Legendary cars dealer refresh
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The wait for the CLK LM is excruciating...🤷
I'm guessing it will be there this week sometime.. though PD appears to have mixed up the order or something? (Old estimate was it would be there 15 June or so) but with the Lamborghini Miura up there now (I think it was supposed to be the 12th?, and it's 3 cars between it and the CLK LM), cars may he changing faster? ( I'm guessing here 😬)
I'm guessing it will be there this week sometime.. though PD appears to have mixed up the order or something? (Old estimate was it would be there 15 June or so) but with the Lamborghini Miura up there now (I think it was supposed to be the 12th?, and it's 3 cars between it and the CLK LM), cars may he changing faster? ( I'm guessing here 😬)
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- Wales
Only that you’re right, it’s absolutely mental, if that’s what you were getting at...
Some obese, toupee’d, golfing-trousered American guy wth a ceramic-toothed smile at Hagerty’s has decided these things. Probably.
Presumably Hagerty will increase the insurance premiums of its customers if the values of the cars they have insured with them go up. So it’s not like they have a vested interest in seeing those values rise or anything, is it? And they can’t manipulate perceptions of those values that might end up influencing real prices in any way, can they? Oh, wait...
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- MI
How bizarre to blame some real life insurance company for something you're not happy about within your game.
I'm pretty sure Hagerty has enough to do in the real world then to worry about some game. They have enough influence in this as Michelin does with this horrible tire model in game as well.
If you want to blame someone, why wouldn't you blame PD? Where the blame is due? GT7 never required real life prices to work in what's considered a broken in game economy as is.
I'm pretty sure Hagerty has enough to do in the real world then to worry about some game. They have enough influence in this as Michelin does with this horrible tire model in game as well.
If you want to blame someone, why wouldn't you blame PD? Where the blame is due? GT7 never required real life prices to work in what's considered a broken in game economy as is.
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Answer CustomX’s question then.
Who decided F40 prices nearly doubled since the games’s launch? Hagerty, right? They should show us their working. Some evidence.
Nobody’s letting PD off the hook here either; a stupid decision to outsource control of prices in the game to a third party. Even if Hagerty are paying for the privilege. I hope it backfires very badly for them.
The blame ultimately lies with PD for agreeing to this partnership in the first place, a partnership that adds absolutely no value to the game for the player. There has been countless wishlists over the years here, I've never once seen anyone suggest dynamically priced cars based on real life inflation as a request. Nobody asked for it. Nobody wanted it. PD added it because it was obviously a lucrative deal for them, $ wise.
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yeah, this will be the last time I purchase a game in this series. Ultimately, there is just too much stuff in this game that is only there for the benefit of their "partners" and themselves. I am feeling way too much like the commodity being sold rather than the customer being catered to.
And I think that's accurate. Polyphony is simply more concerned with selling us, their user base, to Sony and the GT sponsors, than they are with making a genuinely fun or accurate driving game.
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You'll have to fill us in with the details.
Is a 1991 Ferrari worth more than an '89 model? Do cars go for higher prices in the US? What colours were the cars and what effect does that have on the value? Is the timing of the year important i.e do people pay more coming into the American/European summer months as opposed to in winter?
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All used cars fluctuate in price, and one off's can spike heavily in one way depending on condition/individual rarity but insurers do NOT just use one sale to value cars. You don't see a car sell for a price and say OK yep, that's what they're all worth now.
As a moving average over the last 5 years the price of an F40 has barely changed. There has been a very tiny increase since 2021 but only by 200K, back to where it was in 2019.
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As a moving average over the last 5 years the price of an F40 has barely changed. There has been a very tiny increase since 2021 but only by 200K, back to where it was in 2019.
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I'm going to say no. lol
It's OK to be mad, we all are. We all got duped and played. Hagerty isn't tarnishing PD. Quite the other way around really. PD is tarnishing Hagerty's name by making people angry with it in game.
I live here in Michigan. Hagerty is in Traverse City. Their main goal was to provide an affordable way to insure vintage, collectable and/or sports cars so that the owner felt comfortable to drive their car rather than lock it away in a garage.
We need to be mad at PD however and not the companies that are actually doing good for people.
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- RichiPuppy
Yeah, so it isn’t Hagerty that is the problem here, it is that the F40 was originally a very low price in the game and has been adjusted to a more accurate price.
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The exotic market is a finicky beast in that regard, though; some cars do start to dictate the movement of the market depending on how the last one sells. You can see it a bit there w/ the F40s in the last year.All used cars fluctuate in price, and one off's can spike heavily in one way depending on condition/individual rarity but insurers do NOT just use one sale to value cars. You don't see a car sell for a price and say OK yep, that's what they're all worth now.
As a moving average over the last 5 years the price of an F40 has barely changed. There has been a very tiny increase since 2021 but only by 200K, back to where it was in 2019.
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As for the discussion, the F40 moving to $2.6m isn't the issue when it comes to real life replication; that's a legitimate figure in the ballpark for a F40 these days. The issue is the car originally pricing at $1.3m, a price point the cars haven't been at it for a few years.
So, either Hagerty messed up their evaluation first time around, or PD just simply use Hagerty as a branding deal & dictate the prices as they see fit. I would probably go with PD.
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An important point though is that the game doesn't use USD, it uses credits. When I looked up the Hagerty valuations for cars online they sometimes directly correlated to the dollar prices, but for some cars they were quite a bit different. So who knows what their $ to CR conversion rate is, or how they apply it.
Right now according to their website Hagerty values the 1992 F40 at between $1.1M and $2.4M, depending on condition.
They all do, obviously, but as I say when I was estimating prices of cars sometimes they matched the lower estimate, sometimes the higher one. Sometimes beyond them. There seemed to be no logic to it which price they went with.Well I have to say the F40 in GT7 looks like a mint example
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The car hovers around $2.4-2.6m globally, so 2.6m credits sounds reasonable enough to me.
I tried looking for that evaluation, but the only thing I can find is their page showing the car in Concours, Excellent, Good, & Fair condition est.s. Only Good Condition is viewable for me at $2.1m, with the rest wanting me to sign up. I can say from past observation though, there is no F40 in the US available anywhere near that $1.1m figure so I'm lost on how they got such a figure. I don't think you can buy a F40 in the US for under $1.8-$2m, either; the lowest price recently was $1.6m for a 16,000 mile car. However, BaT had one that could not reach reserve at $1.96m at 26,000 miles (although, that was an original UK car).
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- the-1st-hawkeyez
I agree. The prices literally have nothing to do with the gameplay. It’s fun earning the cars but it feels like there’s no light at the end of the tunnel for casual gamers. Me and my friends race online a few times a weeknight and sometimes on the weekend even and we are done the cafe menu, some circuit experiences as well. It would be nice to earn more for online race lobbies.
I can do a Ferrari challenge and earn $157,000 including clean race bonus, for 5 laps, approx 10 minutes of racing. I do the same track online and take first with clean race bonus and it’s like here’s $25,000 lol. FU PD lol
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I hope the F40 doesnt come with a 10M price when it comes back.
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- Grand_Slammin
Amazing. One of the fastest gr 2 cars. A tad bit understeer to deal with. That’s it.
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More accurately, marketing language to get people to buy into their brand.
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- GTP_Eggstor
The "PD will gladly give you one Hagerty's car Tuesday night for a hamburger tonight" Monday night refresh:
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