Is Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus Coming to GT Sport? It Depends on the Price...

[LotusEvoraGTE]

Last time I remember the only video games SCG have shown up in are Assetto Corsa (with the 003 Competizione, I believe?) and some mobile games (CSR2 and Trash-phalt 9).

To be honest the 003C and S are on my most wanted list of cars I'd like to see in an AAA console/PC racer but after this article showed up I'm starting to have even more doubts about them ever showing up at all...

 

[ScottPuss20]

So this answers the question as to why the P4/5 Competition hasn't shown up yet, despite being scanned a few years ago.

 

[TonyJZX]

No manufacturer needs Gran Turismo... Kia arent in it and they are doing fine.

Suffice to say SCG dont need any game.

The way I look at it, I think how does having SCG (or Kia ) in it benefit me?

LOok at it like that and you will see if any manufacturer in the game makes a difference to you.

eg. I Personally dont have any great feeling for Lotus so I dont miss them. FOr the greater good they should be there but this game could sunset and it wouldnt bother me if they never made it.

As far as SCG goes I dont think it matters, they're not after mass market acceptance, nor would they care and I guess most GT fans wouldnt miss them, nor would there cars fit into the game classifications as well as they should (granted this is mainly PD's fault).

So allround no great loss for anyone, PD, SCG or us.

I would feel the same way about Fittipaldi or that Brabham BT50 or that Indian supercar.

Now Koeniggegg... that's something else.

 

[PSN offapple]

The only brand peer that in GT Sport already that comes to mind is Pagani.

But yeah...

b0$$ can I habe Glickenhaus PLIS?!!!
*Internal screaming*

 

[Sander 001]

Honestly, if I was a car company I’d be saying to every game publisher that came on by “Take all our crap for free!” and profit from the free advertising. But that’s just me.

Snooty track rights holders like Spa, and car manufacturers like Lotus and James Cameron here really having nothing to loose so I have no idea why they keep trying to demand these crazy-high costs for licensing.

If this somehow magically happens though, I don’t see the Ferrari P4/5 coming in either form because Ferrari hates this guy.

Porsche’s exclusive licensing deal with EA was costing them mindshare in younger gens; they were eager to for it to finish!

 

[TexRex]

that Indian supercar

 

[MistaHalfBits]

I would absolutely love having these two beauties in Gran Turismo Sport for the sole purpose of spending hours admiring em in photo mode.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Jim wanting his brand to finally be treated like a proper player in the business is absolutely okay.
I want SCG in GT more than any other brand, but it's understandable that they want to be treated equally.

 

[SestoScudo]

I hope they agree a deal!!!

Its good to see Glickenhaus actually challenging the status quo by doing motorsport while Pagani and Keonigsegg im looking at you.

 

[McLaren]

As pointed out previously, Glickenhaus doesn't need GT to get himself out there. He's already doing it on his own. His name became famous in the auto-industry for the P4/5 and he's built his company's reputation on the back of the SCG003 which has been well-received. So the folks who think he has "nothing to lose" or would just willingly give up their brand to Gran Turismo for free is laughable. The odds of James getting any orders because someone saw his car in a game is incredibly low; GT's market is not James' market (high chance James' has more potential buyers from his time in the film industry).

So what James & all of you get to lose is the ability to create immediate revenue for licensing rights whilst GT walks away with your creations with nothing but pure profit. There's a reason why every major manufacturer isn't giving away their cars for free when they could easily go on, missing out on the money generated by a license agreement & just hope instead the money comes in from someone buying a car because of a video game....

 

[Tired Tyres]

Last time I remember the only video games SCG have shown up in are Assetto Corsa (with the 003 Competizione, I believe?) and some mobile games (CSR2 and Trash-phalt 9).

To be honest the 003C and S are on my most wanted list of cars I'd like to see in an AAA console/PC racer but after this article showed up I'm starting to have even more doubts about them ever showing up at all...

Both the 003C, easily my favourite GT3 type in the game, and the P4/5 competizione 2011 are in Assetto Corsa.

 

[Northstar]

Pagani and Keonigsegg im looking at you.

It's quite a bit easier to delve into the deep end of developing your own ground-up racing program when the car company is just a side project like SCG is (or was). Granted I would certainly love to see both re-start their motorsports programs, but at the same time can't blame them for putting motorsports aside for the time being.

 

[SestoScudo]

It's quite a bit easier to delve into the deep end of developing your own ground-up racing program when the car company is just a side project like SCG is (or was). Granted I would certainly love to see both re-start their motorsports programs, but at the same time can't blame them for putting motorsports aside for the time being.

Keonigsegg actually came so close to joining GT1 with the CCGT. Such a shame it never materalised.

Pagani and Keonigsegg what they achieved in the automotive industry deserves so much respect and credit where its due to them especially as a Ferrari fan, Pagani has made both Ferrari and Lamborghini have a run for their money. Horacio Pagani worked at Lamborghini who would ever thought a ex employee would take on his former company.

 

[TamasToth]

I've got problems to treat that Glickenhaus-thing as a car manufacturer (of any kind, be it "boutique" or flea market) - but that's not interesting.
But I really like the idea (when the flea coughs), so if it will be ever included, I'm open to lap in it - for a fair hourly fee.

 

[AlanH49]

No manufacturer needs Gran Turismo... Kia arent in it and they are doing fine.

Suffice to say SCG dont need any game.

The way I look at it, I think how does having SCG (or Kia ) in it benefit me?

LOok at it like that and you will see if any manufacturer in the game makes a difference to you.

eg. I Personally dont have any great feeling for Lotus so I dont miss them. FOr the greater good they should be there but this game could sunset and it wouldnt bother me if they never made it.

As far as SCG goes I dont think it matters, they're not after mass market acceptance, nor would they care and I guess most GT fans wouldnt miss them, nor would there cars fit into the game classifications as well as they should (granted this is mainly PD's fault).

So allround no great loss for anyone, PD, SCG or us.

I would feel the same way about Fittipaldi or that Brabham BT50 or that Indian supercar.

Now Koeniggegg... that's something else.

What if Glickenhaus win Le Mans in 2021 - or any subsequent year.

Given it’s very likely we’ll get the Toyota and Aston Martin Hypercars. Wouldn’t it be strange to be missing one of the other major players for overall Le Mans and WEC wins?

The Glickenhaus range, current and future, fits exactly into Gran Turismo’s class structure. With cars for Gr.1, Gr.3, Gr.4. Plus road car examples.

Some boutique brands do come and go. But Glickenhaus strikes me as a road car brand that will stick around like Pagani & Koeniggegg. Plus they are building a race pedigree like other great independents Chaparral & Panoz. But with the potential to make an even bigger impact on the motorsport world.

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

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*infinite facepalms*

 

[McLaren]

Keonigsegg actually came so close to joining GT1 with the CCGT. Such a shame it never materalised.

Pagani and Keonigsegg what they achieved in the automotive industry deserves so much respect and credit where its due to them especially as a Ferrari fan, Pagani has made both Ferrari and Lamborghini have a run for their money. Horacio Pagani worked at Lamborghini who would ever thought a ex employee would take on his former company.

Same people who probably never thought their own consumer and a tractor builder would take on their company.

 

[Glickenhaus]

If you want to see what it's like to drive a Glickenhaus around The Ring here you go:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.to...lickenhaus-scg003-destroy-nurburgring-633?amp

 

[Supaboost]

More would care about a certain gen civic Si being in the game then this.

neither one needs the other, still seeing their car in a game that sells millions wouldn't hurt get the brand out further in the verse.

 

[queleuleu]

I hope they'll find a middle ground but IMO it looks pretty ugly for Poly. First Lotus, now Glickenhaus. Poly is under budgeted or too agressive? I've never heard this kind of story when it comes to Forza.

 

[TonyJZX]

MS probably just pay because why not? They're made of money. And their directive has always been "700+ cars".

I do agree the Lotus and Spa thing is pretty amazing however the hill I would die upon wouldnt be with SCG... even if they won Le Mans in the debut year for them AND the series. I suppose Brawn happened so why not?

 

[TexRex]

*infinite facepalms*

That bad, huh?

 

[Cytoria]

I've never heard this kind of story when it comes to Forza.

Forza Horizon 4 car pass include 49 cars for $29,99. Half the price of the game for 10% more cars might be enough to pay some royalties, while GT updates are free so far.

 

[Famine]

Seems a lost opportunity for both parties but mostly for Glickenhaus to be honest. Gran Turismo doesn't need Glickenhaus, but Glickenhaus may benefit from exposure, unless they want to to continue building 13 cars a year, ie not grow

Glickenhaus doesn't have any particular need to grow - so long as it stays under 325 cars a year, it gets quite a few breaks from NHTSA on things like crash testing and emissions. Full road homolgation is expensive too.

In the meantime it's got a racing heritage to build and sell 003 and, by 2021, 007 to customer race teams. Even with 004, Boot, and 007 in production next year, it's not expecting to break 50 cars.

 

[Glickenhaus]

When Tesla wants to set a Ring Record they use a SCG Driver.
Kaz is a friend.
One day we'll sort this.

 

[MIE1992]

delete

 

[SestoScudo]

I hope they'll find a middle ground but IMO it looks pretty ugly for Poly. First Lotus, now Glickenhaus. Poly is under budgeted or too agressive? I've never heard this kind of story when it comes to Forza.

Because Pd is backed by Sony like Forza is backed by MS. A lot of these car manufacturers use this as a way to get more money from them because Sony and MS have no problem paying for just about anything.

Pd is not underbudgeted it just wants the best deal rather than paying and giving the other party everything it wants.

 

[Bloodytears]

I want to see SCG003 in game, but honestly want PD to not overpay. Lotus isn't the right manufacturer to compare with SCG, and really should be treated with respect and fair royalty. How much SCG can give to the game to ask for an equal right among with all presented in game brands. This sounds slightly rude from Glickenhaus.

 

[TonyJZX]

I think most of us are on the side of PD here... I do agree that PD shouldnt be kissing the asses of any upstart just to get 'content' to appease people.

You have the situation where you have 700 cars and yet...

I say again what does this brand bring to the average GT audience?

To go back... if you pick a brand like Kia for example... how many people care that Kia arent here? Is the Kia fanbase enough to court? Is there brand loyalty that is beneiftial to both Kia and PD?

You can ask this about any brand and any game. Flip this to Toyota and western games?

To me many of the niche car companies just dont have the global audience that matters.

The flip side is that we see enough of Pagani and Koeniggegg on YT and on popular motoring media that it justifies game prescence. Others not so much.

 

[ed24]

I know it isn't everything but I think if we look at global production/sales the Korean market is certainly under-represented in the series, so I would like to see some more Hyundais (perhaps the i30 - TCR Gr.4 version would be even better - or even just the Veloster that got scanned a few years back) and some Kias.