KY still not ruled out bikes

[Lain]

Ok, what makes God of War with guns any more absurd than GT with bikes?

Well, bikes and cars are both wheeled vehicles that are driven and used for racing in real life. For a game that traditionally just had cars to have bikes added to the lineup isn't really all that shocking or absurd. Guns added into a game based on Greek mythology, now that's absurd.

 

[cobraagent90]

Well, bikes and cars are both wheeled vehicles that are driven and used for racing in real life. For a game that traditionally just had cars to have bikes added to the lineup isn't really all that shocking or absurd. Guns added into a game based on Greek mythology, now that's absurd.

Then why not airplanes? Airplanes have wheels( though they use them only when landing or taking off) and they are vehicles so we technically can "drive" them.

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

Well, bikes and cars are both wheeled vehicles that are driven and used for racing in real life. For a game that traditionally just had cars to have bikes added to the lineup isn't really all that shocking or absurd. Guns added into a game based on Greek mythology, now that's absurd.

What do you do in God of War? You kill people.

What do you do in Call of Duty? You kill people.

Going by that, guns are perfectly acceptable when the objective of the game is the same.

 

[happycorey]

Regardless it will never happen. If Tourist Trophy was a new game, then it could possibly be paired with GT, but TT will get it's own title and generate more sales

 

[Cheshyrkat]

I hope GT5 has a few and the early GTHD demo pics showed they modeled a few so I doubt it would delay the game. As much as I would prefer a dedicated TT sequel, with as long as it takes PD to dev I would rather have a taste as an independent mode now then wait. IMO the inclusion doesnt diminish the overall GT experience and I dont get why some or so adamant about not having them. I mean seriously comparing the addition of bikes, a motor sport not dissimilar to car racing, to things like Snipers in God of War or the addition of Airplanes is ridiculously extreme.

 

[Rocker]

Up until now I have been all for bikes in GT5 but mainly for ONE bike only, namely, the Dodge Tomahawk.

I just want to see what it would be like, that's all.

But as it has been pointed out: How will that work with a wheel? Oh yeah, and the March 2010 thing, I'm all about that too.

 

[Lain]

Then why not airplanes? Airplanes have wheels( though they use them only when landing or taking off) and they are vehicles so we technically can "drive" them.

Yes, but do people race airplanes on the ground in real life? Maybe they did it on Top Gear... I don't know. But I'm not aware of an actual racing series that involves planes on the ground.

What do you do in God of War? You kill people.

What do you do in Call of Duty? You kill people.

Going by that, guns are perfectly acceptable when the objective of the game is the same.

If bikes were in GT, it wouldn't break the immersion. Maybe you personally don't like bikes, but bikes are still wheeled vehicles that are used in real-life racing. Bikes in GT isn't as absurd as everyone's trying to argue it to be.

I think everyone's hating on the idea partly because they just don't want to see the game get delayed. But if the game comes out when it's supposed to, and it includes bikes... let's see how many bitch about 'em then.

 

[Bogie 19th]

If they were in the game, I just wouldn't use them. I wouldn't complain about it. Then again....we are all tormented by temptation. I might be too tempted to use one of those motorcycles and then ruin my gaming experience.

If there is a demand for them, bring them. Just make them option in the career.

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

Yes, but do people race airplanes on the ground in real life? Maybe they did it on Top Gear... I don't know. But I'm not aware of an actual racing series that involves planes on the ground.

I'm not aware of any racing series with both cars and bikes, either.

If bikes were in GT, it wouldn't break the immersion. Maybe you personally don't like bikes, but bikes are still wheeled vehicles that are used in real-life racing. Bikes in GT isn't as absurd as everyone's trying to argue it to be.

I think everyone's hating on the idea partly because they just don't want to see the game get delayed. But if the game comes out when it's supposed to, and it includes bikes... let's see how many bitch about 'em then.

No, bikes and cars are completely different racing disciplines and they should stay separate. I shouldn't have to pay for something that's unrelated to what my interests are. The day Polyphony forces bikes into GT, the game has lost it's soul and just stops being Gran Turismo....PERIOD.

 

[Lain]

I'm not aware of any racing series with both cars and bikes, either.

Bikes and cars in the same game doesn't mean they'll be racing together.

No, bikes and cars are completely different racing disciplines and they should stay separate. I shouldn't have to pay for something that's unrelated to what my interests are. The day Polyphony forces bikes into GT, the game has lost it's soul and just stops being Gran Turismo....PERIOD.

Fascinating way of looking at it. But in actuality, you're getting almost twice the game for your $60. If you don't like the bike half of it, great! You're still getting your money's worth. Just the people who like both bikes and cars will get their money's worth even more so because instead of buying two games, they only have to buy one.

In the end though, I'm pretty sure Polyphony won't be combining GT and TT. They might put in a small selection of bikes into GT in the arcade mode, to give people an idea of what Tourist Trophy is like. Surely you're not against that? No harm, no foul. GT is still GT, but it gives GT players a chance to see if they'd like TT.

 

[Antti-san]

The day Polyphony forces bikes into GT, the game has lost it's soul and just stops being Gran Turismo....PERIOD.

I wouldn't go that far! Damn, some of you are acting like your best friend or your dog got run over by a bike. As for me, I'm actually planning of getting a motorcycle licence next spring.

In any case, like yaywalter said, I'm pretty sure PD will keep bikes in TT and cars in GT. And IMO, that's the best solution, because, like the man said: "Jack of all trades is a master of none".

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

Bikes and cars in the same game doesn't mean they'll be racing together.

Then what's the point of having them together in the same disc?

Fascinating way of looking at it. But in actuality, you're getting almost twice the game for your $60.

I'd rather half the game with no bikes for $50...

I wouldn't go that far! Damn, some of you are acting like your best friend or your dog got run over by a bike. As for me, I'm actually planning of getting a motorcycle licence next spring.

In any case, like yaywalter said, I'm pretty sure PD will keep bikes in TT and cars in GT. And IMO, that's the best solution, because, like the man said: "Jack of all trades is a master of none".

That last sentence recaps what I've been saying all along. I don't hate bikes at all. I'm just really passionate about what Gran Turismo means. If you start trying to be everything for everybody, you'll please no one. Start adding bikes and suddenly people are gonna ask for trucks and planes and boats; then you have a game called "Gran Turismo" that has little to do with cars. That's how you lose your soul. It's like having a mid-engine Corvette, a Subaru without AWD, or an RX7 with a V8.

 

[cobraagent90]

I'd rather half the game with no bikes for $50...
.

Oh god... You really care about 10$???? It is GT5 we are talking about. I would rather have it now for 70$ or more

 

[chepu]

Well, for all of you saying that bikes and cars racing at the same time in Gran Turismo is an insult at least, well, PD had already insulted GT..

so...that might be a clue of a Huge surprise?, Im very sure that, the idea of bikes and cars was canceled with GT:HD.....but who knows

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

Oh god... You really care about 10$???? It is GT5 we are talking about. I would rather have it now for 70$ or more

Yes, if it's $10 more for something I'll never use...no thanks.

 

[A2K78]

As I have said earlier, even though I prefer a stand-alone TT2, motorcycles in GT5 really isn't a bad idea if the inclusion of motorycles were restricted in some way. Those restrictions would include no car vs. motorcycle racing, though I wouldn't expect PD to persue this given the fact that GT5 is a full-on sim instead of arcade racer. Secondly it would have be limited to ATV/Scooters

 

[Lain]

Yes, if it's $10 more for something I'll never use...no thanks.

But GT5 will be $60 regardless of whether it has motorcycles or not. So it's $0 more for something you'll never use but others might.

 

[arvin charles]

Not that I endorse bikes in GT, but if it does make it into the game, how would PD handle damage in regards to bikes/riders?

Would you be able to fly off the bike or at the very least, bail out of a bad crash?

 

[Watevaman]

Well, for all of you saying that bikes and cars racing at the same time in Gran Turismo is an insult at least, well, PD had already insulted GT..

so...that might be a clue of a Huge surprise?, Im very sure that, the idea of bikes and cars was canceled with GT:HD.....but who knows

Damn, I've never seen that. I mean, I knew they had bikes on the selection menu, but ingame screens are new to me.

Although since it was just GTHD, it was easy to put the two together since they already had full resources for both.

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

But GT5 will be $60 regardless of whether it has motorcycles or not. So it's $0 more for something you'll never use but others might.

So you're suggesting that PD can develop 2 separate games, package both into one case, and charge the same price as if they had only worked on one?

Good luck pitching that...

 

[Lain]

So you're suggesting that PD can build 2 separate games, package both into one case, and charge the same price as if they had only worked on one?

Good luck pitching that...

Hence why I said that even though it'd be nice, it's not gonna happen.

 

[Gejost]

I'm all in for bikes! Am I all in for a pushed release date because of this? No.

 

[PAPPACLART]

GT5 should be sold as GT5, then in the future an optional game pack to add bikes/events to GT5, similar to the expansion pack fot Wipeout HD.

I would love to dice with a car while riding a superbike on the ring much like what is possible in real life.

Then we have GT mode, TT mode and arcade modes for each, bikes and cars all in one game.

Failing that then I would like the option to race my TT ghosts againts my GT ones if 2 seperate games were released.

I think KY's eventual vision is that of a universe of motorsport and this at some point will likely include bikes.

 

[Antti-san]

I would love to dice with a car while riding a superbike on the ring much like what is possible in real life.

And then end up in a hospital?

If a Gran Turismo game ever has bikes in it, I hope that PD have the common sense to keep the cars and the bikes in their own, separate events. IMO those two just don't mix!

 

[PAPPACLART]

And then end up in a hospital?

If a Gran Turismo game ever has bikes, I hope that PD have the common sense to keep the cars and the bikes in their own, separate events. IMO those two just don't mix!

That is the fantastic thing about a game, anything is possible. And yes on the Ring as it is a public road bikes and cars do have unofficial duels/races. In real life it would not be pretty in many instances!! I believe there has been a few accidents involving cars and bikes on the ring. I think more to do with stupidity though and bravado!

I would not like to have game progress specific races where bikes and cars are on the track together but the option to create my own races within arcade mode would be a nice option or to just simply have an open day on much like a track day on the ring where all vehicles classes are welcome.

To have cars and bikes competing in a race where the player has to take part in order to progress through the game is not what I want as that is dumb with no real life instance! Although GT is a game and anything is possible it is based on reality to an extent, and in reality bikes vs cars does not happen on a competitive level and should stay that way if game progress is necessary due to it.

So...

1: Bike only events racing with other bikes only
2: Car only events racing cars only
3: The option to create your own grid with bikes and cars within arcade mode.
4: To have a nurburgring track day where bikes and cars can share the track like we have in GT4.
5: to be able to race my Ghosts with either a car or bike.

So, TT can be a separate game all together that is optionally bolted to GT5 if you already have GT5 but can still work as a stand alone game if you do not. For TT progress to NOT impact on your GT 5 progress as both games are independent of each other but can be mixed and matched if one chooses with the above 5 quick examples.

I think the above would be the best way to satisfy the people that want bikes in the GT as well as the people that do not.

Also, I would love to just have one garage with all of my cars and bikes together

 

[jackh5jack]

bikes would be fun but gt5 is car racing, not motorcycle racing. They need to be separate

 

[Dan_]

This, is what we need to be in the game.....

Wake up guys, there will be no bikes, just a huge amount of fantastic cars and I'm satisfied with this, the whole world can burn to ashes if GT5 give me the experience I've been waiting.....

 

[Leadfoot53]

A problem with bikes in GT would be that for the most realistic experience, they would need to make a different driving engine. maybe even 2 if they go Standard/Pro style again...