Legendary cars dealer refresh

[SSQES]

The prices are now simply not realistic. A 250GTO isn't only 2M more than a Mclaren F1 in real life. So that's the whole thing out of the window, and in reality, they just made certain cars more realistic, others not.

This is no ending : Imagine we lower the F1 price to like 11M, we would still "complain" about the fact the car do not cost only 1.5M more than the F1 GTR for exemple.
They chose to be as realistic as possible, and if It's higher than 20M then they put it at 20M.
And if it cost more, everybody would say it's way too expensive

 

[JC_Dude]

Nobody is complaining that the price of the GTO isn't real, nobody wanted to pay 50-70M credits for one, they're pointing out how it weakens Kaz's supposed rationale for the pricing of the other cars. Clearly PD don't mind lowering the prices below reality if reality is too much, so they could have done the same with others like the 18M Mclaren. But they didn't. It's inconsistent.

The prices are now simply not realistic. A 250GTO isn't only 2M more than a Mclaren F1 in real life. So that's the whole thing out of the window, and in reality, they just made certain cars more realistic, others not.

The game used to have a 20 million credit cap until a few days ago. They probably didn't have time to adjust the price of the GTO. Man, some of the complaints here are so insane.

 

[sejtur]

Complaint Pre-1.11: These 20 million credit cars are too expensive! How do they expect us to earn that much?
Complaint Post-1.11: These non-realistic prices are bull; I wanted to pay 70 million credits for the 250 GTO!

This community makes absolutely zero sense.

The post 1.11 complaint is just sarcasm.

 

[Samus]

The game used to have a 20 million credit cap until a few days ago. They probably didn't have time to adjust the price of the GTO. Man, some of the complaints here are so insane.

Why is everything categorised as complaining here? Nobody is complaining.

 

[nickf1gr]

Unfortunately you can do this to it:
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There is a wide body option too but on GT7 those are not reversible so I recommend not doing that to anything beautiful.

IT'S A SIN!!!!!

 

[Samus]

This is no ending : Imagine we lower the F1 price to like 11M, we would still "complain" about the fact the car do not cost only 1.5M more than the F1 GTR for exemple.
They chose to be as realistic as possible, and if It's higher than 20M then they put it at 20M.
And if it cost more, everybody would say it's way too expensive

No they wouldn't. Nobody cared how out of joint the prices were in old games, nobody cared that the McLaren was only 1M. The only complaints were how out of reach the 20M cars were.

It's just further evidence that pricing your cars realistically to real world prices is never going to work in a video game. They should have just left them alone, instead of trying to justify why some are real and some aren't.

 

[McLaren]

So the real world pricing is just bull****? I'm shocked.

No, pricing for most cars so far aren't far off.

Just another excuse Kaz implemented to make the game "more realistic" lol.
Real world price for the Ferrari 250 GTO $70M: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/classic/new-world-record-ferrari-250-gto-sells-ps52m
ANd this was back in 2018, god knows what it's fetching now!

Already covered, but the $70m was not the paid amount. Car was handled off-market, that price was rumor that got picked up.

Last real world price known to be paid was $48m or so.

Completely off topic here, but I really wonder which 250 GTO PD has modeled. Number plate/registration is on par with Nick Mason's, but his car wears #22, not #20.

Game says it's 3729GT and has Jon Shirley listed as the driver. Jon Shirley has been the owner since 2000. Funny enough, guess which is Jon's car below.

Definitely not Nick's car modeled though.

Nobody is complaining that the price of the GTO isn't real, nobody wanted to pay 50-70M credits for one, they're pointing out how it weakens Kaz's supposed rationale for the pricing of the other cars. Clearly PD don't mind lowering the prices below reality if reality is too much, so they could have done the same with others like the 18M Mclaren. But they didn't. It's inconsistent.

The prices are now simply not realistic. A 250GTO isn't only 2M more than a Mclaren F1 in real life. So that's the whole thing out of the window, and in reality, they just made certain cars more realistic, others not.

I believe it's a cost-cap. I don't think PD had any intention of actual replicating a real 250 GTO value.

 

[MrMattAdz]

Yeah. They gave us more cars but seem to have doubled the length of stages at which they progress from new to gone. Not cool.

Eh, people were complaining that if you were starting from scratch it was frustrating trying to grind to buy the cars in time before they rotated. Now we have more cars and more time to buy them, it's a win-win for everyone but the small portion of players who were okay spending hours each day just grinding and nothing else.

 

[Nielsen]

Complaint Pre-1.11: These cars sell out too fast, they don't give us enough time to earn the credits!

Nice try to make everyone look dumb, but cars selling out too fast hasn’t really been a complaint throughout this debacle.

 

[MIE1992]

Gotta say, I am a bit fussy about colors, so I think I’ll pass on this Cobra, and wait for it to return when it’s got blue paint with white stripes, rather than the inverse as we can see for this current offering.

For another example, I did win a classic Challenger through the menus, but it’s orange, and I really want a purple one. So I think I’ll set aside the orange one to modify, and when I get a Challenger that’s purple, that’s the one I’m gonna leave as-stock.

 

[talhaONE]

Unfortunately you can do this to it:
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There is a wide body option too but on GT7 those are not reversible so I recommend not doing that to anything beautiful.

Are there any lip spoiler option like in GT40?

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Are there any lip spoiler option like in GT40?

From memory no, I think the rear wing and wide body were the only bodywork options.

 

[Eggstor]

Worse than this? 🙈

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Doing that to either the DB5 or the 250 GTO is worse than the Harz Mountains of Asia (you youngsters out there should look up "A Fistful of Yen" on YouTube...before you're taken to Detroit).

 

[Talon16]

If you can control it (I remember it being a beast in previous GT's) and knock 108.18 PP off its 558.18 PP, it probably would clean up.

Someone needs to buy it and try it and report back before I drop 2.5mil.

If it wins that Mission race, you'd get half your investment back.

 

[Lotrzyna]

Someone needs to buy it and try it and report back before I drop 2.5mil.

If it wins that Mission race, you'd get half your investment back.

I will check that for you later in the evening today.

General question - is there a list of LCD cars that are yet to appear?

 

[sejtur]

I will check that for you later in the evening today.

General question - is there a list of LCD cars that are yet to appear?

There's a link in the first post.

 

[permaculture]

Someone needs to buy it and try it and report back before I drop 2.5mil.

If it wins that Mission race, you'd get half your investment back.

It’s 832 hp / 1900 lbs fully loaded. I think it was like 750-780pp with RH tires, but I lowered it to try the Le Mans.

Set it all the way to lean, took the lead in Lap 1, never pushed past 160 mph (low fourth) or floored it, was comfortably leading before the rain came in lap 4 after I passed the pit lanes. Unfortunately the hard tires did not enjoy the rain and I had not purchased intermediates yet so I closed out. Probably could’ve won easily anyways but i only meant to do it as a test drive.

TLDR: the cobra is an absolute beast, and could theoretically do the 700pp endurance on a one stop

 

[Samus]

I will check that for you later in the evening today.

General question - is there a list of LCD cars that are yet to appear?

There are now only 21 cars we're yet to see in the game, either LCD or UCD. I would guess that the following are LCD:

Alpine​	A220​	1968​
Chevrolet​	Corvette Stingray Concept​	1959​
Ferrari​	330 P4​	1967​
Jaguar​	D-Type​	1954​
Jaguar​	XJR-9​	1988​
Mazda​	787B​	1991​
Mazda​	RX 500​	1970​
McLaren​	F1 GTR Kokusai Kaihatsu​	1995​
Mercedes-Benz​	300 SEL 6.8 AMG​	1971​
Nissan​	R92CP​	1992​
Nissan​	Skyline R34 GT-R GT500​	1999​
Porsche​	962 C​	1988​
Porsche​	Spyder Type 550/1500 RS​	1955​
Toyota​	2000GT​	1967​

 

[Lotrzyna]

There are now only 21 cars we're yet to see in the game, either LCD or UCD. I would guess that the following are LCD:

Alpine​	A220​	1968​
Chevrolet​	Corvette Stingray Concept​	1959​
Ferrari​	330 P4​	1967​
Jaguar​	D-Type​	1954​
Jaguar​	XJR-9​	1988​
Mazda​	787B​	1991​
Mazda​	RX 500​	1970​
McLaren​	F1 GTR Kokusai Kaihatsu​	1995​
Mercedes-Benz​	300 SEL 6.8 AMG​	1971​
Nissan​	R92CP​	1992​
Nissan​	Skyline R34 GT-R GT500​	1999​
Porsche​	962 C​	1988​
Porsche​	Spyder Type 550/1500 RS​	1955​
Toyota​	2000GT​	1967​

Thank you for that list, it will be very helpful.

I wonder how much will the R34 be? I'm guessing 8M.

 

[Eggstor]

I will check that for you later in the evening today.

General question - is there a list of LCD cars that are yet to appear?

To add to @Samus' list, the 1966 Renault R8 Gordini is a possibility per @Famine's estimate in the OP. It is also possible the 1974 Lamborghini Countach LP400, 2000 Toyota Sprinter Trueno AE86 Shuichi Shiengo, and/or 1970 Plymouth Superbird end up in Hagerty's as a couple of cars Famine estimated would be in the UCD ended up in Hagerty's. Further, there are several cars that have appeared only in the 12/17 State of Play or pre-launch play.

As for the R34 GT500, Samus estimated it would be 1.5 million Cr., the same price the 1997 Toyota Supra GT500 went for when it was available.

 

[Max_HP]

Nobody is complaining that the price of the GTO isn't real, nobody wanted to pay 50-70M credits for one, they're pointing out how it weakens Kaz's supposed rationale for the pricing of the other cars. Clearly PD don't mind lowering the prices below reality if reality is too much, so they could have done the same with others like the 18M Mclaren. But they didn't. It's inconsistent.

The prices are now simply not realistic. A 250GTO isn't only 2M more than a Mclaren F1 in real life. So that's the whole thing out of the window, and in reality, they just made certain cars more realistic, others not.

Not only is it inconsistent, but Kaz contradicts himself by taking these actions.

 

[alex511]

There are now only 21 cars we're yet to see in the game, either LCD or UCD. I would guess that the following are LCD:

Alpine​	A220​	1968​
Chevrolet​	Corvette Stingray Concept​	1959​
Ferrari​	330 P4​	1967​
Jaguar​	D-Type​	1954​
Jaguar​	XJR-9​	1988​
Mazda​	787B​	1991​
Mazda​	RX 500​	1970​
McLaren​	F1 GTR Kokusai Kaihatsu​	1995​
Mercedes-Benz​	300 SEL 6.8 AMG​	1971​
Nissan​	R92CP​	1992​
Nissan​	Skyline R34 GT-R GT500​	1999​
Porsche​	962 C​	1988​
Porsche​	Spyder Type 550/1500 RS​	1955​
Toyota​	2000GT​	1967​

Was the Mercedes S'Barker already to get in game?

 

[Eggstor]

Was the Mercedes S'Barker already to get in game?

The Barker was only in the 12/17 State of Play video, for 20,000,000 Cr. The same is true for the 1945 Jeep Willys MB, which appeared then for 100,000 Cr. (but at least you can win the Jeep for getting all gold in The Magic Mountain missions).

 

[SeaNorris]

Complaint Pre-1.11: These cars sell out too fast, they don't give us enough time to earn the credits!
Complaint Post-1.11: Cars don't sell out fast enough anymore!

I didn't have a problem with how they sold out before, what I have a problem with now is a refresh (at least on the UCD) showing cars sold out for 3 days + without adding anything new, it's totally unneeded.

 

[gambleboyen]

Bah Humbug, I couldn't grind enough to get the CLK-LM'98, and it looks like I'll miss the F1 GTR'97 as well.

Well, at least I'll have enough to round up everything from the UCD instead 🥺

 

[JC_Dude]

Bah Humbug, I couldn't grind enough to get the CLK-LM'98, and it looks like I'll miss the F1 GTR'97 as well.

Well, at least I'll have enough to round up everything from the UCD instead 🥺

You could just do a few circuit experience events. F1-style tracks pay out 1.2 million each.

 

[AmyUD06]

I literally never saw a single complaint about the LCD cycling too fast pre 1.11. In fact the exact opposite complaint was so prevalent PD changed the LCD due to the bitching about it taking forever to cycle through the cars. So it is fitting that people are complaining that the dealership cycles slower now (seemingly) as that was the position of most of the community all along

Nice try to make everyone look dumb, but cars selling out too fast hasn’t really been a complaint throughout this debacle.

Here are just a small sampling of the complaints of cars leaving too soon, from the first 10 pages of this thread. I'm sure there's more if I took the time to look through the other 20+ pages pre-1.11.

Horrible feature? Yes definitely. Smart business decision on their behalf? Yes definitely. The goal is to trigger your FOMO and make you buy an expensive car (either earned credits or microtransactions) because you are unsure of how long it'll be available or how many "units" are available for sale.

That's their game with you the user. They want you to open your wallet out of FOMO.

I can't imagine saving credits in four days for these cars, it would be a crazy week, insane!

Welp, the Jag will be out of stock in 24 hours and I'm not even halfway there with my credits. Even if it ended up staying for another day it would be too intense of a grind for me. Guess I'll be passing on it for now. The Mondial is new.

I do not have enough to purchase it yet but I will tomorrow, I was too late for the MKIV and wasn't interested in the XJ13. I may wait until it says it's low stock as I would hate to purchase it and see either of the F1 GTRs or the JGTC R34 after i've spent my money.

people say "but you aren't supposed to get everything first week" then fail to realize casually farming 20m would take months on months and that also means months and months of not buying any other cars lmao

Yet you only have 6 days to buy the car before it disappears, then you've got to wait another two months.

 

[Famine]

This community makes absolutely zero sense.

It makes a lot more sense when you consider that you're quoting two different sets of people with different opinions and acting like each is providing a single unifying voice of the opinion of GTPlanet, when GTPlanet is actually a forum wherein different opinions are expressed and discussed.

You can also consider the fact that something at pH1 is highly acid, and something at pH14 is highly alkali; it's certainly possible for one person to dislike both extremes when what they want is drinkable water.

 

[gambleboyen]

You could just do a few circuit experience events. F1-style tracks pay out 1.2 million each.

I'm struggling to gold the shorter, simpler tracks. So I guess I deserve (?) missing out.

 

[Nielsen]

Here are just a small sampling of the complaints of cars leaving too soon, from the first 10 pages of this thread. I'm sure there's more if I took the time to look through the other 20+ pages pre-1.11.

I’ve read countless post like the ones you highlighted, but their takeaway is that the economy is too grindy rather than cars disappearing too soon.

There is always someone digging for hypocrisy to the point where the meaning of posts gets turned upside down just to suit the narrative of a pathetic community.