Lamborghini in GT5!

[mPWRD]

Ferraris are less common and definitely not overrated(ferrari merchandise looks good by the way). You get a lambo when you want to look cool, but you get a ferrari when you are cool.

Hmm... First off, Ferraris are more common than Lambos. They sold 6587 cars in 2008, compared to around 2400 for Lamborghini. That's a big margin. Secondly, it's a matter of opinion. Personally, if I was given a choice of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini straight up without knowing which car I would get, it would be hard to decide. I would probably choose Lambo because I wouldn't want to risk ending up with a Scaglietti.

And who cares about Ferrari merchandise? That's just for wannabe fanboys. No offense.

 

[sesselpupser]

if I was given a choice of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini straight up without knowing which car I would get, it would be hard to decide. I would probably choose Lambo because I wouldn't want to risk ending up with a Scaglietti.

And who cares about Ferrari merchandise? That's just for wannabe fanboys. No offense.

That made me laugh, mainly because I totally agree. What you have to remember, though, is (according to edmunds.com) Ferrari have the F430, F430 Scuderia, 599, California and 612 Scaglietti, whereas Lamborghini have the Gallardo and Murcielago... Not sure why they don't list the LP 640 and 560-4 (if that's what it is?), though, I was under the impression they were seperate models.

Anyway, Ferrari are the more well-known marque which doesn't really hurt Lamborghini that much when you consider hypercars are often about exclusivity.

For that reason, I'd be surprised if Lamborghini allow PD to put their cars in GT5; the fact that Ferrari are included now has no bearing on it. You can buy pretty much anything painted red with a Ferrari logo on it these days, not so with Lamborghini.

 

[Northstar]

I wouldn't consider Lamborghini a hypercar, they are more like luxury supercars while Ferrari focuses on performance on most of their cars.

 

[McLaren]

I wouldn't consider Lamborghini a hypercar, they are more like luxury supercars while Ferrari focuses on performance on most of their cars.

In these times though, one could consider that backwards. Ferrari likes to promote itself on offering a performance car derived from their F1 knowledge, but the fact is that the cars themselves are more luxury than fast. I'm not saying they're slow by any means, but Ferrari has pushed a lot of effort in the last 10 years on their line up having a pretty high quality interior than the engine itself being a whole lot faster.

Lamborghini? More or less the same, but during the time Ferrari likes to pride itself on its street-legal race cars (360CS, F430S), Lamborghini is achieving equal performance with the luxury at the same time. For any who are lost, I'm referring to the LP560-4 against the Scuderia. The latter is a stripped out, track ready sports car that Ferrari has glorified since it is capable of running next to an Enzo. However, the guys down in Sant'Agata are achieving the same performance levels without sacrificing any creature comforts.

But, I digress. I'm not saying neither company is better than the other, but I do think Ferrari likes to be the luxury supercar maker these days more than Lamborghini given that Ferrari offers 3 cars that are essentially, luxury GT cars, while still offering the F430 & 430S. Lamborghini has yet to offer the same lineup, & instead offer a little bit of sport luxury into their cars.

 

[mPWRD]

I wouldn't consider Lamborghini a hypercar, they are more like luxury supercars while Ferrari focuses on performance on most of their cars.

I half agree with you. Lambos aren't hypercars... that moniker is reserved for things like the Koenigesgg, Veyron, Zonda, that category. But the assertion that Lamborghini focuses on luxury? I've got two letters for you, pal... SV. Especially the new Murcielago. Tell me that's a luxury supercar. And in the same breath, what's a Scaglietti. Please tell me that's performance oriented...

In essence, both Ferrari and Lamborghini have their luxury models and their performance models.

 

[Hyst]

As far as I'm concerned, luxury IS performance.

 

[mPWRD]

In its own way, yes.

 

[RedBaron]

Lambo has the good things from Audi, so quality is on their side now. But their weakest part is the clutch, it's still very weak for so many HP and all wheel drive.

 

[EERS4YEARS]

Since this is a Ferrari vs. Lambo thread now... Ferrari is way better, for 1 reason... they concentrate thier efforts on Racing. When was a Lamoborghini in F1 last? This reason alone is why I am excited Ferrari made it in and im not so worried about Lamborghini, though that brand and their cars would be a great addition IMO. Form Follows Function how else to test functionality other than Racing?

 

[McLaren]

Except the only time Ferrari concentrates their efforts into racing is Formula 1. Ferrari has pulled out of nearly every single other form of motorsport, only offering privateer cars for sale.

And to be honest, the cars they sale now have little to nothing in common with anything like the Formula 1.

 

[johnny dazed]

I just realised, we talk about the cars that aren't in GT4 more than ones that are, because we wonder if they might be in future releases. Intrigue makes better advertising than honesty...

Exactly! Its all about exclusivity for those brands.

Thats why every I think in the boardrooms of Lamborghini and Porsche HQ's, they would be 50% saying "give them the license" - for the mass advertising they get out of it, and 50% saying "don't license the cars" as it only makes them seem less exclusive. GT is the closest thing to real racing and owning a Lamborghini in GT is the closest thing to owning one in real life.

There is one important thing though - Lamborghini and Porsche have already been licensed to forza, so unless they have an exclusive deal with microsoft - (which I doubt they would have, mainly because an exclusive is purely a money thing and for these manufacturers, it wouldnt be so much about money as being able to control and protect their brand) - I would say it is almost certain we will be seeing Lamborgini, Porsche and Maserati in GT5.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

KY/PD: if you're reading this, you better have already gotten these manufacturers (Lamborghini and Porsche)! No, this isn't a threat, it's a passionate demand by many of us GT gamers. So what really are you (guys) waiting for? NFS, Forza, etc flaunt Porsche and Lamborghini (NFS: Shift has them!).....so honestly, be true to the title "Gran Turismo" and add these beasts. They are icons and they are respected highly, are they not? K, cool!

*a small hint wouldn't hurt, though*

 

[JohnBM01]

And if they don't include Lamborghini, I'm not going to get mad. I'm not overly into playing a game for one car company like a lot of others. We're seeing a maturing PD in my view. Compare GT4 to even Tourist Trophy and the two PS3 Gran Turismo titles, and don't forget the E3 teaser. Most of the haters usually think PD can't secure big-name licenses and such. It may be possible that PD COULD acquire Lamborghini to be featured in the game. And if they don't, it's not the end of the world.

I do have good hopes we'll see a Lamborghini for GT5.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Has anyone seen this article before?

http://www.channel4.com/4car/ft/feature/feature/232/3

Third paragraph down read

The Gran Turismo people said "we need to record a Lamborghini Miura, a McLaren F1 and some other car sounds, and have you got anything?"

It's probably a repost, but does show some promise for Lambourghini making an appearance in GT5!

 

[Tired Tyres]

That article was dated 2005.

 

[paskowitz]

Look what I do not get is how the hell NFS, a game that promotes reckless driving, stupid rims, huge spoilers, and offensive body kits, not to mention damage, gets Lambo and Porsche. It just does not make any sense. Brand image HA! If they were so worried about brand image they would never allow a Porsche 911 GT2 to have 22 inch rims, a pink paint job, huge spoiler and massive fenders. It all about EA saying enjoy some Benjamins. It sick really. If I owned a Porsche and I saw NFS Undercover I would insulted.

 

[frank-jaeger]

Well,Porsche is an important and influent automotive manufactor that need to be in the game at any cost !

But when it comes to Lamborghini ,not that much,the brand isn't that impressive and influent !

I wouldn't be affected by the fact that it's not included in the game ! To be honest I would rather have Zondas or Maseratis instead !

 

[McLaren]

Contract Agreements are why EA keep getting these manufacturers & why PD hasn't. They don't all agree to the same terms, and PD is obviously looking for things the manufacturers aren't crazy about.

 

[Northstar]

Contract Agreements are why EA keep getting these manufacturers & why PD hasn't. They don't all agree to the same terms, and PD is obviously looking for things the manufacturers aren't crazy about.

Like what exactly, both manufacturers have been in Forza which has had the only thing people seem to use an excuse. Damage, which I think is more of an issue of Sony/PD not willing to offer enough money to get the licenses.

 

[McLaren]

Like what exactly, both manufacturers have been in Forza which has had the only thing people seem to use an excuse. Damage, which I think is more of an issue of Sony/PD not willing to offer enough money to get the licenses.

It could be anything. It could even be Porsche & Lamborghini still being butt hurt over the GT3 incident.

But, I don't have access to the contracts, so I don't know what the official reason is. All I can assume though as the most reasonable explanation is that somewhere in the contracts, Porsche/Lamborghini & PD aren't agreeing on some issue. Could be damage, physics, money, probably even representation. Until we actually get to see the contracts though (which won't ever happen), that's just the best guess I can come up with.

 

[Jay]

It could be anything. It could even be Porsche & Lamborghini still being butt hurt over the GT3 incident.

But, I don't have access to the contracts, so I don't know what the official reason is. All I can assume though as the most reasonable explanation is that somewhere in the contracts, Porsche/Lamborghini & PD aren't agreeing on some issue. Could be damage, physics, money, probably even representation. Until we actually get to see the contracts though (which won't ever happen), that's just the best guess I can come up with.

Maybe because the last time the Germans, Italians and Japanese worked together it didn't go down so well...




Oh no I didn't... ... I got the door

 

[L_Hamilton]

Well,Porsche is an important and influent automotive manufactor that need to be in the game at any cost !

But when it comes to Lamborghini ,not that much,the brand isn't that impressive and influent !

I wouldn't be affected by the fact that it's not included in the game ! To be honest I would rather have Zondas or Maseratis instead !

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[boiltheocean]

But when it comes to Lamborghini ,not that much,the brand isn't that impressive and influent !

Are you aware of the history between Ferrari? Besides I want a Tractor!

 

[RufusGonePunk]

That article was dated 2005.

Yeah I know, which is why i said it's probably a repost.
But I haven't seen any Murias or McLaren F1s in GT4, so I'm guessing PD went to Jay Leno's garage to archive the sounds of cars, in the hope that one day they'll get the rights to use them in a game.
To me, it says that they are definately pushing to get Lambourghinis in the game.

 

[Black Chamber]

Audi A.G. owns the Lamborghini copyrights.

I think it's funny that Yamauchi-san owns an actual Porsche and yet the rights to them haven't been granted to Polyphony Digital so the vehicles can appear in his games.

I have also heard that Lamborghini would be in GT5 - and this is recent, like within the past 4 months. I think Porsche will be in GT5 and so will the Bugatti Veyron.

But, rumors and here-say what they are - we won't know until Polyphony Digital tells us.

 

[TofuStoreDrift]

I believe I read somewhere long ago that EA had contracts with Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini, that stated that EA had exclusive rights for their cars only on the Playstation 2 gaming console. Sorry, I don't remember the source.

 

[SaberFire]

Yeah I know, which is why i said it's probably a repost.
But I haven't seen any Murias or McLaren F1s in GT4, so I'm guessing PD went to Jay Leno's garage to archive the sounds of cars, in the hope that one day they'll get the rights to use them in a game.
To me, it says that they are definately pushing to get Lambourghinis in the game.

I believe there was a McLaren F1 in GT4? BMW McLaren F1 GTR?

 

[Tired Tyres]

Correct. It was listed as a BMW because PD didn't have the licence for McLaren.

 

[Kryz11]

Well,Porsche is an important and influent automotive manufactor that need to be in the game at any cost !

But when it comes to Lamborghini ,not that much,the brand isn't that impressive and influent !

I wouldn't be affected by the fact that it's not included in the game ! To be honest I would rather have Zondas or Maseratis instead !

Heck yeah, ZONDA any time!
Also I would rather see the new German Super Sports car Gumpert Apollo over any Lambo.

 

[Black Chamber]

I believe I read somewhere long ago that EA had contracts with Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini, that stated that EA had exclusive rights for their cars only on the PlayStation 2 gaming console. Sorry, I don't remember the source.

Well, Turn 10 has the Porsche and Lamborghini rights too - so how has Polyphony Digital not acquired them yet?