Kazunori Yamauchi Responds to Gran Turismo 7 Fan Outrage

[Johnnn]

What's MC? Also coincidentally I did make this failure of this "change my view" thread about whether loot boxes for which you cannot pay any money for are regulatable or not.

Metacritic, you can check the score for any game and GT7 is not that good for now.

Casino mechanics are probably always bad in racing sim. If you like casino, just go there. Funny thing is it's less rigged than GT7 because of the law. Some games are built around this but you know it before. I think Diablo 2 was completely based around pleasure from random stuff. I don't play that non-sense and don't want it in any racing game.

 

[Lomic]

This is conspiratorial speculation that shouldn't be entertained by anyone.

Sure, no one at PD did anything to push MTX in the game. I don't mind if it is your opinion.

Now can you tell us how the other people that don't share your views can express the way they feel about this to PD and Sony ?

 

[stpatty]

This is conspiratorial speculation that shouldn't be entertained by anyone. People who already despise microtransactions with a fervent hatred (why? Just don't look in the store) will find a reason to hate them wherever they're present.

But there is a difference between microtransactions being present and ruining a game, or a game being cooked to sell them. I implore you to try a f2p grind model game like Warframe and then come back to me and complain that gran turismo throws it in your face; there is barely a screen in that game without a "skip this for 30pl" button - most of which you can readily accidentally press.

Context is everything, and there's no reasonable context in which GT7 is a 1/10 game, therefore reviewbombing is dumb and says far more about the reviewer than the game. In my opinion.

(this post was after mine and I don't know how to merge)

You are much smarter than saying "just don't look at microtransactions"

Every time you win credits from tickets in GT7 - which is almost always a tiny amount - you're hit with the screen which also says "Top-up on PlayStation Store". Microtransactions wouldn't exist if the game had an economy which made all cars/parts/paints/etc. available in a reasonable amount of time from completing all of the game's content, which GT7 doesn't. In this context the option of paying real money to unlock things is deliberately designed to prey on people susceptible to that whether they're impatient or compulsive:



For a game which constantly pushes car collection as something to aim for and has social media-style pop-ups from Sarah telling you to collect cars, the option of being able to spend real money to do that is disgusting. The only possible defence is that the prices of it are so ludicrous that they might not even be that tempting, but that's not really an excuse.

 

[Tornado]

A lot of this smells of entitlement to me and defending review bombing as a practice is also laughable as games/devs are review bombed for the stupidest of reasons 99% of the time

That's nice. Are you saying that the two specific issues that are overwhelmingly mentioned in most of the bad user reviews (and as such is what most of the reporting on the issue is being about) is part of that 99%?

Sums things up perfectly, a lot of takes are abandoned immediately after release, GTSport had lots of free updated that massively expanded that title and people still complained bectthe exact thing they wanted wasn't added.

"PD giving them tons of some other thing should mean they should just shut up."

People just need to grow up, there's way bigger problems in the world but "Video game bad" is apparently the worst of them?

I'm sure the money from the microtransactions is going straight to the Ukrainian war effort, you're right.

What annoys me is the instant vitriol and readiness to throw GT7 in the bin over what in context are largely a bunch of unfortunate coincidences beyond the developer's control.

Yes, microtransactions accidentally got into the game (so much of an accident that they are completely absent from other Sony titles), their price accidentally was raised massively over the previous games that had them, the game economy was accidentally structured the way it was, the car prices accidentally got raised so massively over previous titles with several of them accidentally getting tied to real world prices (but only when you go to buy them, at which point they are completely worthless by accident), event prices for the ones singled out as the fastest way to earn money were accidentally lowered, and the laughable idea of an always-online single player game accidentally had the same problem that virtually every game that has had that sort of thing happened to it.

On top of this we have Kaz directly appealing to the playerbase with pretty fulfilling info as to what went wrong, an outline of his vision for the game and an assurance that they see what's wrong (with the economy) and better things are on the way.

No, he didn't. He brought up and then ignored the main point of contention, he said that something may be coming in the future could theoretically fix things, defended the costs of items in the game and told people that he didn't want people to grind the game to get things while actively taking steps to make that aspect of the game even worse than it already was. He poured grease on a fire when keeping his mouth shut like PD usually do whenever they screw something up would have been much better for his PR effort; and at least in the past when he's trotted out those sorts of platitudes (I know you're relatively new here, but he did this several times in the ultimate run up to GT6) that swayed the masses he did it between when he mostly fixed a previous game and was trying to build up hype for one that was coming.





This time he chose exactly the wrong time to try it and he got caught for it.

This is conspiratorial speculation that shouldn't be entertained by anyone.

I've seen a lot more proof of it being the case than I have the opposite from any of the "people reviewbombing the game should shut the hell up and wait like Kaz always says whenever he makes vague promises of something happening" peanut gallery.

People who already despise microtransactions with a fervent hatred (why? Just don't look in the store) will find a reason to hate them wherever they're present.

It's almost as if they are something that go against what people were told was the justification for raising the prices of games this generation, they are inherently exploitative with many things written about how they maximize revenue by preying on vulnerable people and this is a full price AAA game.

 

[Johnnn]

Sure, no one at PD did anything to push MTX in the game. I don't mind if it is your opinion.

Now can you tell us how the other people that don't share your views can express the way they feel about this to PD and Sony ?

LOL, MTXs ruined the game but they didn't want it. Just a coincidence they added it.

 

[Scaff]

I see it, and I hear you, my point stepping into this thread has only ever been to express a hearty disdain for reviewbombing as a practice and try to point out some reasons I don't think it's an apportioned response to the game in its current state.

It doesn't in the slightest annoy me that people don't like the game I like; I have hundreds and hundreds of hours in dirt 4, the very mention of which is enough to make the skin crawl to many rally inclined gamers.

What annoys me is the instant vitriol and readiness to throw GT7 in the bin over what in context are largely a bunch of unfortunate coincidences beyond the developer's control.

I feel that, already feeling the sting of some wonky rear axle behaviour, the limited campaign and the very thin initial multiplayer (lobbies are the biggest issue in the game and it's insane how little this is mentioned particularly here), a lot of the playerbase took the 1.07/1.08 issues as their final straw, but when we really look at these issues I think that's quite unfortunate; because of the Kaz quote I've picked out of the letter, I really do think the current payout imbalance is temporary, and the other big issue was the server outage which really was unrelated to everything.

On top of this we have Kaz directly appealing to the playerbase with pretty fulfilling info as to what went wrong, an outline of his vision for the game and an assurance that they see what's wrong (with the economy) and better things are on the way.

I'm not sure I would class the bulk of what's happened as "a bunch of unfortunate coincidences beyond the developer's control", with the exception of the server outage, the rest are all design choices and situations well within the developer's control, as such holding them to account for them is more than reasonable. Even the server outage issue was significantly exacerbated by a design choice made by PD (and alternatives do exist that could be used to 95%+ on-line).

The letter from Kaz I don't view in the same way you do entirely, it is good to get the assurance that we will be getting more events in the future, but that doesn't remove the fact that it was a design choice to exclude them form launch. His comments about MXT's don't align with releasing a patch that nerfed event payouts, and a refusal to even outline a broad roadmap is at odds with having a plan to resolve this. So while it's good to have the communication, it actually resulted in more questions and very few solid answers.

How at the end of all of this anyone is left with justification to drop a 1/10 review is absolutely beyond me. They, in my opinion, clearly do not care to pay attention to the real situation, and should be returned the same level of attention from PD, Sony and everyone else.

It's a form of protest, one of the very few ways that exist in terms of video games.

They could Bring loan cars like forza motorsport, but buying and building cars should still be a thing becouse its to big of a feature ro throw away, and that really made gt sport useless for roadcars in my opinion they have much more use and pontential in gt7, they just need to sort out the economy and add more events

I agree 100% that buying and modding cars should still be a thing, it's what makes GT, but test drives and even loan cars don't change that. In reality, I have bought exactly zero cars without first test driving them

 

[AudiMan2011]

This is conspiratorial speculation that shouldn't be entertained by anyone. People who already despise microtransactions with a fervent hatred (why? Just don't look in the store) will find a reason to hate them wherever they're present.

But there is a difference between microtransactions being present and ruining a game, or a game being cooked to sell them. I implore you to try a f2p grind model game like Warframe and then come back to me and complain that gran turismo throws it in your face; there is barely a screen in that game without a "skip this for 30pl" button - most of which you can readily accidentally press.

Context is everything, and there's no reasonable context in which GT7 is a 1/10 game, therefore reviewbombing is dumb and says far more about the reviewer than the game. In my opinion.

(Much of this addresses you too @Imari , your post was while I was typing.)

The difference is that Warframe is free to play, GT7 costs upwards of SEVENTY DOLLARS. Look at other games being bogged down with monetisation; Chocobo Racing GP, GTA Online, FIFA, NBA 2K series. Look at those and tell me the predatory grind and exploitative MTX is still a "conspiracy".

 

[Johnnn]

The difference is that Warframe is free to play, GT7 costs upwards of SEVENTY DOLLARS. Look at other games being bogged down with monetisation; Chocobo Racing GP, GTA Online, FIFA, NBA 2K series. Look at those and tell me the predatory grind and exploitative MTX is still a "conspiracy".

You mentioned GTA. I played probably more than 1000 hours in GTA IV and loved it! I played about few hours in GTA V and never played it again. That's how MTXs and game design work to me.

 

[dacc10]

52nd page on this matter, and people are still debating if it's right or wrong?

Do people realise that we can only make 1.7M Cr/hour in the most ideal scenario? This ideal scenario relies on everything going accordingly, like finishing first and having the clean race bonus, every single time. Sounds simple, but a less skilled driver will likely not earn the clean race bonus, and will likely not finish in less than 3:20, which means he will make considerably less money. Then add variables like the PS4 longer loading times, and the grind is a fair bit more difficult.

But even considering just the ideal scenario, of 1.7M per hour, it will take roughly 11h of constant grind to buy one single 18M Cr car. 11h to play, is what many people have available the entire week, should they spend all that time grinding over and over the same event? Because racing the same event over and over for an entire week just to buy a car that may or may not be available in the end of all that grind, is not really fun. And this is just for one legendary car, without spending a single credit on anything else in the meantime. If they multiplied by 3 the Cr earned/hour, it would take nearly 4h of grind, which isn't as bad as the 11h now, for the same car. 4h of gameplay for a single car, is not instant gratification, and is also 3 times less painfull to grind.

Now people might say "but that's why Kaz said he didn't want people to grind the same event over and over". Then make more events that pay a decent amount of Cr, instead of making one single event pay a lot more than any other. If they make 10 events that award roughly 4 million Cr per hour*, grinding wouldn't be as painful, as players would have much more options.

I don't get why the 24 minutes events pay so little. 1M Cr would be so much better (without clean race bonus).

*this sounds like a lot, but the pricing of cars and parts in the game, requires much better payouts.

 

[Adam Barber]

That's nice. Are you saying that the two specific issues that are overwhelmingly mentioned in most of the bad user reviews (and as such is what most of the reporting on the issue is being about) is part of that 99%?



"PD giving them tons of some other thing should mean they should just shut up."


I'm sure the money from the microtransactions is going straight to the Ukrainian war effort, you're right.








Yes, microtransactions accidentally got into the game (so much of an accident that they are completely absent from other Sony titles), their price accidentally was raised massively over the previous games that had them, the game economy was accidentally structured the way it was, the car prices accidentally got raised so massively over previous titles with several of them accidentally getting tied to real world prices (but only when you go to buy them, at which point they are completely worthless by accident), event prices for the ones singled out as the fastest way to earn money were accidentally lowered, and the laughable idea of an always-online single player game accidentally had the same problem that virtually every game that has had that sort of thing happened to it.


No, he didn't. He brought up and then ignored the main point of contention, he said that something may be coming in the future could theoretically fix things, defended the costs of items in the game and told people that he didn't want people to grind the game to get things while actively taking steps to make that aspect of the game even worse than it already was. He poured grease on a fire when keeping his mouth shut like PD usually do whenever they screw something up would have been much better for his PR effort; and at least in the past when he's trotted out those sorts of platitudes (I know you're relatively new here, but he did this several times in the ultimate run up to GT6). that swayed the masses he did it between when he mostly fixed a previous game and was trying to build up hype for one that was coming.





This time he chose exactly the wrong time to try it and he got caught for it.

I've seen a lot more proof of it being the case than I have the opposite from any of the "people reviewbombing the game should shut the hell up and wait like Kaz always says whenever he makes vague promises of something happening" peanut gallery.


It's almost as if they are something that go against what people were told was the justification for raising the prices of games this generation, they are inherently exploitative with many things written about how they maximize revenue by preying on vulnerable people and this is a full price AAA game.

Again, that statement from Kaz tells me that PD are working on the economy/payouts for future updates with more events. All this anger tells me that people have no patience at all and are ultimately being petty because something wasn't exactly how they expected.

 

[Johnnn]

Again, that statement from Kaz tells me that PD are working on the economy/payouts for future updates with more events. All this anger tells me that people have no patience at all and are ultimately being petty because something wasn't exactly how they expected.

Try that in your job then. "Sorry boss, I messed everything but it could be better in the future."

 

[stpatty]

Again, that statement from Kaz tells me that PD are working on the economy/payouts for future updates with more events. All this anger tells me that people have no patience at all and are ultimately being petty because something wasn't exactly how they expected.

How many things do you buy for £60/70 only to find out afterwards that they might be properly functional as intended at some unspecified point in the future, rather than it was released?

 

[MaxAttack]

Warframe is free to play

Said DE, before figuring out if there's a way to lock how many times you can press the circle button in a mission behind a new currency...

No, it's a good point, but I raised Warframe as an example of the microtransactions being right up in your face, only because it's something I've seen said about GT7 in this thread, which I personally just don't think is the case, I have seen far far worse. A lot of people have raised GTA as an example, and I think the ways that game leant on microtransactions for massive profitability are much more plainly visible; especially how much blinking money they've made.

@Scaff reviewbombing is a form of protest yes, but it's a thoroughly crap one and part of a growing narrative of gamers as this always wronged group under the thumb of evil developers as if no one involved in making games has any passion or desire to deliver anything decent; as if no developer is beholden to any kind of commercial, financial pressure, and as if there's never been any attempt to strike any compromise there. How little credit will we give people?

 

[Lomic]

Again, that statement from Kaz tells me that PD are working on the economy/payouts for future updates with more events.

Well, you are a pretty optimistic guy. Because at the same time, they nerfed all payouts that were already not incredible.

Excuse me but I will go and do what seems the only option to express my dismay (with thousands of other impatient toddlers) and review bomb on MC. It works, trust me, it has an effect, already seen news about the issue in mainstream media.

Hopefully the backlash will have a positive impact on PD and Sony.

At worst it would have allowed us to vent our frustration and could serve as a warning for other developers in the future of what players do not like.

reviewbombing is a form of protest yes, but it's a thoroughly crap one

so again, what is your advice on the matter, what should we do instead ? you never answer that question

 

[Scaff]

@Scaff reviewbombing is a form of protest yes, but it's a thoroughly crap one and part of a growing narrative of gamers as this always wronged group under the thumb of evil developers as if no one involved in making games has any passion or desire to deliver anything decent; as if no developer is beholden to any kind of commercial, financial pressure, and as if there's never been any attempt to strike any compromise there. How little credit will we give people?

And the alternative is?

 

[Adam Barber]

Well, you are a pretty optimistic guy. Because at the same time, they nerfed all payouts that were already not incredible.

Excuse me but I will go and what seems the only option to express my dismay (with thousands of other impatient toddlers) and review bomb on MC. It works, trust me, it has an effect, already seen news about the issue in mainstream media.

Hopefully the backlash will have a positive impact on PD and Sony.

At worst it would have allowed us to vent our frustration and could serve as a warning for other developers in the future of what players do not like.

so again, what is your advice on the matter, what should we do instead ? you never answer that question

It was clearly stated in the statement from kaz, couldn't have been more obvious if he'd have tried.

 

[Johnnn]

It was clearly stated in the statement from kaz, couldn't have been more obvious if he'd have tried.

It's about you saying something and doing something else. Kaz is a liar for now. You can't trust him at all.

 

[Lomic]

It was clearly stated in the statement from kaz, couldn't have been more obvious if he'd have tried.

what was clearly stated in the statement ? "there will be content in the future and as a token of trust, we will nerf the already lame payouts"

 

[Adam Barber]

How many things do you buy for £60/70 only to find out afterwards that they might be properly functional as intended at some unspecified point in the future, rather than it was released?

There was that one thing but I'm not saying what it is on GTP

 

[Silver Arrows]

And the alternative is?

This is the ultimate, salient point. What recourse does the community have to go back against the state of the game considering Sony doesn't allow for refunds on their store unless in extraordinary circumstances? What should the community do when the figurehead of the series straight up lies to people's faces and expects it to stick one more time?

 

[Adam Barber]

what was clearly stated in the statement ? "there will be content in the future and as a token of trust, we will nerf the already lame payouts"

Quoted directly from the statement:
"We will in time let you know the update plans for additional content, additional race events and additional features that will constructively resolve this."

 

[MaxAttack]

And the alternative is?

For me personally, if I really felt that stung? Suck it up and be more careful with my money next time, we all buy something we regret at some point I'm sure.

To suggest to the people here? Find a constructive avenue of complaint. Negative feedback shouldn't, of course, be discarded, but it needs to be useful in some way or other if the developer has any chance of righting the wrong. I don't see what about this issue can't be addressed thru more constructive means; let's get our complaints into a unified front that's easily there for PD to see. Let's be fair in our assessment so that while they can see what we don't like, they can also see what we do like and where we want things to head.

What's done is done; a lot of you didn't get the launch you wanted. All there is to be done now is to agree where we want this game to head, and I do feel Kaz has extended that olive branch to us. They are not simply unaware of our complaints... But what good does it do if one has to sift thru a mountain of needlessly venomous 1 star reviews that don't lean on any logic before you get to actually actionable feedback?

Ultimately I think articles from GTPlanet and other outlets, YouTube content with a lot of traction and engagement, and a meaningful discourse on social media is likely to be far more visible, and importantly far more useful, to PD and Sony going forward, when compared to the Nietzschian abyss of metacritic user scores.

I may not have given you a perfect solution here, but I tried - a lot more than some others are trying.

 

[Canucks_9419]

One thing I've observed in these many threads from the "You can't expect everything day 1" and "Just wait a little longer" points of contention is the disregard of the sheer amount of time that a large amount of people have waited for a game like this to return. If one skipped GT Sport, they've waited approaching 9 Years for this style to come back.

Odds are as well, they saw the excitement of all their favorite things about GT returning, and went out to buy a PS4 or PS5 just for this game alone. They fired it up day 1 to see:

• All of the games functionality tucked away behind the very linear Café system (I liked this new approach, but it would have been WAYYYY better as a side story).
• 1/4 of the amount of events required to even begin to make this MTX idea make any sense whatsoever.
• An online lobby system with functionality somehow worse than the last 3 installments in this series!
• The clunkiest UI decisions I've come across in the last 5 years easily.

Taking these factors into consideration, it's incredibly foolish to disregard the overwhelming frustration with this quite obviously very unfinished product they've sold us. I'm incredibly disappointed with the state of this game currently, but I'm at the least thankful I'm not one who went out and upgraded for this, because I couldn't imagine how livid I would be about the state of the product.

Do I agree with hurling insults on socials or leaving unhelpful reviews on socials and review sites? No, I believe feedback should always be concise and constructive. This tidal wave of anger and frustration is completely warranted though. End rant.

 

[Lomic]

Quoted directly from the statement:
"We will in time let you know the update plans for additional content, additional race events and additional features that will constructively resolve this."

While nerfing joyfully the already abismal payouts... ok right. Sorry but it does not fill me with hope. Maybe it is enough for you, but clearly thousands are disagreeing and voicing their concerns with the few outlets they have.

For me personally, if I really felt that stung? Suck it up and be more careful with my money next time, we all buy something we regret at some point I'm sure.

Well the solution "if you don't like it stop playing it" won't do. Everyone wants to play it, not ditch it. And next time is in 5 years at best (but I'll think twice before buying a PS6 and GT8, I can assure you).

To suggest to the people here? Find a constructive avenue of complaint.

Could you be more specific ? Currently you are saying that we should not use the review method while offering no alternative. I agree it is a bad method, but I don't see many other ways.

Ultimately I think articles from GTPlanet and other outlets, YouTube content with a lot of traction and engagement, and a meaningful discourse on social media is likely to be far more visible, and importantly far more useful, to PD and Sony going forward, when compared to the Nietzschian abyss of metacritic user scores.

Sure, no one is talking about the review bombing on Metacritic outside of GT Planet forum. No Youtube content is reacting to the review bombing, no one is speaking about the review bombing on social media, no gaming website are writing articles about it, and no mainstream media is jumping on the band wagon. All of that for nothing, that's too bad.

I am sorry but users too have the right to voice their disappointment, it is not just for some elite you deam worthy of speaking out, and as users don't have many ways to do so, they use Metacritic.

 

[Silver Arrows]

"We will in time let you know the update plans for additional content, additional race events and additional features that will constructively resolve this."

...even though we already know at least a bit of the upcoming content (that should have been in the game!) from Jimmy Fallon showing it off?

They are not simply unaware of our complaints...

Then they better start being aware, because they're pissing away 25 years of good will built up.

So many of your posts simply reek of victim blaming, chastising people for using their own avenues for 'badmouthing' the game that you believe is relatively blameless (even though we have a clear understanding that it was done with PD's direct knowledge, and instituted by the man at the top) and basically doing nothing to blame PD when they have the lion's share of the blame for everything other then the server outage.

One thing I've observed in these many threads from the "You can't expect everything day 1" and "Just wait a little longer" points of contention is the disregard of the sheer amount of time that a large amount of people have waited for a game like this to return. If one skipped GT Sport, they've waited approaching 9 Years for this style to come back.

This too.

 

[kungtotte_]

well maybe it is because I am not grinding but playing the available content in a manner that is fun or at the minimum, not boring?

and I have not been driving for 40 hours (apparently there are plenty of things do aside driving in this game), so I am more around 370k per driven hour, I know I can double that by grinding but I don't want to.

I think the GT4 race at High Speed Ring is pretty fun actually. That's the one I was referring to when I said you could be making ~155K per 15 minutes (I guess it's technically more like 18-19 minutes, 3 runs). If you do that every now and then, eventually you'll get the scratch for your unicorn.

 

[Adam Barber]

While nerfing joyfully the already abismal payouts... ok right. Sorry but it does not feel me with hope. Maybe it is enough for you, but clearly thousands are disagreeing and voicing their concerns with the few outlets they have.

If you really don't like how things the way they are then stop playing, that'll get your point across much more than any 1 start review filled with venom and hatred ever will. As for me I know that PD will add more events as they've not only stated this but they've been seem on Jimmy Fallon. All the shouting will get people nowhere without being constructive with feedback to Devs/publishers.

 

[Scaff]

For me personally, if I really felt that stung? Suck it up and be more careful with my money next time, we all buy something we regret at some point I'm sure.

I'm not sure that protesting with your wallet years after a product is released is going to be effective, nor does it give the supplier of that product awareness at the right time.

To suggest to the people here? Find a constructive avenue of complaint.

None exists

Negative feedback shouldn't, of course, be discarded, but it needs to be useful in some way or other if the developer has any chance of righting the wrong. I don't see what about this issue can't be addressed thru more constructive means; let's get our complaints into a unified front that's easily there for PD to see. Let's be fair in our assessment so that while they can see what we don't like, they can also see what we do like and where we want things to head.

You have to gain the attention of the supplier in the first place for any of this to occur, and when that supplier is as famously uncommunicative as Kaz is, that's not easy.

What's done is done; a lot of you didn't get the launch you wanted. All there is to be done now is to agree where we want this game to head, and I do feel Kaz has extended that olive branch to us. They are not simply unaware of our complaints... But what good does it do if one has to sift thru a mountain of needlessly venomous 1 star reviews that don't lean on any logic before you get to actually actionable feedback?

Ultimately I think articles from GTPlanet and other outlets, YouTube content with a lot of traction and engagement, and a meaningful discourse on social media is likely to be far more visible, and importantly far more useful, to PD and Sony going forward, when compared to the Nietzschian abyss of metacritic user scores.

The MC review-bomb has driven most of that activity, it's what's given the issue traction!

I may not have given you a perfect solution here, but I tried - a lot more than some others are trying.

Unfortunately what you've provided, to my view, are means that are either unrealistic or no where near as effective.

Like it or not, the review-bomb is what has driven the wider gaming and non-gaming press to sit-up, take notice and actually write about this.

 

[Johnnn]

If you really don't like how things the way they are then stop playing, that'll get your point across much more than any 1 start review filled with venom and hatred ever will. As for me I know that PD will add more events as they've not only stated this but they've been seem on Jimmy Fallon. All the shouting will get people nowhere without being constructive with feedback to Devs/publishers.

But we can destroy the brand which is our only option for now. Not cool but I didn't start trolling other people.

 

[Silver Arrows]

If you really don't like how things the way they are then stop playing, that'll get your point across much more than any 1 start review filled with venom and hatred ever will.

Oh, I've stopped playing. But I'd much rather prefer that the micro-transactions stop wholesale and the game's economy changed to make it somewhat tenable to play if I don't want to spend every waking hour of the day grinding Fisherman's just to get somewhere when it comes to credits.