LEAKED: all New Mini Spider 2 From Euro patent register
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Look at reviews for the last MINI GP and realise how much it probably won't be a bummer.
It was a lot more appealing when I neglected to think of this.
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Asking a Brit to vote on a Mini is like asking them to pick between Lewis and Nico... it's a no-brainer.
That said, the answer is still just as obvious... hell yes, I would go OMG. As in: "OMG, I can't believe they left the silly tail-fin in..."
I still want to drive one. The Roadster is one of the most fun things I've ever driven, warts and all.
That said, the answer is still just as obvious... hell yes, I would go OMG. As in: "OMG, I can't believe they left the silly tail-fin in..."
I still want to drive one. The Roadster is one of the most fun things I've ever driven, warts and all.
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No. (That obviously wouldn't fit.) Just POWER.
Your opinion on what counts as enough power doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure it does. Most of Europe doesn't have a say when it comes to power adequacy.
The Germans can be excused, however...
... which is why I still have hope for this Mini.
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No, no. My opinion on the ease with which a car can be parked is irrelevant. My opinion on the car's cabin heating also holds no value. Neither does the feel of its manual transmission or its CO2 emissions.
You Europeans with your .02L diesels and your roads as wide as a sofa don't have a valuable opinion on an adequate application of horsepower.
You Europeans with your .02L diesels and your roads as wide as a sofa don't have a valuable opinion on an adequate application of horsepower.
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I've driven loads of different cars over the years, from a 6.0L Holden SSV to an Audi RS4 and a 3.2 Boxster S (which I owned for a year). I can honestly say I had as much of a buzz driving those cars as I did driving a Cooper S on a fun road. Seriously, it's enough power for a car that size.
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Amazingly, there are those of us who can have loads of fun in a car with "only" 190 bhp. Frankly, I don't see any reason for the spider to have anything other than the engines from the Cooper, Cooper S, and Cooper S JCW. It's not about straight line speed, it's about the handling and driving experience. If you want loads of power, buy a muscle car.
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So for the US-spec MINI Spider what would be perfect is an 8L pushrod V8 with 30bhp/litre, mated to a 3 speed auto 'box with a leaf sprung chassis. Right?
The 'Murican application of horsepower.
For it's main market, I hope the 1.5 3cyl is made available for this car. That engine has proven to be great in the hatch.
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So even you Brits are aware of the international stereotype of the typical British living room? Does new furniture even exist over yonder?You retract that statement immediately ..
They're wide enough for a sofa and a bicycle in places...
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The fastest, most powerful european cars cost an arm and a leg. The most efficient cars are .2 milliliter matchboxes with as much torque as a fly squatting over to poop. Everyone drives the latter, because nobody can afford the former. So your opinion that 200hp is an extravagance is useless to us superior Americans. 300hp, interstate master race.
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If American cars were good, they would sell well in other countries. European (and Asian cars too) sell well all over the world, even if they are more expensive.
This must be some sort of trolling.
I never said 200hp is too much, I expect this car to have a 200+hp engine available. 300hp won't happen, and is too much for the car.
The British opinion will be taken far more seriously than the American opinion, BMW even put a Union Jack in the tail-lights.
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1) Motorways exist outside of America. Germany has some of the fastest motorways in the world in the autobahn system.
2) Power to weight ratios don't change when cars cross the Atlantic.
3) There is more to a car than how much power it has.
4) Unless you're such a bad driver that you endanger others' lives when you drive, 120 bhp is plenty for interstate driving in a small, light car. In something bigger and softer like, say, a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry, 170 bhp seems to be plenty for the millions of Americans who drive them.
5) You know that 200 bhp will give more than passable acceleration in a car with the weight of a MINI. The point of this car is not raw power, it's to be fun to drive in a wholistic sense. Minis are fun to drive because they're light and handle well, so they can be driven very quickly down a twisty road while providing the driver with feedback and involvement.
May I ask what car you drive?
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Not in America!
Oh, how convenient that you come in and miss the entire point of why I said 300 was necessary in the first place. If I want a car that's fun to drive in a *holistic sense, I'll buy a Miata or a BRZ, or, you know, a Cooper S. This little sharkfin car has to be holistically insane. You know: full vegan.
And why do you need to know what kind of car I drive, you turncoat british-lover? I won't let a strawman be used in this thread.
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