Lamborghini Huracán LP610-4

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There's a comment in that article that I think really sums it up well:



Honestly, 'Ring lap times have become this sort of high watermark that has lost any and all meaning that it didn't have much of to begin with. Absolutely, if you want to post videos boldly claiming 'this is what we are doing to our sports/super/hypercar, testing it on the 'Ring' then go ahead. But I don't think many people really care about the distinction anymore, or the numbers. It's a non-existent pat on the back, the automotive equivalent of slapping a quote on the back of a DVD case for a movie or a game.
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It's just purely for marketing now, and if anyone has ever watched a Solomodin ( or whatever ever his name ) vid on YouTube and the stupid comments he makes ( Ex-This car is the best, it's 0.1secs faster ) you can see why they're obsessed with this kind of marketing.
SlipZtrEm
It's not like VAG has a history of lying...

Oh.
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People with VAGs have a deep routed history of lying.
 
Have to wait and see how the press handles it. So far, those who were invited to see the car privately feel very confident in its performance based on what they saw first hand.
 
I think they were proven to have lied with the Aventador SV. No one really cared apart from the real die-hard enthusiasts. At the end of the day people will gobble the marketing up and treat the video as absolute proof.
 
lxmmy


http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-did-lambo-fake-that-laptime/

Lamborghini have got some explaining to do.

Edit: Also, remember in the video comparison that the video shown on behalf of the 918 is the 7 minute lap time NOT the 6.57 plus it was lapped back in 2013 which in comparisons to now where the track has been resurfaced in most areas to gain more traction.
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A user on another forum pointed out some interesting things.
Im watching the "Fake? lamborghini huracan performante at the nurburgring."
The actual lap time video of the performante.
The actual lap of the 918, but catching glimpses of the speed when its possible.
He also mentions that the 6:57 time could be faster @ around 2:25-2:49 in his video

First, He's getting the original 7:28 Huracan time from Sport Auto, NOT Lambo's actual Huracan time. Second, he's way off on what Lambo has won in motorsports.

He's getting his 918 speeds from the 7:00 lap and assuming that those times are equal or faster during the actual lap time. There are cases where thats true, and there are cases where its slower. He could have just got the actual video and used the speed that was available. Then he mentions shadows on trees and the sun's angle? That could easily be camera position. Then he mentions the gantry speed of the 918 @ 255kph, and Huracan @ 244. The actual video was 918 @237-240kph. Then the T15(?) sign was around 285kph in the 918, and the Huracan was around 290kph, 280 if you do the speedo error or whatever, but maxed out around 300kph.

So what do you think?
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Having finally seen the video myself, he comes across immediately has having already predetermined the time was fake and decided to compile his evidence afterwards. The part above I underlined also brings forth a major point; why is he not using the 6:57 lap to compare. Why the decision to use the 7:00 lap?

Secondly, this link could be used as a more compelling argument as it states Pirelli specifically developed the Trofeo R compound on the car for this record.
http://www.tyrepress.com/2017/03/la...burgring-lap-record-on-p-zero-trofeo-r-tyres/
The Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R tyres, in 245/30ZR20 at the front and 305/30ZR20 at the back were designed specifically by Pirelli’s engineers for the record attempt. The team was able to develop these tyres in just three months, thanks to advanced modelling techniques and correlation of on-track data with telemetry.
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The Performante is here.
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...rghini-huracan-performante-races-into-geneva/
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/geneva-motor-show/lamborghini-huracan-performante-here

40kg lighter.
Power up to 631hp.
0-62 in 2.9 seconds.
 
For some reason, I thought it'd come out looking a lot more aggressive. Love the carbon element carried out on to some exterior bits. 👍

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On the topic of the lap time, Racelogic conducted a test that they concluded that the video has not been sped up. If you don't know, Racelogic is a GPS manufacturer that is well versed in the world of tracking lap times & car data.
Real or Fake? There is some controversy brewing over the recent video posted by Lamborghini showing a 2017 Huracan Performante clocking a 6m52s lap of the ring. This piqued our interest, so here is our (somewhat geeky) analysis:

The distance between the gantry and bridge is 1727m which was calculated in Circuit Tools using some customer VBOX data. This was then confirmed using the measuring tool in Google Earth. We then integrated the speed from the on-screen telemetry data on the Lambo every second using the built-in video time-stamps to obtain distance travelled. This data was obtained by stepping through the video in a video editor and entering the displayed speed every second into Excel. When integrated, the telemetry data made it 1728m from gantry to bridge, so the reported speeds and times between these two points on the circuits matched the real world distance precisely. This means that the speeds on the videos seem entirely realistic.

We then analysed the engine sound (using an FFT analysis) from the Huracan at top speed on the same straight, which showed a maximum of just under 7750 rpm on the rev counter. This analysis showed a strong peak at 640Hz which equates to 7680rpm for a V10. Therefore our opinion, based on both pieces of evidence, is that the video has not been speeded up. Next time, it would be a lot easier if they used a VBOX Video. ;)
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This is the spread sheet they included, acknowledging in their view that the SV lap time was indeed inaccurate.
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05XR8
Jim says it best

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/video...ce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ftag=CADf328eec
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And Jim will be proven wrong.
http://jalopnik.com/lamborghini-will-come-to-your-house-to-prove-it-didnt-c-1793090394

Lamborghini is not taking you Internet “experts” lightly when you say that the Italians faked their Huracán Performante Nürburgring production car lap record. Lamborghini has video. Lamborghini has data. Lamborghini will waltz right into your basement and shove it all in your face if it has to.
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They admit the glitchy speeds come from the GPS, but the lap time is valid. The Trofeo Rs used are optional.

Jim is only throwing his 2 cents in because he's made a bold claim about his upcoming supercar on the 'Ring, and likely didn't bank on Lamborghini getting by the 918 so quickly.
 
Lamborghini will make more Huracán variants
the Huracán lineup will be given more muscle, with Speedster and Barchetta versions coming, along with a hardcore SV model and an even hotter GT3 Stradale. There’ll also be a Huracán Targa to complement the roadster and a lightweight Superleggera version.

But the most audacious iteration by far will the Huracán Safari, which will feature height-adjustable suspension, bigger wheel arches, all-terrain body protection panels, all-wheel drive, and four-wheel steering. While not ready to tackle the Rubicon, Lamborghini R & D claims the almost go-anywhere Huracán—which will be available in coupe and roadster form—is absolutely unbeatable on rough Italian C-roads where ground clearance and wheel travel are essential.
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Automobile mag
 
This article reads like an April Fool's piece. Next gen-Hurcan due out in 2021 (1 year after the Aventador Mk. II), so we're expected to believe there will be 6-7 more Huracan models introduced in the next 3 years? A "hotter SV" & "GT3 Stradale" would be the same thing....

Talk of a Jota model for the next gen. Aventador is baloney as well. That model was rumored for the Murcielago era and never came to fruition then, either.
 
McLaren
This article reads like an April Fool's piece. Next gen-Hurcan due out in 2021 (1 year after the Aventador Mk. II), so we're expected to believe there will be 6-7 more Huracan models introduced in the next 3 years?
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I doubt they would make a next gen. Hurcan after only 7 years, it could just be a heavily facelifted version for 2021.
Most of the new variants will be limited production models, some could be unveiled and made at the same time.


Beeblebrox237
Yeah, a Huracan Safari just sounds like they're having us on.
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That's the only one I really want to see happen.
 
RocZX
That's the only one I really want to see happen.
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I agree; if they do it right it'll be an incredible machine and a real driver's car. If they do it wrong it could be one of the worst cars they ever make.
 
Not a fan of the body colored diffuser but I quite like everything else.
 
New backend is the best one since the Gallardo's first facelift. Keep the diffuser black, though.
 

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