GT Sport is a simcade, beacuse it's more accesible on a controller and more user-friendly when comes to assist settings. By the way my limit for the assist are TCS on 2, ABS on Standard and automatic transmission, I cant control car with TCS 1 or 0 without sliding on corners. Speaking about Forza Motorsport, there was a time that I thought that FM4 is still better than 7

@Brego PC version of Forza 7 doesnt need a subscription to play online beacuse online on PC is free.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Pizza sucks. Lasagna is delicious. Pizza is like unfinished Lasagna.

That pretty much sums up the discussion on GT Sport Versus (enter whatever here).

I have my disappointments about GT Sport, but at the same time, I play it every friggin day like I have an addiction.

People want weather, but why? If I'm at a real track and it starts raining, no one wants to go out for that session. Rain looks pretty in pictures, but that's about where it ends. It sucks to play in a game as much as it sucks in reality.

My biggest gripe is the lack of curated online play. Al there is to Sport Mode is those three races, when it could be so much more. Heck, why not even mimic one or two of the league events on a weekly basis? change it up!

 

[Scaff]

People want weather, but why? If I'm at a real track and it starts raining, no one wants to go out for that session. Rain looks pretty in pictures, but that's about where it ends. It sucks to play in a game as much as it sucks in reality.

It adds a massive challenge in terms of driving and with dynamic weather also strategy.

What sucks for you is enjoyable for others

 

[Victoria H]

Being the casual racer I am, I'd love to play Forza Horizon 4 as it look super fun, but I don't have a gaming capable PC nor I'm buying an XBOX only to play one game, as I don't have interest in any other Microsoft exclusives.

I don't know much about FM7 other than it has a great car selection. So no comment about this one.

I've tried the PC2 demo too and hated it. As you said, it feels very hard to drive if you're playing with a controller.

As for GT Sport, I don't think it was a wrong choice for me. I really enjoy it and I say this as someone who is largely not interested in competitive online racing, in other words, outside of the game's supposed target demographic. Custom races and the livery editor are a great addition to the franchise, plus it's the best looking console racer right now, and it feels very accessible for the more casual player and DS4 users.

My issues with GTS are mostly related to content. Coming from GT6, I still think the game lacks a lot when it comes to car and track count (though with the free updates, things are getting much better), but it just feels great to play. Surely, an extensive RPG-like career mode with challenging AI would be awesome, but as of now, I can definitely say I'm satisfied with the game.

 

[Mati_Blaster]

My issues with GTS are mostly related to content. Coming from GT6, I still think the game lacks a lot when it comes to car and track count

Maybe we have lack of content but this is high-quality content. No standard and premium cars, no simple interiors, no copy-paste-scale from PS2, every single car looks perfect. One more update and the game will have 100 GB of space