King of the Track: The Community vs C.J Wilson

t.o check back again latter, I hear the facebook app is slow to update.
Will do

Are they judging it by the facebook app? I checked mine last night and was 1:25/1:26 and I don't think I ran that time. Wanted to check today in case it wasn't updated.
Read on fm.net's site that the facebook app isn't right. Saw the top guys listed were like 1:07-1:08 range and I doubt you can pull that time off on your first lap from a standing start. If it is then whoa those guys are awesome and super fast
It seems like it's grabbing your worse time or something. And you're right, if them dudes are pulling those times from standing starts then I have no chance in hell. I probably couldn't get that if there was no sticky grass and I was cutting every corner in the game.
 
I'm having trouble cracking even 1:17. Will download a few vids from the leaderboard to try and see what I'm doing wrong. Also to see whether anyone has beaten the time with a pad and automatic gears since that's all I'm capable of using.

I'm not sure whether this is open to everyone opr just people with registered Facebook accounts. If the latter then I'm wasting my time on this monthly.
 
use manual gear, you only need third and fourth gear and maybe 2 gear changes per lap!

I don't know how you can do 17, without ever touching the limit you can casually run 14s.
 
t.o check back again latter, I hear the facebook app is slow to update.

Well it's getting updated slowly but surely
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Still has me slower than what my fastest is but at least it's better than CJ's
 
i got a 1:12:Xxxx something, with my wheel (thrustmaster 458), could do ALLOT faster, but when i saw cj had posted a disapointing 1:13 i did not care anymore.
 
use manual gear, you only need third and fourth gear and maybe 2 gear changes per lap!

I don't know how you can do 17, without ever touching the limit you can casually run 14s.
Because I can only use auto gears. I don't drive a car in real life.
 
Because I can only use auto gears. I don't drive a car in real life.

All the more reason it doesn't matter. It's not like using a controller or a thumb stick is like driving a car, is it? I guess you can't answer that if you don't drive but the answer is no.
Manual no clutch took me a little time to get used to be I am glad I practiced. Like driving a real car with a manual transmission, it comes with practice. It took me a couple days of driving in real life to get it down decently. In-game it took a lot of laps but it's worth it.
What I do is listen closely to the engine. I turn the game music off. lol, I am now wondering if FM4 even has game music. I don't know honestly. Anyways, I listen to the engine noise and watch the needle on the tach. When it hits redline, I remember how high pitched the noise it. And every time I hear that noise again, I shift. Sounds simple but I do it everytime I get into a new car. Maybe I shift a little early or late but it's a game. And to downshift, I tend to hit one gear at a time while braking until I feel like the RPMs are high enough to get decent acceleration when I finish the corner. Shifting a manual is all about listening to the sound of it. Once you realize that, with a little practice, it becomes second nature.

As for the FB thing, something is up. Both loadedlove and I are in the 1:11 range as he is only a few 10th ahead of me. But FB says I am at 1:13.1xx and he's as 1:12.6xx. I doubt it is slow to update as I haven't attempted another go in over a week.
 
All the more reason it doesn't matter. It's not like using a controller or a thumb stick is like driving a car, is it? I guess you can't answer that if you don't drive but the answer is no.
Manual no clutch took me a little time to get used to be I am glad I practiced. Like driving a real car with a manual transmission, it comes with practice. It took me a couple days of driving in real life to get it down decently. In-game it took a lot of laps but it's worth it.
What I do is listen closely to the engine. I turn the game music off. lol, I am now wondering if FM4 even has game music. I don't know honestly. Anyways, I listen to the engine noise and watch the needle on the tach. When it hits redline, I remember how high pitched the noise it. And every time I hear that noise again, I shift. Sounds simple but I do it everytime I get into a new car. Maybe I shift a little early or late but it's a game. And to downshift, I tend to hit one gear at a time while braking until I feel like the RPMs are high enough to get decent acceleration when I finish the corner. Shifting a manual is all about listening to the sound of it. Once you realize that, with a little practice, it becomes second nature.

As for the FB thing, something is up. Both loadedlove and I are in the 1:11 range as he is only a few 10th ahead of me. But FB says I am at 1:13.1xx and he's as 1:12.6xx. I doubt it is slow to update as I haven't attempted another go in over a week.
I wonder how many people can have success driving a manual in real life for the first time with only game experience. I drove manual in real life for years and then doing it in game was not a problem. Infact it's really easier to be honest since the car never cuts off from stalling in the game. Also I think FM4 users would be more capable in real life than GT5 users. In FM4 you can damage the engine with bad shifts and at least that prepares you somewhat for real life whereas in GT5 you can fall into some bad habits that would otherwise destroy your engine in real life.
 
I was scared after reading what you guys said about the facebook app. My original time with a pad is 1.11.63 but on the facebook app shows me at 1:12.656. Atleast im still faster then C.J haha.

I was scared too. I don't get the FB calculations. Maybe they are adding a certain percentage of time to account for the rolling start if your best lap wasn't at a dead start?
 
I was scared too. I don't get the FB calculations. Maybe they are adding a certain percentage of time to account for the rolling start if your best lap wasn't at a dead start?

Yeah it is odd, but if im still faster im happy.
 
I wonder how many people can have success driving a manual in real life for the first time with only game experience. I drove manual in real life for years and then doing it in game was not a problem. Infact it's really easier to be honest since the car never cuts off from stalling in the game. Also I think FM4 users would be more capable in real life than GT5 users. In FM4 you can damage the engine with bad shifts and at least that prepares you somewhat for real life whereas in GT5 you can fall into some bad habits that would otherwise destroy your engine in real life.

In real life it is all about judging clutch feel vs shifter vs accelerator pedal. Even if you bungee a pedal set for more resistance, you still don't feel the clutch mechanically engage. On top of the fact that a pedal set even with a strong bungee comes no where near a stong clutch. I've had to push down a clutch from a King Cobra and it nearly took two feet. lol! But I guess in real life cars sometimes have shift lights or something to use as judgement. I just shift around 3-4k depending on the mood I am in or if there's a car in front of me.
 
In real life it is all about judging clutch feel vs shifter vs accelerator pedal. Even if you bungee a pedal set for more resistance, you still don't feel the clutch mechanically engage. On top of the fact that a pedal set even with a strong bungee comes no where near a stong clutch. I've had to push down a clutch from a King Cobra and it nearly took two feet. lol! But I guess in real life cars sometimes have shift lights or something to use as judgement. I just shift around 3-4k depending on the mood I am in or if there's a car in front of me.

Well I was kinda conceding those points ;) There's alot you don't get in game that you get in real life. You can feel when you're right about at the point of cutoff that you don't get , of course, in a game unless you have one of the hydraulic chairs or something. I don't know if either game would relay that to the chair in any case.
 
I wonder how many people can have success driving a manual in real life for the first time with only game experience.

I think it's best to not have game experience at all.

The speed and rhythm of real shifting is hugely different from in game, if you follow your gaming muscle memory on a downshift it would be quite ugly.

I have a G25 at the time I learn real driving and it does not help a bit.
 
I think it's best to not have game experience at all.

The speed and rhythm of real shifting is hugely different from in game, if you follow your gaming muscle memory on a downshift it would be quite ugly.

I have a G25 at the time I learn real driving and it does not help a bit.

I would think it would help a little. Like I said I went from real shifting to game shifting so I wouldn't know how it would be vice-versa.
 
Anyways, I listen to the engine noise and watch the needle on the tach. When it hits redline, I remember how high pitched the noise it. And every time I hear that noise again, I shift. Sounds simple but I do it everytime I get into a new car.
What do you do on an electric car?

[EDIT] Electric cars don't have discrete gears so I guess this is a moot point.
 
Because I can only use auto gears. I don't drive a car in real life.

using manual is really easy in forza, i thought it was imposible, but i just learned, using a controller, lower class cars, keep going up classes each time, voila, you just learned how to drive a manual car, verry easy! once you get used to it, it's worth it! it is soo much easyer to control a car in manual.

also, i'm 15, i dont have a car, not even a moppet. i can drive manual with clutch now.

just learn, trust me, once you've learned, youll be thankfull!

EDIT: a good car to learn is the Lexus LFA, the rev meter turns green when it's time to shift.
 
I don't doubt it's worth it but I bet it's easier to learn at fifteen than forty five. I'm set in my ways and am already getting top 4% and 5% scores with auto gears. Maybe when I have a little more time.
 
My fb time still hasn't updated to match my actual, which I did last week!

Checking the leaderboard on the Xbox itself, or from Microsoft's Forzamotorsport.net site shows the correct time.
 
My time is way off too. It's showing me at 1:20.xxx....It should be a lot lower than that. I did just enought to beat CJ's time before I stopped running the event last week.
 
My time is way off too. It's showing me at 1:20.xxx....It should be a lot lower than that. I did just enought to beat CJ's time before I stopped running the event last week.

allot of people's times are off by a few seconds there, lol, last time i checked mine, i was 1 sec slower then i actualy was, and cj's time was a 1:20 :yuck: but im sure t10 will get the times from a working leaderboard.
 

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