Kubica injured in rally crash - Now rallying again...
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This is an interview from a friend of mine talking about Kubica. They raced together in lower formula, and this interview does not show him in a wholly positive light. Interesting.
http://robertscomeback.blogspot.com/2011/06/interview-with-fernando-rees-kubicas.html
http://robertscomeback.blogspot.com/2011/06/interview-with-fernando-rees-kubicas.html
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- Ardius_
Ex-teammate be-moans superior equipment and "what I coulda shoulda". No offense but this kind of thing is repeated up and down motorsport all the time, excuse me while I roll my eyes.
I have no doubt that Kubica probably did benefit from better equipment most of the time, but thats just how motorsport is - that doesn't paint Kubica in a bad light and half of the negativity in that interview comes from the interviewee moaning about inferior equipment.
If you pay more money or know wealthier or more powerful people, you get the better engineers, equipment, special access, etc. Frustrating, yes, but I wouldn't put it against Kubica that he took advantage of this as a million other drivers would do the same thing.
In the end, Kubica still has to show his talent relative the equipment and opportunities that he gets. And as that interview also concludes - there is little doubt that Kubica is talented, certainly good enough for F1.
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As stated in the article there is no doubt that Kubica is a very talented driver. I thought it might be interesting for members less in the know than yourself to see how racing in the lower formulae isn't as straight forward as it often seems.
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I just find it a little tiresome for many racing drivers when they are asked about their famous ex-teammate to then resort to the typical "woulda coulda shoulda" stuff. Kind of like your grandad telling you his 20th outlandish tale when he was a lad and how he was in the same class as some famous person.
While it would also be boring if every driver simply paid compliments and didn't tell us any of this, I certainly get the impression more often than not that these drivers simply haven't accepted what happened and moved on. Like its their excuse for everything and their example of how they are better than they might seem.
Not that I'm suggesting all of this applies to your mate but there are some out there that give this impression. Certainly though there is also the point that you are obviously going to sound like you are living in the past if you are always asked about it! And so I should also say that its not the driver's fault if they are constantly asked about their famous ex-teammates!
For example, I feel that Martin Brundle only talks about his time as rival to Ayrton Senna when its brought up. But he seems to talk about his time as team-mate to Schumacher quite regularly, with a slight tinge of jealousy or frustration at what could have been (particularly Spa 1992). People forget that Brundle was once team-mate to Schumacher (mostly because Schumacher very rarely was given a team-mate to remember!) and so I get this sense Martin is rarely asked about it but he regularly brings it up.
Sometimes when he brings 1992 up again, I wish he would just get over it and move on. He has proved himself plenty of times elsewhere that he really doesn't need to keep referring to his time against Michael, though I can certainly understand the frustration of missing out on what could have been his first ever GP win.
I think basically it just seems like cheap excuses and a constant focus on where said driver felt they showed their best when in reality they really don't need to focus on the moment when they were supposedly unfairly beaten by a famous driver.
I'd also add-on that perhaps it would be a better balanced interview if we heard about what Fernando Rees feels is his best racing moments and successes are rather than to focus most of the interview on Robert Kubica which is inevitably going to bring out some of the negativity. Its like getting an interview with Felipe Massa and then asking him what he thinks about Lewis Hamilton...
While it would also be boring if every driver simply paid compliments and didn't tell us any of this, I certainly get the impression more often than not that these drivers simply haven't accepted what happened and moved on. Like its their excuse for everything and their example of how they are better than they might seem.
Not that I'm suggesting all of this applies to your mate but there are some out there that give this impression. Certainly though there is also the point that you are obviously going to sound like you are living in the past if you are always asked about it! And so I should also say that its not the driver's fault if they are constantly asked about their famous ex-teammates!
For example, I feel that Martin Brundle only talks about his time as rival to Ayrton Senna when its brought up. But he seems to talk about his time as team-mate to Schumacher quite regularly, with a slight tinge of jealousy or frustration at what could have been (particularly Spa 1992). People forget that Brundle was once team-mate to Schumacher (mostly because Schumacher very rarely was given a team-mate to remember!) and so I get this sense Martin is rarely asked about it but he regularly brings it up.
Sometimes when he brings 1992 up again, I wish he would just get over it and move on. He has proved himself plenty of times elsewhere that he really doesn't need to keep referring to his time against Michael, though I can certainly understand the frustration of missing out on what could have been his first ever GP win.
I think basically it just seems like cheap excuses and a constant focus on where said driver felt they showed their best when in reality they really don't need to focus on the moment when they were supposedly unfairly beaten by a famous driver.
I'd also add-on that perhaps it would be a better balanced interview if we heard about what Fernando Rees feels is his best racing moments and successes are rather than to focus most of the interview on Robert Kubica which is inevitably going to bring out some of the negativity. Its like getting an interview with Felipe Massa and then asking him what he thinks about Lewis Hamilton...
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There's no doubt being better prepared, better funded and better supported is preferable if you want to get results... but such stories, even if true, merely point to the fact that Kubica is just like many of the "greats", like Schumacher, Alonso or Senna... they can't accept losing.
And not being able to accept that, they do absolutely everything in their power to win. If that includes stealing set-ups or pushing your team to work 24 hour shifts to fix the car to your liking, then that's what you will do.
This all-or-nothing determination is what marks a winner and a potential world champion.
And not being able to accept that, they do absolutely everything in their power to win. If that includes stealing set-ups or pushing your team to work 24 hour shifts to fix the car to your liking, then that's what you will do.
This all-or-nothing determination is what marks a winner and a potential world champion.
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I always felt that he was really pissed off by not making it to F1 but not really any more. The thing he seems most bitter about is he got a seat in the ASM F3 team fairly and then had to vacate the seat for Hamilton as Dennis chose that team for him. I mean sure you're bound to be angry but he's only just 27 now so plenty of time to deal with it 
It must suck to truly believe you are as good as those guys on the TV every fortnight winning the hearts of fans.
It must suck to truly believe you are as good as those guys on the TV every fortnight winning the hearts of fans.
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Sadly, as Arduis said, that is motor racing.
I've seen drivers who deserve everything they get in terms of championships and accolades, but for every one of them theres two or three who don't. As I've grown close to a few drivers over the past two years it really pains me to see it. I've spoken with one driver who was pig sick after this years Autosport awards, but has to pick himself up and start all over again. Nine times out of ten the talent will get you through, but there will always be the few who do have the 'shoulda, woulda, coulda' as Arduis said. Every formule will have them from tin tops to single seaters. Sadly though, some of them are just 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' stories. I once had trials at a football club, I played with a player who is now highly tipped to play at a high level etc etc. Every sport has them.
It might sound stupid, but good racing drivers aren't a rare breed. Its the great ones which are.
And for what it's worth, I don't believe Kubica is a 'great' one. It's a shame he'll never be able to prove me wrong.
I've seen drivers who deserve everything they get in terms of championships and accolades, but for every one of them theres two or three who don't. As I've grown close to a few drivers over the past two years it really pains me to see it. I've spoken with one driver who was pig sick after this years Autosport awards, but has to pick himself up and start all over again. Nine times out of ten the talent will get you through, but there will always be the few who do have the 'shoulda, woulda, coulda' as Arduis said. Every formule will have them from tin tops to single seaters. Sadly though, some of them are just 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' stories. I once had trials at a football club, I played with a player who is now highly tipped to play at a high level etc etc. Every sport has them.
It might sound stupid, but good racing drivers aren't a rare breed. Its the great ones which are.
And for what it's worth, I don't believe Kubica is a 'great' one. It's a shame he'll never be able to prove me wrong.
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*looks forward to Rubinho's autobiography*
I actually would like to hear what he really has to say about living in Schumacher's shadow. Things like Germany 2000 and USA & Austria 2002 would be great to read about
And Button's, to an extent. Yeah he was 37, but he had a great car but just couldn't quite make it work.
That's really too bad. I hope he gets better but it's not looking to good right now.
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That sucks for Kubica, however I dont think Alguersuari should have said anything about his condition. If we never saw and heard a Kubica interview lately it's for a reason, it's because he obviously dont want to talk about his situation. I think you have to respect that but oh well.
For replacing Massa, there's so many name floating around, Hamilton, Vettel even Bianchi if Alonso dont want to compete with Hamilton or Vettel.
For replacing Massa, there's so many name floating around, Hamilton, Vettel even Bianchi if Alonso dont want to compete with Hamilton or Vettel.
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Looks that way. Like Alessandro Nannini (who suffered similar injuries in a helicopter crash) a talented, popular driver's career at the top level may be over. Maybe Robert could open a chain of cafe's.
Still, Kubica is a very determined person, and I wouldn't put a comeback 100% out of the question.
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Push-button gears, maybe?
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He needs strength to steer as well. If you can't lift a glass of water, how on earth could you turn at 3G.
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He may not be able to hold a glass of water but he's apparently been back out in a rally car (Skoda).
Saw these on a rallying forum.
Trooper
Saw these on a rallying forum.
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He's also been driving karts in Italy.
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I think a Glass of water scores lower on the difficulty meter than Kart and Rally driving. But hey, what do i know?
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The glass of water reports were never confirmed.
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