Kazunori Yamauchi tweets!

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Nice language.


You are opening the door to be argued with. Oh the irony.

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But what you guys should really stop is to hail all these negativaties and conspiracies on this game. Take it or leave it, simple as that. Nobody forces you to spend 11,99€ on that.

God damn, you guys can be happy, that they even drop a DLC. It's just depressing, that they work on something to make the community happy, and even then there some fools who think the can argue about that.

That's just plain bs.
Get the hell out of here with that nonsense. Nothing was stopping PD from releasing the DLC in a sane, fair way like nearly every other developer in the industry does.



Instead, PD decided to implement it in a way that works as hard as possible to rip you off; and has already screwed many people out of their money. There is nothing to be happy about the way this has been implemented, and you are the fool if you think people should be happy about it just because it exists.
 
This really sucks. I have a U.S PS3 and U.S Account as my main account, but a European copy of GT5. This DLC system is messed up. Other DLCs no matter from which account I get them they will always work on my main account, even DLC from my Japanese account works on my American main account. How come PD does this? so now I have to wait until the 25th? a whole week after all the waiting and looking forward to today. :grumpy::grumpy:
 
Wait so unlike the Chromeline and Stealth car, which can be used on any account if you have the main account on the PS3.

This made sense to me. For I hate to buy two DLC pack for the kids and myself.

If this is what I'm reading. My blood pressure is rising over this thought.
 
Instead, PD decided to implement it in a way that works as hard as possible to rip you off; and has already screwed many people out of their money. There is nothing to be happy about the way this has been implemented, and you are the fool if you think people should be happy about it just because it exists.

Rip me off :lol:

Than I'm going to play Need For Speed and Forza Motorsport from now on.
Oh no wait. I'm getting ripped of there as well. What a pity :sly:

But I guess, that you misunderstand me here.
I'm not saying, that you should acquiesce with GT5. Sure, it had/have a lot of mistakes and sure isn't the best game, but I mean why should you really argue about something, that is normal for the gaming industry.

Besides that: All of you would argue about if PD would not have released a DLC.
 
Oh and what happens when I wait until the 25th and it doesn't work because my copy of the game is not American? this would make things even worse than they already are. Please fix this PD!
 
Wait so unlike the Chromeline and Stealth car, which can be used on any account if you have the main account on the PS3.

This made sense to me. For I hate to buy two DLC pack for the kids and myself.

If this is what I'm reading. My blood pressure is rising over this thought.

Why can't your kids (and grandkids and their grandkids) play on your account? It's just a game, or is it? Besides, sharing is always good.
 
Rip me off :lol:

Than I'm going to play Need For Speed and Forza Motorsport from now on.
Oh no wait. I'm getting ripped of there as well. What a pity :sly:
None of them pull anything to this extent. That's a fact.

I'm not saying, that you should acquiesce with GT5. Sure, it had/have a lot of mistakes and sure isn't the best game, but I mean why should you really argue about something, that is normal for the gaming industry.
Because it isn't normal for the gaming industry, PD (and the PD defense force) spent a year saying they were above this sort of thing, and pulling 🤬 like this makes it clear that no one in the entire company has a fully functioning brain among them, so the game is never going to get better in this regard.

Besides that: All of you would argue about if PD would not have released a DLC.
No. Not really. This DLC pack is the one thing more than anything else that proves PD's incompetence as a modern developer. I was willing to overlook every other stupid niggle with the game because I enjoyed it in spite of them, but with this I've had it. And I know I'm not the only one for which this is the breaking point.
 
Than tell me exactly what YOU don't like about this DLC or game?
Just because it has 15 Cars that actually just have a racing modification?
C'mon.... I mean I understand, that you've expected much more from this and from the game.

But again, no one is forced to buy this. And if you "had it" with the game why not looking for an alternative? There sure are plenty.

But, just in case you wanna know, Forza Motorsport 4 is much more worse than GT5. FM4 is actually just a big addon to FM3 and therefore to FM2.

So much to "get ripped of"
 
Isn't something disturbing.
Actually quite "normal"

But what you guys should really stop is to hail all these negativaties and conspiracies on this game. Take it or leave it, simple as that. Nobody forces you to spend 11,99€ on that.

God damn, you guys can be happy, that they even drop a DLC. It's just depressing, that they work on something to make the community happy, and even then there some fools who think the can argue about that.

That's just plain bs.

Unbelievable. Never have I thought defending PD would go this far. Now I have truly seen it all. PD can keep releasing this kind of garbage again and again as long as people have this kind of attitude.
 
Unbelievable. Never have I thought defending PD would go this far. Now I have truly seen it all. PD can keep releasing this kind of garbage again and again as long as people have this kind of attitude.

This has nothing to do with "defending" PD.
I accept others opinions, and I fully understand those.

But there should be a possibility to explain to me WHY?

I just like a nice solid game, and don't need anything monumental in there.
 
mykem
Why can't your kids (and grandkids and their grandkids) play on your account? It's just a game, or is it? Besides, sharing is always good.

I have two PS3's and two TV's for this reason. We did share till last Christmas when we got the second PS3. After GT5 came out and our gaming time tripled. I started league racing. So my kids have a sub account on my other PS3.


It doesn't make sense to allow the previous cars to be used on sub accounts but not current DLC.

No biggie really. However it's 12 more dollars spent on by me on the same thing I will have bought two minutes before. That is just baffling.

Let me pay you twice for the same thing. So a sub account can use it on my PS3.

Many people I know have sub accounts for friends to use. Not everyone likes friends racing on their account. Some of my friends would tarnish my good name as a clean racer. This just a bunch crap in my book.

I will complain. I will pay. I hope I can sit down when PD and PSN get done reaming me for 24 dollars. Thanks guys.

IRacing anyone?
 
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Wait so unlike the Chromeline and Stealth car, which can be used on any account if you have the main account on the PS3.

This made sense to me. For I hate to buy two DLC pack for the kids and myself.

If this is what I'm reading. My blood pressure is rising over this thought.

Thats right big families are &%$&%$, and in my case I have two users - one with an online account and another with no account just to replay finished games offline... I was 18 hours into 24h le mans... back the game save... bought the DLC to try on my offline account and nothing... now Im too affraid to restore the game save and loose the DLC... either way I loose - 18h or DLC

This DLC for big families is the most expensive unworthy DLC I ever saw
 
Wait so unlike the Chromeline and Stealth car, which can be used on any account if you have the main account on the PS3.

This made sense to me. For I hate to buy two DLC pack for the kids and myself.

If this is what I'm reading. My blood pressure is rising over this thought.

Yes, sadly it's true. :grumpy:

They should have shipped out valerian pills with the fake "DLC" pack. I bet the Sony customer service crew now would also be happy about some valerian pills, they will get hater eMails & calls like hell. :lol:
 
Than tell me exactly what YOU don't like about this DLC or game?
You get one of each item, including the cars, despite there being perfectly 2 functional systems in the game that would make it so they fit in with the rest of the content.

Once you use them up, you cannot simply redownload them like you do with all of the other DLC for the game. You must rebuy them with actual real life money. This includes the one-time use paints, which is basically a 🤬 slap in the face considering how terrible the paint chip system already was; particularly considering all of the content was included in the Spec II update and the DLC is nothing more than unlock codes.

The DLC is account and region locked, even though PD knows full well that multiple user accounts are common among GT5 players; but PD didn't even bother to mention this fact until a good while after the DLC was released, meaning a bunch of people have already been screwed out of their money.





Nothing about the way this DLC has been handled has done anything but paint PD as almost comically stupid and/or comically greedy, and it seems to be more the latter than the former.



And if you "had it" with the game why not looking for an alternative? There sure are plenty.
Don't worry. My belief in PD's ability to do anything right has finally been shaken enough that I am doing exactly that.

But, just in case you wanna know, Forza Motorsport 4 is much more worse than GT5. FM4 is actually just a big addon to FM3 and therefore to FM2.
This is absurd logic, and for someone who "isn't defending PD" to even say something so ridiculous with a straight face makes you either a liar or a hypocrite.
 
Please somebody inform Yamuchi lot of users around the world are having problem with the single PSN id limitation and the particular version of the game they are using "the strange mix".
 
You get one of each item, including the cars, despite there being perfectly 2 functional systems in the game that would make it so they fit in with the rest of the content.

Once you use them up, you cannot simply redownload them like you do with all of the other DLC for the game. You must rebuy them with actual real life money. This includes the one-time use paints, which is basically a 🤬 slap in the face considering how terrible the paint chip system already was.

The DLC is account and region locked, which is ridiculous by itself considering all of the content was included in the Spec II update and PD knows full well that multiple user accounts are common among GT5 players; but PD didn't even bother to mention this fact until a good while after the DLC was released, meaning a bunch of people have already been screwed out of their money.





Nothing about the way this DLC has been handled has done anything but paint PD as almost comically stupid and/or comically greedy, and it seems to be more the latter than the former.




Don't worry. My belief in PD's ability to do anything right has finally been shaken enough that I am doing exactly that.


This is absurd logic, and for someone who "isn't defending PD" to even say something so ridiculous with a straight face makes you either a liar or a hypocrite.

I think he is neither... he is just a troll that never played Forza, doesnt have brothers or has is own PS3 or doesnt understand the meaning of the word share and the value of money. Just be greatfull that SPA doesnt wear off but just in case Im not going to run on it with weather - there could be a storm ruin the track and I would have to buy the DLC again
 
At least due to this, there won't be a gazillion people sharing with there friend's second cousin's brother's best friend. It actually was probably why they did that in the first place.
 
Seriously any of this bickering have anything to do with Kaz's tweeter account?

No so go complain somewhere us.

All of this will reported.
 
One thing to keep in mind, PD is the developer. They create and design the game. Sony is the publisher, they control all the marketing, and likely all the decisions regarding DLC. While PD and Sony share a very close relationship, for a number of reasons, having DLC locked per account is likely something beyond PD's control. It's Sony's decision. No doubt such an unpopular decision will quickly filter through Kazunori to Sony, but it's likely far beyond Kazunori's ability to do anything about it.

Unfortunately, complaining to Sony is likely to be futile.
 
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At least due to this, there won't be a gazillion people sharing with there friend's second cousin's brother's best friend. It actually was probably why they did that in the first place.

Ip restriction or make people register PS3's. Anything besides screwing honest parents that have shell out multiple times for same content. Content that legally belongs to the parent and not the sub accounts said parents children use.

Obviously like many. I am very frustrated.


Also people may not ve aware. But only 4 ps3's can be registered to an account. So if you own one and shared with three. You kinda screw yourself later in life if you get two of them.


Prefer they implement some sorta registration process allowing hard working honest customers to continue using DLC as before.
 
Ip restriction or make people register PS3's. Anything besides screwing honest parents that have shell out multiple times for same content. Content that legally belongs to the parent and not the sub accounts said parents children use.

Obviously like many. I am very frustrated.


Also people may not ve aware. But only 4 ps3's can be registered to an account. So if you own one and shared with three. You kinda screw yourself later in life if you get two of them.


Prefer they implement some sorta registration process allowing hard working honest customers to continue using DLC as before.
That could work, but the way things have been, its not likely.
 
One thing to keep in mind, PD is the developer. They create and design the game. Sony is the publisher, they control all the marketing, and likely all the decisions regarding DLC. While PD and Sony share a very close relationship, for a number of reasons, having DLC locked per account is likely something beyond PD's control. It's Sony's decision. No doubt such an unpopular decision will quickly filter through Kazunori to Sony, but it's likely far beyond Kazunori's ability to do anything about it.

Unfortunately, complaining to Sony is likely to be futile.

Congrats. Somebody gets it.

Toronado, sorry, but you look like an idiot blaming the wrong group.
 
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Congrats. Somebody gets it.

Toronado, sorry, but you look like an idiot blaming the wrong group, grasping at straws with the rolleyes smilie.

Oh yes. It's Sonys fault too for the mess GT5 shipped with.

What are PD actually responsible for anyway?
 
Oh yes. It's Sonys fault too for the mess GT5 shipped with.

What are PD actually responsible for anyway?

For creating the DLC, which they did. Sony decides when to release it, and on what conditions.

It's simple, really.
 
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