Lamborghini 550PP Exclusive.

[hedpe]

I think it's to mitigate the fact that sometimes your opponents can outclass you esp. in the PP restricted races.

FINALLY beat the Lamborghini 550PP challenge after a week of trying. Did all races with the stock Aventador with the exception of the Nurburgring. For that I used the Gallardo with SRF on, plus all the mods and setup that's been suggested, although I added the ECU upgrade and gave the front end more camber. I also increased throttle sensitivity for greater exit speeds. All in all this has been great fun but super aggravating. And I'm now sick of Lamborghini and their ridiculous amounts of understeer and utter lack of poise through any corner. I would have killed at any point for my 458, MP4-12C, or even my modded out M3 CSL. The Aventador is a great drive though, albeit virtual, but does anyone else think that PD just used the same engine sound from the Murcielago?

they understeer like no other huh? lol

 

[gonzo1972]

You'll have to do the Ring in 7 minutes flat or less. I suggest using the Gallardo without the wing. The wing takes top speed off, the sport softs are enough to keep you on track. That high speed is needed, and the first 5 turns are crucial. You'll have to pass the Countach before the bridge. If by the 2nd split time you aren't 22 seconds behind, you probably won't win.

Cheers for the advice,every little bit helps.Will have another stab at it later,need a break first

 

[Teflonicus]

You'll have to do the Ring in 7 minutes flat or less. I suggest using the Gallardo without the wing. The wing takes top speed off, the sport softs are enough to keep you on track. That high speed is needed, and the first 5 turns are crucial. You'll have to pass the Countach before the bridge. If by the 2nd split time you aren't 22 seconds behind, you probably won't win.

I haven't seen a sub-seven minute time on this event yet. I've won it three times before moving on. Those were in 7:05.xx (I unintentionally collected the first Miura), 7:03.315, and 7:03.654.

In the attempts before-hand, the lead Miura always ran between 7:04-7:05. Now, I'm not saying 1st can't run sub-seven minutes, but I haven't seen it.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I haven't seen a sub-seven minute time on this event yet. I've won it three times before moving on. Those were in 7:05.xx (I unintentionally collected the first Miura), 7:03.315, and 7:03.654.

In the attempts before-hand, the lead Miura always ran between 7:04-7:05. Now, I'm not saying 1st can't run sub-seven minutes, but I haven't seen it.

Here you go.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=262948&page=6

I myself also have a sub 7 min. time which wasn't that hard to achieve. No dirty driving or short cuts either. So yes, it can be done.

 

[Teflonicus]

Here you go.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=262948&page=6

I myself also have a sub 7 min. time which wasn't that hard to achieve. No dirty driving or short cuts either. So yes, it can be done.

Huh? I didn't suggest it was difficult or impossible to get sub-seven minutes for a human. My point was that "[y]ou'll have to do the ring in 7 minutes flat or less" is not correct.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Huh? I didn't suggest it was difficult or impossible to get sub-seven minutes for a human. My point was that "[y]ou'll have to do the ring in 7 minutes flat or less" is not correct.

You said you haven't seen a sub 7 min. lap. I was just showing you one. Now you've seen it.

 

[Teflonicus]

You said you haven't seen a sub 7 min. lap. I was just showing you one. Now you've seen it.

The link you gave brought up page 6 of this thread for me. I couldn't find an example of the lead AI doing seven or less minutes there. However...

Here you go.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=262948&page=6

I myself also have a sub 7 min. time which wasn't that hard to achieve. No dirty driving or short cuts either. So yes, it can be done.

I'm not and haven't, at any stage, suggested it "can't be done" by you or another human.

The question was: "how fast do you have to go to win?" Freshseth83's answer was "7 minutes flat or less," and I was contradicting that by pointing out that I have never seen the lead AI go seven minutes flat. Therefore, in my experience, one only needs to run a 7:03.xx time to win. Hence:

In the attempts before-hand, the lead Miura always ran between 7:04-7:05. Now, I'm not saying 1st can't run sub-seven minutes, but I haven't seen it.

 

[Fondo458]

You'll have to do the Ring in 7 minutes flat or less. I suggest using the Gallardo without the wing. The wing takes top speed off, the sport softs are enough to keep you on track. That high speed is needed, and the first 5 turns are crucial. You'll have to pass the Countach before the bridge. If by the 2nd split time you aren't 22 seconds behind, you probably won't win.

Not true; I won the race with a 07:04:xx. Agree about the second split time however, I'd say you should be 22-21 seconds behind and in ninth place.

 

[Teflonicus]

Not true; I won the race with a 07:04:xx. Agree about the second split time however, I'd say you should be 22-21 seconds behind and in ninth place.

Ahhh. Thank you This was what I was saying.

 

[Racin510s]

Gallardo will do about 65 in that first corner with little camber and Soft sport tyres. Try braking a little later (and by little I mean 2-3 feet) turning in sooner, and holding the rear end from sliding with the throttle. It's a tough first corner. Remember it's important to get back on that gas quick because it's flat out until turn six, and then another long straight to turn seven. You should be in 8th by the end of the first lap.

Thank you for that info. I am going to run some more practice laps to see if I can take advantage of your advice. I use A/T when driving. What are your gear ratios for Rome? Are you using the Gallardo '08?

 

[Teflonicus]

The Miura with praiano's tune is just magnificent at Toscana. Won by 30s at 550pp, kept dropping the pp and still kept winning. My best so far is 465pp for just over 2M credits at 150% bonus. If I can do that with my sloppy driving I'm sure some of you could go a lot lower. 14M seems like a lot but at that rate it will pay for itself in no time and it is huge fun to drive.

It's going to need a different set-up for the nurb though. It's far too low and stiff for that bumpy old farm track.

We were discussing Praiano's Miura tune on Toscana and taking that to Nurburgring a few pages back. I found that putting 50kg (I'm not sure on the weight though) completely forward helped out with stability ... a bit. The car still wasn't stable enough though--especially when SRF was removed.

The addition of ballast would no-doubt ruin the rest of the setup, requiring re-adjustment of suspension, brakes, and LSD. As for how these should be adjusted is beyond me.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

The link you gave brought up page 6 of this thread for me. I couldn't find an example of the lead AI doing seven or less minutes there. However...



I'm not and haven't, at any stage, suggested it "can't be done" by you or another human.

The question was: "how fast do you have to go to win?" Freshseth83's answer was "7 minutes flat or less," and I was contradicting that by pointing out that I have never seen the lead AI go seven minutes flat. Therefore, in my experience, one only needs to run a 7:03.xx time to win. Hence:

Alright then, relax as I simply misunderstood what you were saying. No need to cop an attitude, lol. Just trying to help you out. Pardon me.

 

[slavssn]

The Miura with praiano's tune is just magnificent at Toscana. Won by 30s at 550pp, kept dropping the pp and still kept winning. My best so far is 465pp for just over 2M credits at 150% bonus. If I can do that with my sloppy driving I'm sure some of you could go a lot lower. 14M seems like a lot but at that rate it will pay for itself in no time and it is huge fun to drive.

It's going to need a different set-up for the nurb though. It's far too low and stiff for that bumpy old farm track.

Could you post your Toscana time, please?

I used this tune for my Countach LP400, tightened gear ratios and went down to 465PP and was able to win in just under 8:45. It's not easy to win every time because of the constant mess caused by AI in the second corner but if you avoid it, you should be fine. So, to sum up:

Track: Toscana
Car: Lamborgini Countach LP400 '74
Tune: this one, only with closer gear ratios
Weight: 905 kg
Power: ~225PS (can't remember, anyway 465-466PP)
Winning time: 8:45
Prize: 2,139,969 Cr*
Experience: 233,863*
Credits/h: around 14,600,000*
Experience/h: around 1,600,000*
Difficulty: I'd say 7/10

* - with 200% bonus; these numbers can slightly vary depending on your time and engine wear

By the way, I wonder if there is faster and easier way to earn money.

 

[Lambob]

I decided to fireup this seasonal last night, and it won't let me use my 505pp White Gallardo that I race online with, but it took a black one I had in the garage. I met all requirements, did anyone else encounter such a bug?

but yeah, This is difficult. 3/4 track done, with still 19s and no room for error...

 

[darenn67]

Hi guys, i don't post much, but i just have to tell everyone i finally finished the Lambo seasonal. Quite an acheivment for me, thought i was never going to do it, finally won with a 7:03.532 time.
I used a GallardoLP560-4 '08, & tries all the tunes i could find to win this, in the end i found the closer to stock i kept the car the faster i became, in the end i tuned it slightly with the following
Race air filter
sports exhaust
no oil change
all drive train parts (left stock)
Sports fixed suspension (left stock)
no weight reduction (1410Kg)
Stock Transmission
brakes F4 R2
No aero parts
SFR was on (not a good enough driver to drive this car without it, but that's my next goal)
TCS 3
ABS 1
hope this can help somebody, if i did it anybody can, i'm not the best driver.
Also had 318.2 miles on it
PP was 550

 

[Fondo458]

Thank you for that info. I am going to run some more practice laps to see if I can take advantage of your advice. I use A/T when driving. What are your gear ratios for Rome? Are you using the Gallardo '08?

Nope, I won Rome with the stock Aventador. Not to say you couldn't win it with the Gallardo, but I found for Rome the Aventador had better entry speeds into tight corners, and I could use the heavier body weight to my advantage (I have a dirty driving style).

I would think you could set up the Gallardo like what I used for the Nurburgring and burn through the whole event. The settings are in this thread somewhere, like on page 2 or 3.

 

[StirlingMoose]

We were discussing Praiano's Miura tune on Toscana and taking that to Nurburgring a few pages back. I found that putting 50kg (I'm not sure on the weight though) completely forward helped out with stability ... a bit. The car still wasn't stable enough though--especially when SRF was removed.

The addition of ballast would no-doubt ruin the rest of the setup, requiring re-adjustment of suspension, brakes, and LSD. As for how these should be adjusted is beyond me.

And beyond me too. I haven't had a serious go at the ring yet but when I tried it with Praiano's tune it was too hard on my arms. The wheel was just jumping about. I imagine it would need softening and raising but I really don't know what I'm doing with tuning.

Could you post your Toscana time, please?

I used this tune for my Countach LP400, tightened gear ratios and went down to 465PP and was able to win in just under 8:45. It's not easy to win every time because of the constant mess caused by AI in the second corner but if you avoid it, you should be fine.

Sorry, I didn't note the time. I had another go and got it down to 460PP for about 2.2M. Because you're that bit further behind at 460PP you tend to miss the AI mayhem. Instead of finding yourself going flat out into a parked car, you come over the brow to see the mess unfold and then just sail past.
I don't think I can go any lower. Maybe with some desperate measures blocking and shunting a few PP but I think I'll call it a day at that. It's been fun and has paid for a 2D which is now awaiting its first outing.

 

[waddy2001]

The Ring is a pain, for sure, but I've noticed a few things. First, stock or close to it doesn't seem to cause a problem. Somehow the AI sees your car differently than a loaded up one, and the times at the end are pretty close. Second, turn off the aids. One of my Gallardos handles just fine without TCS or ABS. Sure it's different but it manageable. With everything off, I was able to pass cars late in the race, something I hadn't been able to do before. Times still suck badly but this is the last challenge so I know it's beatable. Tip, is take the Merc Ring challenge in the Special Events just to get used to the track.

 

[madjack9]

I can't buy anything higher then 4th place on the Ring. Really starting to aggravate the hell out of me.

 

[Teflonicus]

Alright then, relax as I simply misunderstood what you were saying. No need to cop an attitude, lol. Just trying to help you out. Pardon me.

Cop an attitude? Giggle. And I was simply trying to explain to you that you were misunderstanding my point. Any frustration you perceive in my attempts to do this were largely based upon my inability to get this point across.

While I'm here, I completed those AMG special events. I had already completed this seasonal and the GTR '07 trophy-thing in Arcade mode, so the benefit to me was limited. I got around seven cars out of it and a nice amount of cr at 200%, but it was time consuming. For someone who doesn't know Nurburgring Nordschleife, I'll grant that it teaches them that the track can and needs to be attacked faster. It's also silly that the "beginner" section is the the hardest part of the Special Event.

 

[waddy2001]

Hi guys, i don't post much, but i just have to tell everyone i finally finished the Lambo seasonal. Quite an acheivment for me, thought i was never going to do it, finally won with a 7:03.532 time.
I used a GallardoLP560-4 '08, & tries all the tunes i could find to win this, in the end i found the closer to stock i kept the car the faster i became, in the end i tuned it slightly with the following
Race air filter
sports exhaust
no oil change
all drive train parts (left stock)
Sports fixed suspension (left stock)
no weight reduction (1410Kg)
Stock Transmission
brakes F4 R2
No aero parts
SFR was on (not a good enough driver to drive this car without it, but that's my next goal)
TCS 3
ABS 1
hope this can help somebody, if i did it anybody can, i'm not the best driver.
Also had 318.2 miles on it
PP was 550

This setup helped but I can't stand the exhaust note! Hahaha. The car handles well like this, just a bit of slipperiness to make it interesting. I haven't beaten the Ring yet but it's fun trying. Thanks!

If this is a dumb question, please excuse me. Seeing as how all the other races, well most of them, have different entries, like you can't beat one set of cars but if you go back out and come in again then you have a better chance, right? Is there a slim chance that one group of Miuras would be easier than any other group? Is there such a thing as a ranking of the AI drivers? Hey, just looking for loopholes here. I'll do my own research but maybe someone has already done it. Thanks!

 

[darenn67]

This setup helped but I can't stand the exhaust note! Hahaha. The car handles well like this, just a bit of slipperiness to make it interesting. I haven't beaten the Ring yet but it's fun trying. Thanks!

Glad it helped and good luck, i actually had the sound off when i did it, i was listening to music, i must admit it is tough, but this setup got me there in the end. The amount of times i ran the race may have helped, when i first tried i was finishing 6th so practice does help. I brought 3 Gallardos altogether just to complete this seasonal, trying different tunes with permanent mods.

 

[waddy2001]

Did you ever beat the Ring? I haven't yet. 5th is the best I have so far and I'm on my third Miura. WTH, it's just a game.

 

[themartlab]

Still didn't beat the Ring yet but since I changed my attitude about the Ring I'm improving my times. I stopped hating it. I did few laps today with lower power cars ( Opel Vectra, Golf R) and did few laps at night and i'm quite enjoying this track now. I was able to got a 3rd place, 7 seconds behind 1st Miura. Is there someone who golded it, sharing his car? Thanks!

Edited: 7:05:xx. Just behind 1st place very doable!! The third Miura spun out when I pass the 4rd place.

 

[waddy2001]

FYI: Neri: 7:08 Weismuller: 7:06 Ono: 7:07 Barbier: 7:06 Guillet: 7:10 Cherry: 7:10 Kirkland: 7:11 Pinto 7:08.
Looks like I'd wait for Kirkland to come around again. First four were with Gillardo, last 4 with Miura 1 and 3.
This is for the Ring, of course.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

Aren't AI names just generated randomly? I thought they were.

 

[gtnoobie]

FYI: Neri: 7:08 Weismuller: 7:06 Ono: 7:07 Barbier: 7:06 Guillet: 7:10 Cherry: 7:10 Kirkland: 7:11 Pinto 7:08.
Looks like I'd wait for Kirkland to come around again. First four were with Gillardo, last 4 with Miura 1 and 3.
This is for the Ring, of course.

The AI driver names are random. It'll be different in different races unless i am mistaken. The Muiras are always at the pole in this seasonal. 3rd and 4th may differ. In my 10 plus tries, miura runs anything from 7:03-05 no matter the AI driver with high 7:03 being more common.

 

[Teflonicus]

The AI driver names are random. It'll be different in different races unless i am mistaken. The Muiras are always at the pole in this seasonal. 3rd and 4th may differ. In my 10 plus tries, miura runs anything from 7:03-05 no matter the AI driver with high 7:03 being more common.

In my races, I always had 2 Miuras out front (as you have said), and then either another Miura or a Gallardo. I was wondering if three lead Miuras result in a faster time than two lead Miuras, but I didn't notice any significant difference.

I did, however, have one race where I was on a 7:03 time and the lead AI Miura was flying ahead of me by 2-3 seconds through the final bends. It seemed as though he was going to run 7 minutes flat and when I flew around that final bend, close to the railing, I found him almost parked. Some quick evasive manoeuvres led me around him for 7:03.315 (or thereabouts) and he finished with a high 7:04.

It was almost as if "he" was ahead of the schedule "he" was supposed to finish in and so put "he" brakes on. It made me think of the hot/cold effect in B-Spec when one driver is close to another and so their aggressiveness and speed increase.

 

[darenn67]

Did you ever beat the Ring? I haven't yet. 5th is the best I have so far and I'm on my third Miura. WTH, it's just a game.

The tune i posted gave me a 7.05:3 at the ring, 2nd muira spun out on me too, the first time i nearly won lead muira pitted me literally.

 

[waddy2001]

HERE IS ALL YOU NEED FOR ALL TRACKS!👍

BUY A GALLARDO LP 560-4 '08 AND PUT THIS SET UP ON IT!

BUY:-
oil change
rays vr.gr wheels
all aero parts
sports soft tyres
sports air filter
full trans
twin plate clutch
semi racing flywheel
carbon prop
torque diff
full customised LSD
full customised suspension

SET UP

AERO 15 REAR
ENGINE LIMITER 99%
TRANS RESET DEFAULT
FINAL 3.140
MAX 124
1 3.975
2 2.530
3 1.992
4 1.633
5 1.373
6 1.165

TOP MAX SHOULD BE 190MPH

DRIVETRAIN

LSD FRONT REAR
8 12
12 18
10 15
TORQUE DIFF

30 70
SUSPENSION

-15 RH -10
9.5 SR 9.5
3 DE 2
6 DC 5
3 ARB 3

0.9 CAMB ANG 0.0
+0.05 TOE -0.15

BRAKES
8 7

HOPE THIS HELPS ALL!!!

What's with the gear ratios? Top speed? Engine limiter at 99%? Nothing matches.