Legend of the Streets: Initial D GT5 Touge | Initial D Recreation

[vasho]

But how will we know? Replay? I doubt everyone will post a replay.g

I think a screenshot should be enough of the Time Attack. But than again it could have been achived with a different car which is not allowed. So this will be hard to police if at all possible.
Nothing else than to trust the drivers.
Or if the Time Attacks would be done when other registered players are there to watch the attempt.

To upload a hole video is i think is not an option.

 

[dudeguy]

I think a screenshot should be enough of the Time Attack. But than again it could have been achived with a different car which is not allowed. So this will be hard to police if at all possible.
Nothing else than to trust the drivers.
Or if the Time Attacks would be done when other registered players are there to watch the attempt.

To upload a hole video is i think is not an option.

i was thinking that too. maybe timber can just find players he can trust to witness the attempts. from all different time zones. or they can get other rivals in the room too confirm like the submission results.

 

[MONSTAR-1]

It's not hard to up a whole lap. Wardez uploaded our 3 lap battle. Only takes 20 mins form start to finish. A screen shot won't cut it either as the car could be 690 pp

 

[sicbeing]

I think 4 weeks is a good time, but in my opinion we should just use months as seasons. I know we would have to wait another week or so, but maybe we could use this last week to work out the details with time attacks.

I think that either:
1. Time attacks have to be done on the fly and when TimberW has time to witness (or other members he deems trustworthy to witness).

or

2. Have to be done with full uploaded replays.

I think the bonus for time attacks should be nothing more than recognition. We could have another section of the first post dedicated to course time records (and possibly list more than just 1st place times).

How many people are in favor of the gold / silver / bronze time differences? i don't have anything really against them, but I think that the whole league should adhere to the same rules. It's also my opinion that during cat and mouse 3 lap battles, the time shouldn't shorten as the race progresses. I think it should be 3 seconds, 3 seconds, and then if there is a lap 3, it's side by side and whoever comes out first (whether you roll into the first turn or start from grip).

 

[Stavingo]

The easiest way to police the time attacks is at the start menu within time attack mode where it shows all times for all cars on each tracks, no way of cheating it with another car and whatnot besides maybe PP level.

 

[MONSTAR-1]

I'm not sure on that last point you made CRIBANOX. Some battles I've had it's been almost impossible to pass. Time splits are the way to go. Pretty simple really.

 

[yellomello]

I can not compete until 8th not much internet left

 

[TimberW]

I already have an idea of how to sustain LotS for the long haul. If it continues like this, after a while it'll get boring.

So, this is what I'll propose.

Pre-season - 3 weeks <- we are here now in the final week
Time Attack week - 1 week <- next week
Season 1 - 4 weeks <- 1st August
Time Attack week - 1 week
Mid-season - 2/3 weeks
Time Attack week - 1 week
Season 2 - 4 weeks

Time Attack week will be only one course. Course selection will be the most used map during the last season. And time attack cars can only be from the previous season or for the next season and it must be a registered car, meaning a car listed on the rivals list. But one player can only register one car and one best time during the time attack week. Official times will be completed that week.

 

[AudiMan2011]

I'm new to the forum but i would like to express an interest in this.

 

[TimberW]

I'm new to the forum but i would like to express an interest in this.

Welcome AudiMan. And your first post here as well! Read the green text in post 2 and use the "Become a Rival" form to register your car.

Hope you'll stick around and have lots of LotS fun! Pun intended.

How many people are in favor of the gold / silver / bronze time differences? i don't have anything really against them, but I think that the whole league should adhere to the same rules. It's also my opinion that during cat and mouse 3 lap battles, the time shouldn't shorten as the race progresses. I think it should be 3 seconds, 3 seconds, and then if there is a lap 3, it's side by side and whoever comes out first (whether you roll into the first turn or start from grip).

I'm not sure on that last point you made CRIBANOX. Some battles I've had it's been almost impossible to pass. Time splits are the way to go. Pretty simple really.

I will leave it to the players to decide. The different gaps is to cater to different level players, because 3 second gap will be too much for season veterns. And for beginners, 1 second gap is really too small.

And yes some tracks, possibility of passing is really small. Season players may prefer Cat & Mouse - Sudden Death. And have a fixed gap.
The main reason for Cat & Mouse - 3 Laps is for players who have limited time to be able to get a result within a certain time.

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For the Time Attack. I've got an idea of running it and I'll write it up soon. But I'll need someone to help me do some testing on how to run it.

The reason I make it one official week is for logistics purposes as well as for the benefit of the players of LotS. So I just have to manage one track at a time. And also, other players will all be able to compete against each other in the same track. So it won't be too divided, especially since we're a small community.

 

[TimberW]

Room up at....
1472-6399-8451-1928-3708

I'm not there anymore....

 

[redsuns-vtec]

im not really sure whats goin on but im in on the registeration forum it says gtplanet post no what should i write?

 

[TimberW]

im not really sure whats goin on but im in on the registeration forum it says gtplanet post no what should i write?

It's not used anymore, I'll remove it from the form...
cheers!!

 

[GTP_ProjectR]

Rules and regulations are looking very good. Maybe we all could pick what we wanted to run like gold silver or bronze and we have to stick with that all season then at the end of the season depending on well or bad you did you could change it. I think if you challenge someone who is bronze and you are gold, you would run on a bronze time gap, but if a bronze racer was to challenge me, we would run on a gold time gap. Just an Idea, Timber I like everything youve done with the rules so far. You should announce what track well race on, on aug 1st so nobody can be practicing already

 

[InitialR]

Man, you're confusing everyone, lol, you should register a new user on GTP!

Okay

 

[sicbeing]

I'm not sure on that last point you made CRIBANOX. Some battles I've had it's been almost impossible to pass. Time splits are the way to go. Pretty simple really.

I see your point on that. I Don't really think in Initial D Ive ever seen a specific "3 lap" rule. If it were up to me, we would just keep going and going until someone loses. I know we have that option but I also know most people may not go for it. Maybe Ill just ask to do it my way everytime and see what happens (endurance cat and mouse style).

 

[TimberW]

I see your point on that. I Don't really think in Initial D Ive ever seen a specific "3 lap" rule. If it were up to me, we would just keep going and going until someone loses. I know we have that option but I also know most people may not go for it. Maybe Ill just ask to do it my way everytime and see what happens (endurance cat and mouse style).

Yes, Initial D doesn't have the 3 lap rule.
The pure initial d style is called Cat & Mouse - Sudden Death (CMSD). Yeah... we just had a great battle just now... CMSD... 4 rounds.
You may be surprised, I think season players will go for the CMSD more.

Rules and regulations are looking very good. Maybe we all could pick what we wanted to run like gold silver or bronze and we have to stick with that all season then at the end of the season depending on well or bad you did you could change it. I think if you challenge someone who is bronze and you are gold, you would run on a bronze time gap, but if a bronze racer was to challenge me, we would run on a gold time gap.

I think it'll be better this way maybe... If you're running a Gold time, you must keep within 1 second gap, and if your opponent is running a Bronze time, you must lead him 3 seconds in order to win. On the other side, your bronze opponent just needs to keep behind you (Gold) by 3 second gap and wins you if he leads you by more than 1 second.

You should announce what track well race on, on aug 1st so nobody can be practicing already

Map choices for Season 1 will be the same as the pre-season, the tracks are all rival chosen. There won't be a set maps to choose from. The most popular/battled map from that season will be used for the time attack week.

 

[Winters Noble]

Battle Results
Date: 20/07/11
Rival 1:xXHannibaalXx
Rival 2:Wynter92
Course:Ushimine
Winner: xXHannibaalXx
Battle Rating:5 of5

That was a long battle. 4 laps on a twisty course with 2 rotary cars. My tires were completely shredded at the end, but it was worth it.

 

[sicbeing]

any rooms up?

EDIT I created a room, will post number soon unless someone has one up already.

1472 - 6118 - 3701 - 4257 - 1643

 

[sicbeing]

Date: 20/07/11
Rival 1: Cribanox(H)

Rival 2: Mopar-383

Course: Momo Mountain
Batte Style: 3 lap
Winner: Mopar-383
Battle Rating: 5 out of 5

comments: I learned a hard lesson today about learning how to tune cars. My new car has stock suspension and lsd. Im probably not going to be doing anymore racing until I can figure out how tuning can help me be faster. I thought I was going to win hands down because it was my home course and he only had one practice lap. I did ok on the first go, he lead and i kept about a 1 second gap the entire thing. 2nd lap I lead he ended up passing me and then kept the lead the rest of the course. The afterthough is I think I did really well for running a stock suspension and lsd on an R34 vs his tuned impreza. If I ever figure out how to tune cars I guess Ill be back.

 

[mopar-440]

Submission Results:
Date:19/07/11
Rival 1:mopar-383
Rival 2:Cribanox
Course: unkown, Cribanox home track
Battle Style:3 lap cat & mouse
Winner:mopar-383
Battle Rating: 5 of 5
Lap 1:mopar leads gained 1.7 second
lap 2: Crib leads then was passed on a tight corner due to possible car damage (i think)
Good luck to Crib on his next battle

 

[DK]

Sorry guys, I might not be able to commit to this. My mum is nagging at me about electricity bills, and with a series like this the amount of time I could spend racing is indefinite, and obviously my PS3 will run up high bills.

 

[TimberW]

Sorry guys, I might not be able to commit to this. My mum is nagging at me about electricity bills, and with a series like this the amount of time I could spend racing is indefinite, and obviously my PS3 will run up high bills.

Key word 'might'. Well, you can still register and come on once a while for some good fun. Never the less, the best thing first is to listen to your mom!

 

[DK]

Yeah, I might pop in for battles now and again, just exhibition races really.

 

[SolidSnake7735]

Results Submission
Rival1: SolidSnake7735
Rival2: Walternate420
Track: Gran Tougismo (by Snake)
Winner: Walternate420

Rating 5*

Comments: Clean racer, very fun race and close all the way until one crash screwed me over. Definitely looking forward to a rematch soon

 

[TimberW]

Time Attack Week Draft Procedures:

TIME ATTACK WEEK - EP01
Course: TBA

Time Attack Rules & Regulations
- Only Registered vehicle can log an official time.
- All Time attacks to take place at night.
- All Time attacks to be done online.
- Full simulation of tyre wear and full damage.

How to Run the Time Attack

1. Create a room/Enter a LotS room.
2. You'll have to get at least a listed rival in the same room.
   
   Race Settings
   
   
   Track Settings
   Track: TBA
   Time: 21:00
   Time Progression: 10
   
   Event Settings
   No of Laps: 4 Laps
   Boost: No
   Penalty: None
   Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
   Mechanical Damage: Heavy
   Tyre/Fuel Depletion: On
   End Duration: 180 Seconds
   
   Regulation Settings
   Performance Points: 500PP
   Tyre Restrictions: Sports Hard
   SRF = Off
   Driving Line = Off
   Active Steering = Off
   TSC = Optional
   ASM = Optional
   ABS = Optional​
3. Start Race with a listed Rival
   
   
   When starting race, the first lap will be your warm up lap, and have 3 next laps to set a best lap. It is set at 4 Laps to allow you to set a lap when your tyres are in their top form. Because 1st lap, it'll be a standing start, so you won't get the best lap. You can also use the opportunity in the first lap to warm up your tyres. So second lap and third lap is your best bet on setting a best lap. 4th lap is just a buffer for you to take down your best time and take the photo for time verification.
   
   Leave a reasonable gap between you and your rivals to prevent rivals from using the draft to shortern their lap times. If you "CRASH", park at the side of the road where you won't get in the way of other players. Don't leave the room as it will cause some lag spike.​
4. Recording your time and submitting results:
   
   Take a photo of your time on the top right of the screen, You'll have to capture your best lap and the list of the players in the room. The players in the room will be asked to verify your time if necessary.
   
   If you forgot to do this, you can save your replay and do a photo capture on the replay.​
5. Repeat Time Attack
   
   You can repeat the time attack just as long as you meet the requirements above.​

​

 

[walternate420]

Results Submission
Rival1: SolidSnake7735
Rival2: Walternate420
Track: Gran Tougismo (by Snake)
Winner: Walternate420

Rating 5*

Comments: Clean racer, very fun race and close all the way until one crash screwed me over. Definitely looking forward to a rematch soon

Indeed very fun race just before we started he was in my trunk pressure on from the gate threw me off a bit i kept my lead of .2 seconds for about 10 or 11 turns, then he hit a wall on his right side making his car jerky and no longer fluid I ended up puling off a 9 second lead after round 1. I suggested he pit before round 2 which fixed his suspension but put him on cold tires. I messed up a little on round 2 by taking it easy at the beginning he got a 2 seconds lead pretty quick got lucky though he under steered 2 corners. One helped me catch up and the other I passed him watching the replay just before I passed he had damaged his back right suspension and not long after his front left ending the race. For now at least.
Rating 5* very clean and close race

 

[sicbeing]

Time Attack Week Draft Procedures:

TIME ATTACK WEEK - EP01
Course: TBA

Time Attack Rules & Regulations
- Only Registered vehicle can log an official time.
- All Time attacks to take place at night.
- All Time attacks to be done online.
- Full simulation of tyre wear and full damage.

How to Run the Time Attack

1. Create a room/Enter a LotS room.
2. You'll have to get at least a listed rival in the same room.

Set the room settings to the following:

Performance Points: 500PP
Tyre Resitriction: Sports Hard
SRF = Off
Active Steering = Off
Driving Line = Off

Event Settings
No of Laps 4 Laps
Damage = Heavy
Grip Reduction = Real
Tyre/Fuel Depletion = On
End Duration = 180 Seconds

Start Race

When starting race, the first lap will be your warm up lap, and have 3 next laps to set a best lap. The first rival will start run when the timer goes. The second rival will start after 20 sec, the third rival will start after 40 sec on the timer, etc.

This is to prevent rivals from using the draft to shortern their lap times. If you "CRASH", park at the side of the road where you won't get in the way of other players. Don't leave the room as it will cause some lag spike.

How to submit your best time.

Take a photo of your time on the top right of the screen, You'll have to capture your best lap and the list of the players in the room. The players in the room will be asked to verify your time when necessary.

You can repeat the time attack just as long as you meet the requirements above.

This honestly sounds like a lot of coordination for just time attacks. Maybe just open a lobby with a specific track and just go at it in free race mode? whoever sets the best time before the lobby is closed wins?

 

[TimberW]

This honestly sounds like a lot of coordination for just time attacks. Maybe just open a lobby with a specific track and just go at it in free race mode? whoever sets the best time before the lobby is closed wins?

I think that either:
1. Time attacks have to be done on the fly and when TimberW has time to witness (or other members he deems trustworthy to witness).

It's an expansion of your suggestion actually. I don't have that much time to witness. So this way everyone can be a judge of the time attack.

The thing about free run is that you can only see the best lap set, you can't see the laps of other players.

I've done some testing with the live timing yesterday which records best lap during free run. It has a problem because you must be "watching the race" when a player crosses the starting lap going into free run lap 2 for it to start recording and displaying data.

I got some of the LotS players to do me a lap. After they did the lap, apart from the best lap, I can't work out the second best lap, as it is not recorded in the live timing view during free run mode. And if thy go to the lobby and come back, their data in the free run live timing is reset as well.

I made it 4 Laps to allow you to set a lap when your tyres are in their top form. Cause 1st lap, it'll be a standing start, so you won't get the best lap. You can also use the opportunity in the first lap to warm up your tyres. So second lap and third lap is your best bet on setting a best lap. 4th lap is just a buffer for you to take down your best time and take the photo for time verification.

I think that's easier than uploading a full video.

 

[Stavingo]

So, do the Time Attacks contribute to the whole ranking and experience levels and whatnot?