- 11,207
- Adrian, Mich.
- cargorat323
- CargoRatt
Yes. I've done them all with just my usual settings of ABS 1.
Lamborghini 550PP Exclusive.
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Yes. I've done them all with just my usual settings of ABS 1.
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- Zach_Attack_2011
- Z4chAtt4ck2011
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- torm1
I bought the Miura a little while after completing the Lamborgini seasonal (and saving a little) and with a little practice, it's a beast around Toscana.
For Nurburgring, the tail is very loose. My Miura is also maxed out at 546pp with reversible upgrades only.
I did find, however, that moving some ballast towards the front--while lowering the PP even further--made the car much more planted. The car went from grass-bound to semi-stable under braking, high speed bends, and initial acceleration.
Oh, and I was using the Praiano Tune as the tuning basis. I'm positive that further refinement (beyond what I am capable of) could make this the fastest Lamborghini for the 550pp bracket.
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- MyBoardNick
The picture says it all.
Hey mate,
Will send you a FR tonight from my alternate account if you don't mind 👍
Cheers
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- Ulan Bator
- kurkovein
Still can't finish the ring yet...best I could do was 4th place with the fruity's gallardo...
I am a very bad driver but I got gold in Nurburgring. If you can not win after many attempts, try using my dirty but very effective method. At the start of the race you must overtakes the first car crossing over the grass, so you get two seconds of advantage. Repeating this method, you gets seconds and seconds every time you overtakes cars. But be careful not touch the fences, because the car could do a spin or you could lose all the advantage gained.
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The only (lucky) win I've had was with the Gallardo. I gave the Miura two tries and the second attempt, with the ballast and SRF on, was a respectable 4th. The one good thing about the Miura was the ability to overtake down the long straight.
Who knows the perfect tuning for the Miura? Praiano, perhaps.
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- GTP_gc700,goofycool700
Hey cargo, I know that you are a no aids guy, have you played around with ABS=0? I've seen your tt times and saw some smokers in them so I thought you might enjoy no ABS more than =1. The cars feel great when you get the tune right. I've been playing this way for a couple of months now and I love it. The only time that I use ABS is for the tts because everyone uses =1. That might change though because the guy that won the GTA prize car 'ring tt used no aids at all with a rediculous time. My jaw dropped when I saw that. Yesterday I finally figured out a setup on a Gallardo that allowed me to win the 'ring with no aids. It was difficult because 4wd setups confuse the hell out of me. The car is a white knucle ride but seems to be fast. I would usually pass the last Miura as early as the mini Karousel or as late as the following corner then I'd chill on the final uphill esses section.
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- Adrian, Mich.
- cargorat323
- CargoRatt
Hey goof, whats up? Yea, for the last month or so, I have been practicing with no ABS. Not good enough yet to be competitive, but I'm getting there. Its a slow process as you may know. Not sure if it will be a permanent change or not, just have to see how it goes. I have been working with EDK (moderator here) off and on as he has been a really big help to me also in my improvement. Hopefully by the time the next Academy rolls around, I'll be improve enough to really have a good chance for at least making the finals. Really not putting alot of time in the TT's as I've been putting alot of time in practice. I seem to do better at improving when I'm not trying to set some record time in the TT's. But yea, thats pretty much it. We'll see where the no ABS leads me.
im new to this so how is everyone. but i think a lot of you are failing to see one simple thing. the people in charge of creating the seasonal events are suddenly making them harder. they never used to be this hard. trying to win these isnt fun anymore. i shouldnt have to go through every single setting and be precise with my setup. gran turismo used to be the real driving simulator not the real racing simulator. im at the point of not playing anymore unless the make some drastic changes as to the ability to win. and on that note this latest one with the lambos. the restrictions DO say sports hard or less but in the race you can use sports soft or less. also the AI cars DO have more than 550 pp. that being said either someone is dropping the ball or they are just trying to see who is paying attention. but in my opinion there shouldnt be ANY tire restrictions. whats the point of setting your car up to the max just to constantly detune it?
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- Sheboygan, WI
- Zach_Attack_2011
- Z4chAtt4ck2011
OutekeHey mate,
Will send you a FR tonight from my alternate account if you don't mind 👍
Cheers
Yea, go ahead.
im new to this so how is everyone. but i think a lot of you are failing to see one simple thing. the people in charge of creating the seasonal events are suddenly making them harder. they never used to be this hard. trying to win these isnt fun anymore. i shouldnt have to go through every single setting and be precise with my setup. gran turismo used to be the real driving simulator not the real racing simulator. im at the point of not playing anymore unless the make some drastic changes as to the ability to win. and on that note this latest one with the lambos. the restrictions DO say sports hard or less but in the race you can use sports soft or less. also the AI cars DO have more than 550 pp. that being said either someone is dropping the ball or they are just trying to see who is paying attention. but in my opinion there shouldnt be ANY tire restrictions. whats the point of setting your car up to the max just to constantly detune it?
Hi welcome to gtp.
The seasonal is getting harder due to 2 restrictions placed. Pp and tires.
PD made an error of putting it as sports hard instead of sports soft. Just like the time trial which should be Toyota instead of Honda.
This seasonal has the same AI pp as one in A spec. If there is no restriction, it will be a replica of Aspec on different track. Putting on race soft in a monstrously upgraded lamborghini would likely lap the Ai. Then torrents of complaint and lack of challenge would alienate a lot of drivers.
There's no rush to gold the seasonals. As we improve it will come naturally. Excluding aborted runs, it took me at least 10 laps to gold nurgburgring with aids on.
And yes, I got a job, a family and a toddler running around
Also detuning more than 10% to meet pp will make your laps slower instead.
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- torm1
im new to this so how is everyone. but i think a lot of you are failing to see one simple thing. the people in charge of creating the seasonal events are suddenly making them harder. they never used to be this hard. trying to win these isnt fun anymore. i shouldnt have to go through every single setting and be precise with my setup. gran turismo used to be the real driving simulator not the real racing simulator. im at the point of not playing anymore unless the make some drastic changes as to the ability to win. and on that note this latest one with the lambos. the restrictions DO say sports hard or less but in the race you can use sports soft or less. also the AI cars DO have more than 550 pp. that being said either someone is dropping the ball or they are just trying to see who is paying attention. but in my opinion there shouldnt be ANY tire restrictions. whats the point of setting your car up to the max just to constantly detune it?
Hi hedpe
I think everyone here has noted that the seasonals have gotten harder. It started with "rabbits" on tracks like Tsukuba and has progressed to the Rome and Nurburgring tracks in the current Lamborghini seasonal. I assume the people at PD who select the seasonals made them more difficult as a reaction to long-standing complaints that they were far too easy.
Is it becoming too hard? -I would say "no". As gtnoobie intimated, there's no requirement that the seasonals be completed in a day ... or even a week. I would add to that that there's no requirement they be completed at all.
The latest complaint from GT5 players, and I believe it has merit, is not that the seasonals are too hard, but that they rely upon rabbits that have to be chased down, and that starting at the back and having to make your way to the front--each and every race--is a dull way to create difficulty.
Personally, even if I can't win some races, I'd much prefer that there be a challenge: something to work towards.
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- London
- GTP_Stotty
No surprise PD can't please all of the people all of the time.
But I can't believe people struggle to gold this with kiddy physics (SRF) switched.
If you can't gold it with SRF you need to seriously work on your driving skills... go and spend some time golding all the license tests and the Mercedes Driving Challenges then come back to this... it will be a doddle.
But I can't believe people struggle to gold this with kiddy physics (SRF) switched.
If you can't gold it with SRF you need to seriously work on your driving skills... go and spend some time golding all the license tests and the Mercedes Driving Challenges then come back to this... it will be a doddle.
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If a person is struggling to gold the Lamborgini seasonal, I'd recommend practising the actual event rather than gold licence tests. In fact, I don't see much benefit to the licence tests, in terms of general driving, at all.
Even the Mercedes Special Events only offer the benefit of track knowledge, and surely driving in the actual car required, overtaking the actual cars to be overtaken, is better again.
Whether the Lamborghini Nurburgring event is a doddle or not is highly subjective. Some drivers struggled with the Aspec FGT events and others with the Ferrari Formula 1 seasonals. Different drivers find different challenges in different events.
Out of curiosity, what was/is the hardest event you've come across so far, Stotty?
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- snball60
not to sound too dumb, but what is "SRF"?
and just for "my" feedback, the Ferrari Formula seasonal was very difficult for me (which i eventually golded) and this Lamborghini is even more difficult for me. I'm certainly not an expert like some of you guys, but i'd would think that i'm at least average, which is where a majority are at.
and just for "my" feedback, the Ferrari Formula seasonal was very difficult for me (which i eventually golded) and this Lamborghini is even more difficult for me. I'm certainly not an expert like some of you guys, but i'd would think that i'm at least average, which is where a majority are at.
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k, thanks. i guess that i don't pay much attention to that setting? i usually take the ASM & traction control off, but use ABS with setting on 1. i guess that i'm more average than i thought? thanks again for taking the time to answer my dumb question.
That's how I drive too: Everything off except for ABS1. It seems to almost be standard for most drivers. If you have a look at the top drivers' settings in time trial events, many will have this same setup. Others will add the "Active Steering" option on "Strong" as SRF is not allowed for time trials.
Active Steering also seems to offer some advantage, although it is not as pronounced as SRF.
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- snball60
thanks for taking the time to respond & thanks for the info! i'm very interested in learning! thank God for GT Planet & these forums & All you guys (& gals) that take time to help!
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- Argon56
k, thanks. i guess that i don't pay much attention to that setting? i usually take the ASM & traction control off, but use ABS with setting on 1. i guess that i'm more average than i thought? thanks again for taking the time to answer my dumb question.
NP, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask and don't run yourself down. Whether you do or do not use SRF is not a crime in my book. Definitely worth checking to see how you do without it though as it does make things a bit more exciting
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I've been having a go at the Nurburgring event in both an older Gallardo which, with its irreversible upgrades, had to be strongly detuned, and a new Gallardo which had to be brought up to the 550pp mark without reversible upgrades (weight reduction & engine upgrades). I have to say that the difference between them is minimal. The older Gallardo may just be a little better in corners with its lower weight, and the newer Gallardo certainly seems to have better acceleration and is capable of a higher top speed. Over-all though, my laps have been a little better in the greatly detuned, older Gallardo.
I recently set my best time of 7:03.315 in it, compared to a previous best of 7:05.xx in the newer Gallardo.
Now I freely admit that there's nothing scientific about this. I'm just mentioning that they seem very close to me. With the older Gallardo, I did remove all of the intake and exhaust upgrades before reducing the engine power.
No worries at all
Edit: I got my third win. This time in the newer Gallardo. That makes it:
Older Gallardo (heavily detuned): 7:03.315
Newer Gallardo (95% engine power): 7:03.654
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- 8,642
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- GTP_Stotty
My advice is based on playing GT games since GT1 and being reasonably quick.
If people are struggling with this event to the extent they can't gold it with SRF on then they have a fundamental skill problem... it's clearly not impossible if others can gold it with the pad and no aids.
The reasons I advised running thorugh the license tests is to learn the basic skills required to be quick on GT - If you can gold the license tests you will likely understand basic cornering lines and the importance of exit speed.
The reason I advise golding the Mercedes Challenge is people will learn the 'Ring. It's a long track with a lot of corners that you can take much more quickly than you think. I learnt the 'Ring in GT4, running the Merc 190 Touring Car S License test... I ran 100's and 100's of laps there, to the point that I don't have to think where to brake or turn in and I know which kerbs I can hammer and which I can't.
Once you know the track really well then you'll find the overtaking part of this event much easier... as you'll know where you can carry speed and where you can't, and where the best places to overtake are.
If you just keep running the event you won't learn all the track (you'll likely learn the 1st 3rd, but the re-starts will mean you won't learn the rest as well) and you'll likely keep making the same mistakes.
The Vettel Challenge in the X1... Monza was easy, Suzi and Nurb GP were not!
As far as seasonals, not many, if any, are more than middling on difficulty with the pad, and would offer no real challenge with the wheel without significant de-tuning.
I tend to run them all (races, time trials and drift trials) with the pad, and I can normally gold them 1st try (might take a few more if it's a created track I haven't run before). If I find a TT I really like I might get the wheel out if I have a bit of spare time on a Sunday afternoon.
That's why it's nice to get something like this one that offers a bit more of a challenge. I won't mention the others as they are simple, but Rome and Nurb were good fun...
On Rome I started with the standard Gallardo and it took me 5 or 6 attempts to gold it (within 1s each time, but always with a small mistake)... I could have tuned it up to 550pp and won easily, but I enjoyed the challenge of having to run both fast and clean to get the win.
On Nurb, I needed the 550pp and a few more attempts!
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- mass_effect3
hi guys,
Anyone got chance help me on rome circuit for me please? on gallardo setting pls i can't win that circuit...grrrr i got 4th today....i got 1st on autumn ring (hooray) lol and not win on nurburging and topscana as well.
thank for ur help.
martyn
Anyone got chance help me on rome circuit for me please? on gallardo setting pls i can't win that circuit...grrrr i got 4th today....i got 1st on autumn ring (hooray) lol and not win on nurburging and topscana as well.
thank for ur help.
martyn
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I've been playing since the original GT too. I haven't completed the Vettel challenges though. I gave them a go to see what people were talking about, but I'm not interested in the car ... yet. That's probably why I have never driven either of my level 35 or my DLC X2011/12 cars. Maybe one day I will.
I agree with you about the importance of learning the track, and obviously that's not going to happen if a person only tries the first third. In my case, I've improved a lot on Nurburgring with this Lamborgini seasonal. My knowledge of the track was OK beforehand; it was mainly a matter of finding the limitations of the car through each of the bends. As it turned out, I was driving the cars much too conservatively.
Maybe I'll go back and try the Mercedes Special Event again. And I have a couple of licence golds left to complete too. First I want to try to beat this Nurburgring seasonal without SRF though.
Personally, I didn't find Rome to be that difficult.
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Hi Martyn,
There are loads of tips from people having trouble with Rome throughout this thread. Perhaps some more info from you could help let us know where you are at.
What settings are you using with the Gallardo? Have you tried Praiano's tune?
What driving settings do you use? Have you tried SRF?
Are you using Sports Soft tires? -There's an error in the seasonal description that says "Sports Hard" when you can use Sports Soft
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Yeah, that tire description threw me off too! Put softs on a stock Gallardo and won pretty easily on Rome. Same with the other tracks except for the Nord.
I've never driven Lambos much and it's been a learning curve especially with the Murcies. Pretty fun once you get used to allowing the front tires to do a lot of the dirty work. Best results have been when I've driven them like I hate 'em!
I've never driven Lambos much and it's been a learning curve especially with the Murcies. Pretty fun once you get used to allowing the front tires to do a lot of the dirty work. Best results have been when I've driven them like I hate 'em!
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- Odin_Wednesday
FWIW, I learned the 'Ring much better running the 4 hr and 24 hr endurance races than I did running the AMG events. Cornering and straightaway speeds tend to be higher in the race cars if you run on better tires, but the braking and turn-in points are much the same. I found it to be a lot easier when I didn't have the pressure of feeling like I had to nail every turn dead-on perfect to try to reach the gold times and could just focus on trying to improve a little bit every lap.
Curiously, by comparison with the folks who are having issues with Rome, I only really had trouble on Autumn Ring and the 'Ring. I was able to beat Rome with only sports suspension and appropriate gearing---I didn't even need to dial in my setup.
