It's now March; where is our promised community update?

[Mulan]

the game is cheap (meaning its cheap to buy now) and reading what ordinary people write on review is like :
- better: it got more cars and tracks
- negative: sound still lousy, fps drops, sunday driving feel, no action, no speed, bad ai

 

[Griffith500]

If you want my cash then then I am involved , but u best have better communication than pd and u best follow through with your plans. If not I'll ditch you like a used tampon too

Well that's pleasant. I wasn't even offering. I'm alluding to a system of patronage, which is well suited to games.

WHAT are you even on about dude. This has nothing to do with race or whatever you are talking about its about good game design and PD is just not playing with a full deck in that department. they NEED help.
Using your words I would say that PD needs to "embrace the world".

Those weren't my words. What I'm saying is: stop thinking you can force people to your will. Encourage other developers to make the game you want instead (including the kind of help you believe PD "need") and leave PD to their fate, whatever it may be.

 

[Johnnypenso]

"Embrace the world and we will embrace you"

Last I checked, Japan is in the world - perhaps you should embrace them. This attitude smacks of "bend to my will", "you've had your day". Eurocentrism is truly deeply rooted (and that applies to Americans, north or south, for obvious reasons).

Here here Skip to 2:00 for those in a hurry

 

[Devil240Z]

Well that's pleasant. I wasn't even offering. I'm alluding to a system of patronage, which is well suited to games.

Those weren't my words. What I'm saying is: stop thinking you can force people to your will. Encourage other developers to make the game you want instead (including the kind of help you believe PD "need") and leave PD to their fate, whatever it may be.

That is a terrible outlook to have. would you not attempt avert a disaster or save someones life? You would rather watch terrible things happen needlessly? I for one cant just sit back and watch GT die a slow agonizing death.
Maybe you watch too much startrek cause the Prime Directive does not apply here on earth.

 

[4everdelayed]

the game is cheap (meaning its cheap to buy now) and reading what ordinary people write on review is like :
- better: it got more cars and tracks
- negative: sound still lousy, fps drops, sunday driving feel, no action, no speed, bad ai

I really think that, except fps drops, these negatives would be easily outweighed if they fix the online bugs and bring back shuffle.

Still no update... oh well...

 

[Griffith500]

@Johnnypenso Well, I'm not proselytising to that degree, but I just think we have a responsibility to encourage diversity in games development, because it'll benefit us all.

I see that GT is a nice big, established target - they're making a game already, let's see if we can "make it better". But I won't go over to the CoD forums and start demanding whichever dev team is currently in control to start adding the features I dream of, in terms of game design.

I'm much more likely to scour Kickstarter, or Greenlight, or whatever structures may spring up in their wake (they're not quite effective for what I'm thinking of). The currently apparently demanding nature of players, though, will continue to discourage developments in that area, because it'll seem like too much to take on.


@Devil240Z PD will survive without my concern, or they will just as well "die" with it. It doesn't matter anyway, they're just games. I think what you fear more is not getting what you personally want. That's where my idea comes into play: offer your patronage, band together with like-minded people, and forge your own path.

It's not about "not interfering" - you don't shout at the Fanta tap for not giving you Coke. If GT isn't what you want it to be, you can't force it to change if it doesn't want to. In that sense, you really must look elsewhere, for your own benefit if nothing else. GT will be fine without you, promise.

 

[pakiman740]

Are some people seriously never going to buy another GT game again just because an update wasn't released on time? Are we just going to forget the years of support GT5 got and the free content being given out for GT6? Sure I agree that this is annoying and communication is a serious issue, other than online only games, I can't think of any other game that got as much support as GT5 did. (Especially on consoles)

I just find it strange that some people are never going to play a GT game again just because a February update isn't here yet despite still being in February?

I'm pretty sure it was gt5 and then more like years of waiting. Nice try though

It makes me so sad to hear everyone talk about their terrible experiences while waiting for the updates, and leaving the GT series. Personally I have had fun online every night since I first purchased GT5P.

GT6 online still needs a lot of work, but GT5's online wasn't much better at launch.

PSN friends are the key to a good online experience. If you have lots of friends that like to race the way you do, it will always be easy to start the game and join a room with a friend.

Hopefully shuffle races and better lobby information will return soon, but in the mean time I will continue having fun with the GT6 I have.

right nobody is going off on them about how their online wasn't that bad its just a promised community features and without it online can become quite Boring

What's unfinished about Gran Turismo 6?

this post hurt my head

 

[vasiliflame]

@Johnnypenso Well, I'm not proselytising to that degree, but I just think we have a responsibility to encourage diversity in games development, because it'll benefit us all.

I see that GT is a nice big, established target - they're making a game already, let's see if we can "make it better". But I won't go over to the CoD forums and start demanding whichever dev team is currently in control to start adding the features I dream of, in terms of game design.

I'm much more likely to scour Kickstarter, or Greenlight, or whatever structures may spring up in their wake (they're not quite effective for what I'm thinking of). The currently apparently demanding nature of players, though, will continue to discourage developments in that area, because it'll seem like too much to take on.


@Devil240Z PD will survive without my concern, or they will just as well "die" with it. It doesn't matter anyway, they're just games. I think what you fear more is not getting what you personally want. That's where my idea comes into play: offer your patronage, band together with like-minded people, and forge your own path.

It's not about "not interfering" - you don't shout at the Fanta tap for not giving you Coke. If GT isn't what you want it to be, you can't force it to change if it doesn't want to. In that sense, you really must look elsewhere, for your own benefit if nothing else. GT will be fine without you, promise.

But if you paid for coke and got fanta you be shouting at that tap , I wanted coke not fanta. Thing is I bought gt6 for features I haven't got so your within your right to ask for them features to be implemented or at least some recognition them features are coming.


I see nobody asking for features that polyphony digital haven't said there comming on gt6 the simple thing is we want the features that were advertised and pushed very hard within the run up o release . We want what was advertised nothing more nothing less

 

[pakiman740]

You guys should tweet Shuhei Yoshida, president of worldwide studios and a board member (director) of Polypony Digital. He manages first party production, which includes PD. Since there is no community manager and Penrose Tackie, who usually post GT related news on the official blog doesnt have a twitter, I see no other person to contact. Here is his twitter: https://twitter.com/yosp

Shuhei is pretty active on twitter and responds even to feedback that isn't all happy feelings and flowers. If there is anyone who can get things going, it's him. Send a tweet asking where the community features update(s) for GT6 are. Let's make some noise and maybe we at least can get some semi-inofficial "I'll look into it" or something of the sort!

not at all that's just going to far even for me this is a form were we can come in and vent and give our suggestions but to tweet Them is a little too much

Hype generated by the community by pure speculation with zero source and they're disappointed.

I don't think its the fact that the update didn't come like I said earlier there was no indication it's just that the current state of the game after so many years of development and then even a few months after

 

[Griffith500]

@vasiliflame you paid for what you got. This issue isn't new to GT6. As for the missing features, you knew they weren't in the game, you took that gamble with no assurance, no time frame and PD's "reputation" etched firmly in your mind. I'm not advocating this as sound business practice, I'm as frustrated as anyone else, but you're not really helping yourself.

@pakiman740 use the edit button to add more to an existing post, rather than "double-posting" (which is generally frowned upon here). To reply to more than one post, click reply on each one and they'll appear in the text box. You might need to copy paste to get the behaviour you want.

 

[eSZee]

So Shirrako? What happened?

And this is what happens when we take the word of someone seeking attention.

 

[pakiman740]

You think it takes three months to add these features?

GTPlanet, it cries, it says a lot of blah blah, but you know nothing. Just see your reaction anyway.

In fact, official site doesn't mention any date for updates, good luck if you want to attack PoDi on justice.

oh come on you honestly believe they only started working on them when the game was released they have been working on them for years now and not having them it's just un acceptable

@vasiliflame you paid for what you got. This issue isn't new to GT6. As for the missing features, you knew they weren't in the game, you took that gamble with no assurance, no time frame and PD's "reputation" etched firmly in your mind. I'm not advocating this as sound business practice, I'm as frustrated as anyone else, but you're not really helping yourself.

@pakiman740 use the edit button to add more to an existing post, rather than "double-posting" (which is generally frowned upon here). To reply to more than one post, click reply on each one and they'll appear in the text box. You might need to copy paste to get the behaviour you want.

yes my Bad I don't really know how to use the site that well on my phone

 

[forzaturismo]

I really think that, except fps drops, these negatives would be easily outweighed if they fix the online bugs and bring back shuffle.

Still no update... oh well...
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[vasiliflame]

@vasiliflame you paid for what you got. This issue isn't new to GT6. As for the missing features, you knew they weren't in the game, you took that gamble with no assurance, no time frame and PD's "reputation" etched firmly in your mind. I'm not advocating this as sound business practice, I'm as frustrated as anyone else, but you're not really helping yourself.

@pakiman740 use the edit button to add more to an existing post, rather than "double-posting" (which is generally frowned upon here). To reply to more than one post, click reply on each one and they'll appear in the text box. You might need to copy paste to get the behaviour you want.

You are very misguided. They printed it in the game manual so I want my features if I bought a house and they said top floor will be comming later and didn't give me a eta.

O well I bought a house and got a bungalow but its ok , I knew that said it will come later but could be tomorrow or never , u be down to see a solicitor straight away .... Thease features are a part of gt6 as advertised and they haven't fulfilled on features. Fact is we are in the dark which leads to stupid arguments like this , I ain't the type to be walked all over. I will stand up and be counted. Voice your concerns and you should be addressed. When its all said and done this is all about cash without us they be nothing. The people pay you the people make you famous but we can also destroy you and make you fall from grace when riled up. The majority control the minority I am afraid your views are archaic like the dinoursaurs

 

[4everdelayed]

Are some people seriously never going to buy another GT game again just because an update wasn't released on time? Are we just going to forget the years of support GT5 got and the free content being given out for GT6? Sure I agree that this is annoying and communication is a serious issue, other than online only games, I can't think of any other game that got as much support as GT5 did. (Especially on consoles)

I just find it strange that some people are never going to play a GT game again just because a February update isn't here yet despite still being in February?

The issue here is that PD seems to be eager to release GT7 as soon as possible. It's only natural that we expect them to divert resources that should be dedicated to the updates of GT6 to the development of GT7. This is very likely to happen.

I think it's rather sad that PD (and others) have forgotten about borrowing money from banks/markets to invest in the development of a game. Instead, they fund their projects with our money by releasing a half finished game and promise us that it will get updated. Lots of people are sensing that they are the ones bearing the risk and the result of that will show in future sales of Gran Turismo.

 

[Jose Mendonca]

You think it takes three months to add these features?

GTPlanet, it cries, it says a lot of blah blah, but you know nothing. Just see your reaction anyway.

In fact, official site doesn't mention any date for updates, good luck if you want to attack PoDi on justice.

If you do your job properly, then yes. And yes, I'm a software developer, so I'm not talking from my ass.
Furthermore some features were supposedly almost ready for delivery. Now if your using your time with movies and race competitions and what not, then not even three years will be enough.

 

[Mulan]

@Johnnypenso Well, I'm not proselytising to that degree, but I just think we have a responsibility to encourage diversity in games development, because it'll benefit us all.

I see that GT is a nice big, established target - they're making a game already, let's see if we can "make it better". But I won't go over to the CoD forums and start demanding whichever dev team is currently in control to start adding the features I dream of, in terms of game design.

I'm much more likely to scour Kickstarter, or Greenlight, or whatever structures may spring up in their wake (they're not quite effective for what I'm thinking of). The currently apparently demanding nature of players, though, will continue to discourage developments in that area, because it'll seem like too much to take on.

Well look at EA and battlefield 4,
they write what they fix in updates, they give players opportunity to vote on changes and reply what they think of different player demands. Then they are active on the forums. At least PD can actually take time to respond to what ia going on with the features they promissed. GT planet weekly rewimd can put in a "We asked PD" section where such questions can be asked as one voice.

 

[vasiliflame]

27 pages 798 posts could have been avoided with one word
Communication

Is that too much to ask from a massive multi billion pound company

 

[TurismoBad]

The question is : Is PD completing the coding of several things to release them together or they only have one thing almost ready with the rest in early stages. The latter would mean the end of the year to see it all.

That is what I would like to know. Maybe we can ask the infamous "anonymous source" to get us the answer for that ?

That is provided he's not a pizza delivery boy.

 

[vasiliflame]

The question is : Is PD completing the coding of several things to release them together or they only have one thing almost ready with the rest in early stages. The latter would mean the end of the year to see it all.

That is what I would like to know. Maybe we can ask the infamous "anonymous source" to get us the answer for that ?

That is provided he's not a pizza delivery boy.

Least the pizza be hot and not cold for waiting for cheese to arrive

 

[mister dog]

Offline racing? GT is already better there IMO. There are no hard races in Forza even for a beginer. You can set the AI to easy, enable auto brake and use rewind as often as you like as well as turn off damage, fuel usage and tire wire in any/all the races.

Weird train of thought you got there; so because people can adjust the game to very easy with assists on if they wish, there are no hard races? Try the event list with all aids off and sim steering in FM4 and you'll realize the races against the AI are quite challenging indeed. Even the career mode is a bit more challenging. GT has the worst, most artificial and easiest offline racing of any racing game nowadays. This whole start from the back and chase the rabbit thing is just a smokescreen to cover that up a little.

What other games? There really is not any other game that compares to GT and FM right now. Shift and Grid are not even close.

Depends on your priorities. For car collecting and physic purposes i would agree, but if you want tight racing there are many alternatives available that do offer that particular fun factor people seek.

 

[4everdelayed]

27 pages 798 posts could have been avoided by with one word

Communication

Absolutely. Naughty Dog is a bit different in that aspect. They did videos explaining the online maps, the easter eggs, etc. And when they bring an update, they explain in great details what they did.

I don't know if it's a cultural thing, but for us in the west, no communication is also a form of communication and it usually is not a good sign. Could be wrong but yeah...

 

[OdeFinn]

And this is one is potentially damaging to your PS3 system:
- multiple screen freezes, which result in the user having to power off the console, only to be presented with the Hard Drive restore function once the power is restored.

Will damage on some cases when using SSD, like mine it corrupts my SSD's Firmware, luckily it was under warranty and I get replacement from dealer.
- Sudden power loss = possibility to corrupt Firmware.

 

[Nielsen]

PD promises a lot of features that still are nowhere to be seen, and then Kaz releases a movie about himself. Is he serious?

 

[Raggadish]

not at all that's just going to far even for me this is a form were we can come in and vent and give our suggestions but to tweet Them is a little too much

So we should make a forum post here on GTplanet which gets swallowed up by all the complainers instead of sending a kindly worded tweet to someone who have actual say when it comes to PD? Gotcha.

 

[vasiliflame]

I wonder what kaz's personal gt6 is like? Because he ain't playing the same game as us I bet he has hundreds of Porsches that's why we're delayed because the team is building his own personal game... Well probably not but 100% I bet he has 911 in his game..

Just a mad ramble don't take this serious

 

[Griffith500]

You are very misguided. They printed it in the game manual so I want my features if I bought a house and they said top floor will be comming later and didn't give me a eta.

O well I bought a house and got a bungalow but its ok , I knew that said it will come later but could be tomorrow or never , u be down to see a solicitor straight away .... Thease features are a part of gt6 as advertised and they haven't fulfilled on features. Fact is we are in the dark which leads to stupid arguments like this , I ain't the type to be walked all over. I will stand up and be counted. Voice your concerns and you should be addressed. When its all said and done this is all about cash without us they be nothing. The people pay you the people make you famous but we can also destroy you and make you fall from grace when riled up. The majority control the minority I am afraid your views are archaic like the dinoursaurs

Wow. That is not how democracy is meant to work, it is meant to represent everyone, not just the "majority" (every majority in one aspect contains minorities in others, remember; living in Wales, you should get that). Minorities have just as much right to exist and have access to nice things as anyone else, what a hideous attitude to hold in a completely non-essential area of life, let alone something that actually matters.

The lack of features is annoying, I agree. I just think you need to accept some responsibility for your own choices ("fool me once..."), and actively try to prevent your own disappointment, aside from trying to intimidate others through force ("majority rule") - nice power trip, also. Good luck tearing those GT banners down, I guess, if that's what you need to do.

Well look at EA and battlefield 4,
they write what they fix in updates, they give players opportunity to vote on changes and reply what they think of different player demands. Then they are active on the forums. At least PD can actually take time to respond to what ia going on with the features they promissed. GT planet weekly rewimd can put in a "We asked PD" section where such questions can be asked as one voice.

But the features I would want in such a game don't get a sniff of attention in such an environment. I don't mind that it exists, I think it's great, actually. I don't think it should mean the death of individual tastes being catered for, just because a few big games are designed by committee. But what you say still doesn't stop a lot of people being disappointed with BF4, as I said, mostly people wanting it to be a continuation / expansion of BF2 (which I would probably fall under). Who do you choose to please?

Remember, I have money, too, despite being a minority. I'll give it to whomever will make the game I want, but I don't feel the need to shout at the BF4 guys for not staying with the BF2 route instead of trying to compete with CoD.

 

[KinLM]

PD promises a lot of features that still are nowhere to be seen, and then Kaz releases a movie about himself. Is he serious?

I STILL have yet to see the word 'promise' ever used by PD. Silly impatient people who think they're entitled to everything.

And as if the documentary of Kaz has anything to do with the release of DLC.

 

[Madertus]

Absolutely. Naughty Dog is a bit different in that aspect. They did videos explaining the online maps, the easter eggs, etc. And when they bring an update, they explain in great details what they did.

I don't know if it's a cultural thing, but for us in the west, no communication is also a form of communication and it usually is not a good sign. Could be wrong but yeah...

Couldn't have said that better myself 👍 I can't come up with any valid reason why would a company not even use its facebook page for game-related announcements.

I don't know why PD won't even release anything like patch notes on the official site. Hell, I can't even come up with a reason why would any company not do this...

So we should make a forum post here on GTplanet which gets swallowed up by all the complainers instead of sending a kindly worded tweet to someone who have actual say when it comes to PD? Gotcha.

No, we shouldn't do anything because they'd feed us with the same crap again, something along the lines of "we're working on it", "in a future update maybe".

 

[CJSpencer77]

What other games? There really is not any other game that compares to GT and FM right now. Shift and Grid are not even close.

Bottom line is how much do you like your racing sims?
Personally I only put any serious time into racing sims, im not that bothered about other titles.
So for not a lot more cash you can get a Pc instead of a Ps4, Xbox1 then you have access to titles that knock the spots off GT and FM. Such as :

Assetto Corsa
Project Cars
RFactor2

Let me put it this way I run a league www.TheAutomotiveMayhem.com and so far 13 of our members have had enough of PDs broken game/promises and are in the process of buying gaming pc's, the fact alone that we still cant make pit stops properly without lag or changed grip is enough without all the other issues of pd not honouring thier promises.

We will miss GTs community, we will not miss the non stop bugs and problems.