Legend of the Streets: Initial D GT5 Touge | Initial D Recreation

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So, do the Time Attacks contribute to the whole ranking and experience levels and whatnot?

At the moment, I have not thought of it contributing to the whole ranking system. It'll probably be a straight out leaderboard.
 
Time Attack Week Draft Procedures:

TIME ATTACK WEEK - EP01
Course: TBA

Time Attack Rules & Regulations
- Only Registered vehicle can log an official time.
- All Time attacks to take place at night.
- All Time attacks to be done online.
- Full simulation of tyre wear and full damage.

How to Run the Time Attack

  1. Create a room/Enter a LotS room.
  2. You'll have to get at least a listed rival in the same room.

    Race Settings

    Track Settings
    Track: TBA
    Time: 21:00
    Time Progression: 10

    Event Settings
    No of Laps: 4 Laps
    Boost: No
    Penalty: None
    Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
    Mechanical Damage: Heavy
    Tyre/Fuel Depletion: On
    End Duration: 180 Seconds

    Regulation Settings
    Performance Points: 500PP
    Tyre Restrictions: Sports Hard
    SRF = Off
    Driving Line = Off
    Active Steering = Off
    TSC = Optional
    ASM = Optional
    ABS = Optional​
  3. Start Race with a listed Rival

    When starting race, the first lap will be your warm up lap, and have 3 next laps to set a best lap. It is set at 4 Laps to allow you to set a lap when your tyres are in their top form. Because 1st lap, it'll be a standing start, so you won't get the best lap. You can also use the opportunity in the first lap to warm up your tyres. So second lap and third lap is your best bet on setting a best lap. 4th lap is just a buffer for you to take down your best time and take the photo for time verification.

    Leave a reasonable gap between you and your rivals to prevent rivals from using the draft to shortern their lap times. If you "CRASH", park at the side of the road where you won't get in the way of other players. Don't leave the room as it will cause some lag spike.​
  4. Recording your time and submitting results:
    Take a photo of your time on the top right of the screen, You'll have to capture your best lap and the list of the players in the room. The players in the room will be asked to verify your time if necessary.

    If you forgot to do this, you can save your replay and do a photo capture on the replay.​
  5. Repeat Time Attack
    You can repeat the time attack just as long as you meet the requirements above.​


I think this will work well and i'm looking foward to it.

This honestly sounds like a lot of coordination for just time attacks. Maybe just open a lobby with a specific track and just go at it in free race mode? whoever sets the best time before the lobby is closed wins?

I think if you only have 4 laps to set a best time that will be better. So everyone gets an equal chance.

Timber, are we going to limit the amount of time attacks you can do? One a day or one a week?
 
I think if you only have 4 laps to set a best time that will be better. So everyone gets an equal chance.

Timber, are we going to limit the amount of time attacks you can do? One a day or one a week?

At this moment, no limit on the amount of time attacks you can do.

Let's try without a limit first. The people just have one week to tune specifically to the track (if you do that, well, I don't) and put the time down. This will encourage more people to continue to join a LotS room during that week and chill out with other LotS players.

The tuning restrictions are exactly the same as the normal seasons.
 
I get ya. I just thought that having everyone follow the rules of giving everyone else 20 seconds of space during a 4 lap race may get complecated with a room full of members. You have to assume that
1. everyone will join the track before you start the race.
2. everyone will have coordinated who goes first, second, third, etc.
3. You have to set the timer so that whoevever finishes first doesnt lock out the other players from finishing.
4. You can only have so many people in a room, if you're going to be a witness you're going to have to do it a couple times in different rooms (most likely given we have 40+ registered members).

Or we can just upload replays during our own time. I get that it's a an extension of one of the ideas I suggested, but I'm not sure it'll work too well. Although i do like the idea of all of us getting together and watching each other.
 
Feel free to drop me a private message when official time attacks and battles start.
 
1. everyone will join the track before you start the race.
Set scheduled race time, this will solve this problem. If they are late, they will miss it.

2. everyone will have coordinated who goes first, second, third, etc.
Depending on how many players on the map, this really have to go with the feel and chemistry of the people on track.

3. You have to set the timer so that whoevever finishes first doesnt lock out the other players from finishing.
180 seconds = 3 mins
So far using statistics, at the 4th lap, the tyres are little bit worn out already. Lap 2 and Lap 3 is the laps with the best chance to set a best lap. Other players should have already finished lap 3 when the first player passes the finish line at Lap 4.

4. You can only have so many people in a room, if you're going to be a witness you're going to have to do it a couple times in different rooms (most likely given we have 40+ registered members).
I'm going to do it like the battle style, no set time to get everyone together.
I'm not optismistic of expecting 40 people to show up at one time as well, the most I've got was about 8 LotS regulars at a time in my room so far.

I get ya. I just thought that having everyone follow the rules of giving everyone else 20 seconds of space during a 4 lap race may get complecated with a room full of members.

Yes, the 20 second space seems quite a lot, but I think a 3 1/2 min lap track, I think you can have like 10 players spaced out quite evenly. Maybe don't have to set a '20' second space. just a space reasonable which can be seen from the minimap.

I cannot yet imagine a room filled with 16 LotS players just yet... sorry for my lack of faith! lol.
 
Time Attack Test Room Up at:
1472-4710-9866-6906-1278

I left the room.
 
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If anyone can post me some of there Mt Akina lap times and what car they did it in, it would help me out a lot.. im under going some 500pp testing there of all different car and drive trains..
 
I get ya. I just thought that having everyone follow the rules of giving everyone else 20 seconds of space during a 4 lap race may get complecated with a room full of members. You have to assume that
1. everyone will join the track before you start the race.
2. everyone will have coordinated who goes first, second, third, etc.
3. You have to set the timer so that whoevever finishes first doesnt lock out the other players from finishing.
4. You can only have so many people in a room, if you're going to be a witness you're going to have to do it a couple times in different rooms (most likely given we have 40+ registered members).

Or we can just upload replays during our own time. I get that it's a an extension of one of the ideas I suggested, but I'm not sure it'll work too well. Although i do like the idea of all of us getting together and watching each other.

You could have more than one person doing a time attack at the same time. eg. 4 persons want to time attack, start race, and then give the first car a 15-20 second lead (maybe more maybe less), then the 2nd car goes(wait 15-20 seconds),then 3rd then 4th (you get the idea). Sort of like rally.
 
So I cant submit a Time Attack if I'm in a online lounge free running with people from LotS, It HAS to be a official race with 4 laps?

I think the people here are honest enough to confirm times, therefor we wouldn't need to submit a picture.

If your fastest lap is the one showing and other people want to see what they are running, then we can reset the lounge and the people who have confirmed times will not run "hot laps". Then every one in the room will have a chance to confirm their time, and if your running with 4-5 people from LotS to confirm the better.

While we are practicing or learning someones track it pretty much like a Time attack. We all watch to see what people can run, its how I judge an opponents skill. For example: with my race with Hannibaal, He beat me fair and square on his home course. Afterwards we had a time attck session. Gave me a chance to fine tune and do things I didnt do In the race lol. I learned that our times were really close, and knew it would come down to driver skill and how well you can handle the pressure. Basicly TIME ATTACK=GOOD, get a chance to know your opponent it will make you faster in the next season.
 
Date: 22/07/2011
Rival 1: GTP_TimberW
Rival 2: SolidSnake7735
Course: Ushimine
Batte Style: CMSD
Winner: GTP_TimberW
Battle Rating: 5 out of 5

I will post comments tomorrow, sleep time.
 
I think it'll be better this way maybe... If you're running a Gold time, you must keep within 1 second gap, and if your opponent is running a Bronze time, you must lead him 3 seconds in order to win. On the other side, your bronze opponent just needs to keep behind you (Gold) by 3 second gap and wins you if he leads you by more than 1 second.


Im sorry im still confused.

So Im gold and im racing a bronze, he leads first. He Leads at the end of lap 1by 1.001sec. I lose?

Im gold and im racing a bronze, I lead first. I lead him by 2.999 sec we go another round?

Okay, will people who choose to run gold have a Win Bonus of some sort? Clearly a Bronze racer has an advantage. What Im saying is someone like Wardez or MONSTAR could choose to be a bronze racer and if I were gold, they would be UNBEATABLE. But if there was some sort of points bonus for a gold beating a bronze or a silver beating a bronze, it would be worth the risk and the challenge.
 
For the record I just got a 3:12.361 on Horsefish Pass, I'm pretty pleased with it and would love to see someone beat it.
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Edit: MOPAR-383 got close but not close enough
 
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I was wondering.... When I usually use a fully customize transmission, I use the stock gear ratio's and change the final ratio to that of a real life aftermarket one. Example stock NSX type R final ratio is 4.235 and change it to 4.44 by OS Giken. I try to set up cars as realistically as possible, but I was wondering if this may be valid in this "touge battle?" I am expecting a no, but I figured I ask :)
 
I was wondering.... When I usually use a fully customize transmission, I use the stock gear ratio's and change the final ratio to that of a real life aftermarket one. Example stock NSX type R final ratio is 4.235 and change it to 4.44 by OS Giken. I try to set up cars as realistically as possible, but I was wondering if this may be valid in this "touge battle?" I am expecting a no, but I figured I ask :)

Custom trannys are banned, all details about LotS is on the First post.

Thank you.
 
Custom trannys are banned, all details about LotS is on the First post.

Thank you.

I read that part, but I figured I ask anyway. What about close ratio gear kits?

Edit: Or is that considered custom as well? Thank you for the quick reply
 
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Looking at some of the cars on the rival list i think i might have a tough task ahead
 
I can't seem to find my thumb drive which contains the main spreadsheet for calculations for leaderboard... I'm sure I saw it yesterday... well, you guys just have to wait.... LOL...

Im sorry im still confused.

So Im gold and im racing a bronze, he leads first. He Leads at the end of lap 1by 1.001sec. I lose?

Im gold and im racing a bronze, I lead first. I lead him by 2.999 sec we go another round?

Yes, your analysis is correct.

Okay, will people who choose to run gold have a Win Bonus of some sort? Clearly a Bronze racer has an advantage. What Im saying is someone like Wardez or MONSTAR could choose to be a bronze racer and if I were gold, they would be UNBEATABLE. But if there was some sort of points bonus for a gold beating a bronze or a silver beating a bronze, it would be worth the risk and the challenge.

I think I'll keep the scoring system the same at the moment, there won't be any bonuses, cause of the calucations of the scores and how complex it will be. Yes, a Bronze racer will have an advantage over a Gold racer if skill levels are similar. And you are right, according to your statement above, Wardez and MONSTAR would be unbeatable if you're a Gold racer and they are Bronze racer.

This haven't been thought throughly yet. But you've raised an interesting point. Of course, I wouldn't allow something like this to be exploited. If we are going to take this path, then I'll have to figure out a way to assign the Gold/Silver/Bronze ranking to each racer. Clearly the current leaders would have to run Gold times. People like you, MONSTAR, Wardez will definitetly be in the GOLD catergory.

I think a good way to determine whether a player should be a Gold/Silver/Bronze player is using a combination of the number of races raced and the win/lose ratio.

Another way is from player feedback. Meaning that a player would be able to roughly judge where they should be after having a couple of races. If a Bronze racer is constantly faster than many of the other Bronze racers in the group, he/she will be promoted to the Silver racer catergory. However, this may only be applicable only after the person have been in a full season.

And for new players vs season veterans, I think deciding a mutual gap between the two players before battling is better, and have both players use the same gap.

I was wondering.... When I usually use a fully customize transmission, I use the stock gear ratio's and change the final ratio to that of a real life aftermarket one. Example stock NSX type R final ratio is 4.235 and change it to 4.44 by OS Giken. I try to set up cars as realistically as possible, but I was wondering if this may be valid in this "touge battle?" I am expecting a no, but I figured I ask :)

Welcome to Legend of the Streets badboy. :)

Short answer is No. Long answer is it depends. Final answer is No.

I'll be great if we could run proper realistic gear ratios. Check out RLT garage, the LEXUS IS200 build, it's using the fully customizable transmission to replicate a stock 6-speed transmission.

The main reason I banned fully customizable transmission is that I don't want people to be running 4/5/6th gears on tight hairpin curves. It's just impractical and unrealistic and the easiest way to prevent this without opening a can of worms is to ban fully customizable transmission altogether.

Is the gran turismo 350Z RS aloud to run in lots??

yes, and list is updated.

InitialR
So I cant submit a Time Attack if I'm in a online lounge free running with people from LotS, It HAS to be a official race with 4 laps?

I think the people here are honest enough to confirm times, therefor we wouldn't need to submit a picture.

If your fastest lap is the one showing and other people want to see what they are running, then we can reset the lounge and the people who have confirmed times will not run "hot laps". Then every one in the room will have a chance to confirm their time, and if your running with 4-5 people from LotS to confirm the better.

While we are practicing or learning someones track it pretty much like a Time attack. We all watch to see what people can run, its how I judge an opponents skill. For example: with my race with Hannibaal, He beat me fair and square on his home course. Afterwards we had a time attck session. Gave me a chance to fine tune and do things I didnt do In the race lol. I learned that our times were really close, and knew it would come down to driver skill and how well you can handle the pressure. Basicly TIME ATTACK=GOOD, get a chance to know your opponent it will make you faster in the next season.

Yeap, that's another good way of doing it. You'll have to cope with randoms coming in and out though.

I just thought it'll be interesting to see how people would make a best lap at night. The method you described above, will work, but the time of day is not really restricted. Most people, learning the track at day time is better. And during the day, I personally think a better time can be archived.

And I also thought it'll be cool to be able to record your time attack lap as well.

Also, I want to find out when someone leaves a race. How does the lag spike works, does it actually affect you or just affects the other opponents you see on the same race.
 
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