Lamborghini Super Trofeo Series

[SlipZtrEm]

I'm still surprised with how much space they give on the chicanes for a clean lap. I'm down to a 1:50.8, and could've swore I dirtied it. Might go back to improve, but if I stay in the top 5%, I'm not too concerned.

 

[gladbecker82]

The Top laps are cheated. That's ruining the challenge when people straight up cut the entire chicane.
Just watch the replay of the leader.

I hope Turn10 picks a track for the next event that isn't broken when it comes to cutting corners.

 

[ImaRobot]

I'm still surprised with how much space they give on the chicanes for a clean lap. I'm down to a 1:50.8, and could've swore I dirtied it. Might go back to improve, but if I stay in the top 5%, I'm not too concerned.

The second chicane is so damn surprising. I felt I was so far off the track that it just didn't seem right. The 1st turn-in on the 1st chicane is also very forgiving as well.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

1:52:588, I figured out the first few corners on this track including the 2nd chicane that was driving me nuts, but I keep losing speed within the last few corners. I don't know how to go faster there.

 

[prousonhairy]

That second chicane, I did the same thing in one of my laps. I was going too fast and cut it on accident and it didn't dirty. It's
Hard to replicate though. That last chicane too, before the long straight and last turn, you can cut way off into the grass on the left, right as you get on to the straight. I'm just glad it's an easy to get car. I'll end up selling all the special liveries anyway, take up too much space.

This is another event, where it's really surprising they don't use the message system in game to inform people that there's an event going on. I mean they have a "news" section In messages they never use. Yeah it's in Forza Hub, but it's in no way obvious that there's any event going on, unless you click on one of those videos. This isn't a complaint at all, I've just always found it weird. You think the best place to keep people in the know, would be in the actual game itself.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

Somehow I got put in the Pinnacle division for this league....yeah...not doing too great.
I did however race against the one and only RBW Triton on Spa...and he got taken out by a corner-cutter.

 

[ClydeYellow]

'tis be the week I get my bronze car. I have no intention on cutting corners. And since I don't have Gold anymore, I don't think I'll manage to get in the top 50% in the Leagues.

 

[mrPetros]

my league special livery

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Is there a special way of getting low times without using manual with clutch or a wheel? I can't get below a 1:57, I use the bumpers for manual.

 

[GTracer38]

Is there a special way of getting low times without using manual with clutch or a wheel? I can't get below a 1:57, I use the bumpers for manual.

I have 'X' and 'B' for the manual changes. Don't go too late under brakes, turn in late and wide, attack the kerbs and straight line the exit making full use of the AWD.

 

[gladbecker82]

I just tried a League Event but its full of A-Holes who turned it into Destruction Derby. Forza has by far the worst community in regards to racing.

Turn10 probably knows it themselves. That's why they gave us the rivals.

It's just annoying that you can't play Multiplayer cause there is an community that's interested in fairness.

 

[RacerPaul]

I just tried a League Event but its full of A-Holes who turned it into Destruction Derby. Forza has by far the worst community in regards to racing

Turn10 probably knows it themselves. That's why they gave us the rivals

It's just annoying that you can't play Multiplayer cause there is an community that's interested in fairness

Yeah, online can be crazy

I entertain myself by trying to avoid the loonies and failing that, give as good as I get when it comes to strong-arming

ps. I never instigate any nuttiness

 

[PJTierney]

Regarding Monza:

If you want to see corner cutting look at the reply of the person in 1st position in the lamborghini week 1 rivals. I thought everyone could do it for a faster time but lap after lap it's called as a dirty lap. I'm not sure how your supposed to post a competitive time against people that are able to do that. Honestly look at the reply and see just how bad it is. There may as well be no corner at All. This is a photo taken of this person at the first and second corner.

The issue here isn't that players are finding exploitable corners, it's that those corners are "clean" in the first place.

It doesn't dirty your lap if you do it right, therefore, as far as the game is concerned, it is not "cheating". People can argue about "the spirit of the rules" all they like but the in-game timing system doesn't care for such things.

The issue here is that when Turn 10 developed the track they weren't 100% thorough with defining clean/dirty lap areas, and there are similar issues on a number of circuits (Hockenheim, Laguna Seca and COTA are the first 3 that spring to mind). In a race these things don't really matter but when it comes to Hotlapping every minor advantage counts and will be exploited by those that are playing to win.

The solution here is for Turn 10 to go through each circuit and adjust exploitable corners wherever possible, not for everybody to play to some honour system where some will make use of what the game allows them to do and others won't. Whether or not that's worth their time however is a different story, as competitive Hotlapping only appeals to a minority of their playerbase.

Personally I don't see these being "fixed" at all. The Hotlapping community is very small (only a few thousand players) and with no Leaderboard API to extract data from it has become pointless to "attack the boards" in the way that Hotlapping teams used to do in the past. As such these exploitable corners only come to light when an event like the Lamborghini Rivals takes place on them.

As far as the game is concerned, if a lap is "clean" it's legitimate, so if you can clip a corner in such a way that it remains "clean" then go ahead and clip it all day. The in-game timing system works in absolutes, it is not an honour system.

To the point:

So what is being done about all the chicane cutting?

Nothing; Turn 10 staff members are also cutting the corners so as far as we're concerned everything is fair game if you get a "clean lap" at the end.

 

[PJTierney]

As many have found out thanks to the Lamborghini Rivals event, there are several corners at Monza that can be cut with the game not giving you a "dirty lap".

Here is a clip where I set a clean lap despite cutting at least 5 corners (lap starts at 0:40).

All of this is "clean"

 

[limesutam]

It seems to me it's in the way you take the chicanes that matter.

I took the second chicane basically diagonally without turning into the second part and got no penalty.

The second time I missed my braking point so I had to turn into the second part and clipped the second curbs speed bumps with my wheels and I got the penality.

Crazy.......

 

[RacerPaul]

Whilst it would be preferable if the chicanes were less forgiving, it is what it is and I suppose we just have to go with it

 

[AudiMan2011]

Down to a 1:53.101 in the time trial by attacking the chicanes more and following you guys' tips on braking points. I'm still messing up the exit of the first chicane so I might get a sub 53 if I can clean it up a bit.

 

[FastFurious77]

I can't wait to be gifted my silver livery Lambo. Please T10 hurry up and send it already! yeah I know I'm too impatient at this point. Silver will do fine until next weeks event in which I will give my best shot to try for a gold. But I feel I'll get silver again. Ahh well can sell one or two Lambo for some money if I do get silver again.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

I can't wait to be gifted my silver livery Lambo. Please T10 hurry up and send it already! yeah I know I'm too impatient at this point. Silver will do fine until next weeks event in which I will give my best shot to try for a gold. But I feel I'll get silver again. Ahh well can sell one or two Lambo for some money if I do get silver again.

You can't sell gifted cars sadly. You can remove them from your garage, but you won't get any money for them.

 

[FastFurious77]

You can't sell gifted cars sadly. You can remove them from your garage, but you won't get any money for them.

Not being able to sell gift cars is a Little bit sad. Was hoping to make some money from it. Such sadness words can not express I get it I didn't buy it using hard earned cash, so I should not be allowed to make money from something given to us for free.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Had a proper go at the League event (Professional division) and Christ on a bike people just can't drive for 🤬. I've climbed to the top 41% at the moment.

 

[JR98]

Did the rivals event and ended up in the top 55% in Europe.

Replay of my lap:


I also tried a league event at Indianpolis reverse. Started on pole but was immediately pitted to the back on the first corner. Managed to make my way up to 5th by the end of the 4 lap race.

 

[Im_Lukas]

I'm going to have so many Lamborghinis by the end of this, not only are there all these prize cars, but there's an incredible amount of great user created liveries as well.

Had some good fun in the league on the first day it was run including awesome races at both Bathurst and surprisingly Rio, during the Rio race we had a moment going 3 wide in the mountain section and all managed to escape with no contact. Out of the 7 races I got done I only received major damage once and looking at the replay I don't think it was intentional and no matter what that person did (after braking slightly too late) someone was getting caught up in it.

Today I did some more racing and it was awful, there was a guy waiting and deliberately wrecking the leaders, and countless people who just had no situational awareness, either that or they thought they can still take the racing line even with someone on their inside. There was a race at Prague so bad I was a good 10 seconds behind the rest of the pack in 18th after turn 1 getting spun around, but by the end of lap 2 was up to 4th for an eventual 3rd place finish. I really do expect better from some (a small minority) of the drivers in pinnacle.

 

[fortbo]

I'm going to have so many Lamborghinis by the end of this, not only are there all these prize cars, but there's an incredible amount of great user created liveries as well.

Had some good fun in the league on the first day it was run including awesome races at both Bathurst and surprisingly Rio, during the Rio race we had a moment going 3 wide in the mountain section and all managed to escape with no contact. Out of the 7 races I got done I only received major damage once and looking at the replay I don't think it was intentional and no matter what that person did (after braking slightly too late) someone was getting caught up in it.

Today I did some more racing and it was awful, there was a guy waiting and deliberately wrecking the leaders, and countless people who just had no situational awareness, either that or they thought they can still take the racing line even with someone on their inside. There was a race at Prague so bad I was a good 10 seconds behind the rest of the pack in 18th after turn 1 getting spun around, but by the end of lap 2 was up to 4th for an eventual 3rd place finish. I really do expect better from some (a small minority) of the drivers in pinnacle.

Yeah, it's been pretty terrible...

 

[prousonhairy]

I gave up on getting any higher time in rivals with the Lambo. I get bored to easily with that, unless it's a car i really like.

I like ghost leagues leagues a lot. You can run your own line and try different lines, and don't have to worry about all the idiots. It can be confusing a bit, but I think it's cool when 4-5 cars are going around the same turn, and you can see who's gaining in that corner, or who your gaining on. I just wish there was more of them going on at once, at least 3-4 classes at the same time. It's kind of lame when there's a ghost league with not much selection in cars available, it gets old quick.

 

[Heldenzeit]

I'm having a great time in the Pinnacle division. These guys are fast.

 

[MaximusBellus]

Aren't these cars just variants of ones already in the game? So you can just get a paintjob and it would look the same right?

 

[gladbecker82]

I'm still at 12% globally. I think I cemented that position. Didn't drop since Friday. On Tuesday the new rivals event appears, here are hopes for tracks like Bathurst or Long Beach were you can cut the track.

 

[FastFurious77]

@ImaRobot Just made a 1:51:783. I shared my video and if anyone wants to add me as a rival friend. I shared my video under the name, 18tropheotop10%, keywords action and racing. Gamertag is MaxPower211983

EDIT 1:32p.m

Just set my best ever lap time. 1:51:253. It puts me in the top 7% meh still not good enough for gold so still a bit upset about that. Now my hands hurt.

 

[Andrew R]

I put 10 laps in with a best of 1:54.483. Went back to manual with no clutch because I just couldn't get the hang of brake and clutch together. I certainly feel slow but this car isn't much fun to me. Only in the top 27% for Asia Pacific though, would like to improve.