lets get over damage and talk about real GRAN TURISMO

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i was really dissaponited about only a few cars having damage but that really overshadowed how awsome the game really looked. i mean damage will only be cool for about a month till it gets old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB1IQagkKps 7 min video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8GdUc3OEBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVk8JpDJ08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76OoWiyyIZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76OoWiyyIZc

3D trees
1000 cars
wRC
Nascar
170 cars with damage
best graphics ever
1000 cockpit views
internal damage on all cars
youtube replays
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seeable damage?
 
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Yeah, the changing weather would ad an better, more interesting element than damage, I think. Just imagine doing a long Nurburgring race and as you're heading to the carrasole, it starts to rain or snow. And you're going "oh crap. And I have to wait until I get all the back the the pits to change tires."
 
Im with you focus on the positives, look how far gt has come since gt1. Online championships and leagues will force this through the roof. I trust PD lets face it modelling over 1000 cars is not easy, im an animator I should know.

EDIT: I prefer weather and night/day cycles.
 
sounds seems the same quality as prologue. Infact i think this is prologue. Just a little updated with a few new cars, 1 new track and a little damage.....

Skidmarks? Smoke? Weather? Tire sounds? Reverse lights?
 
People got their damage, they have been whining for it for years now, and they got it.
Now it's time for them to realise that the game should be delayed another year or so to get damage on ALL 1000 cars... i guess some people can't seem to understand how hard this is to begin with, and how long it takes to develop damage into a allready existing engine.

Now for the good points:

- graphics were lush, i was absolutely amazed how good that track looks!
- I noticed some great looking trees as well.. should shut up the "lol paper trees in GT5" now.
- 1000 cars.. how is this not celebrated on here? all i read is WHINING about the damage, and yet when the game comes out we will one-thousand, yes.. 1000 cars to race with.. how amazing is that!? and all with cockpit view offcourse.
- We still have to see what other classes are coming, and what tracks they are offering us.. but so far, so good.

Things im not sure about:

- What is lacking was the sense of speed in those videos.. however, when i watched them half screen instead of full-screen, it was faster.
And prologue was fast enough for me as well.

- Allthough i realise this is a arcade demo setup for us to show damage and a great looking track, i still would like confirmation on weather effects (dynamic?) and night racing (cycles?)

- Last one.. pit crew, all CGI vids show a pitcrew and a full pit full of people.. however we still have to see this in action.

That's it.. TGS will be the real deal for us... hopefully people will be more realistic by then, because what what i have had to read for the last few days about the damage and whatnot, was just crazy... people actually come over from other forums to laugh at the GTplanet meltdown... lol.
 
sounds seems the same quality as prologue. Infact i think this is prologue. Just a little updated with a few new cars, 1 new track and a little damage.....

Skidmarks? Smoke? Weather? Tire sounds? Reverse lights?

yeah, I was watching a Prologue drifting video, and noticed there were, what looked like, drifting marks around Edgar. I don't remember those being there in GTHD.
 
Sorry but there will not be 1000 cars, I would guess there will only by about 800 individual cars and the rest will be different variants just like how they use alternate routes to boost the track count.
 
Meh, I'd like damage but it can wait. I'd rather see cockpit views for all 800 or so vehicles, weather changes, day to night cycles, and I'd like to see all the racing cars with the damage option.
 
dude true racing fans would pick gt over any racing game if they played all of the racing sims out in the market.

Not true, If i had the chance and a decent PC I would definitely play iracing over any other racing game as im sure many others would.
 
- 1000 cars.. how is this not celebrated on here? all i read is WHINING about the damage, and yet when the game comes out we will one-thousand, yes.. 1000 cars to race with.. how amazing is that!? and all with cockpit view offcourse.

Agreed. I guess people are so caught up in worrying about which cars have damage and interior view that the amazingness of having 1,000 cars at your disposal just hasn't sunk in yet. :drool:

I hope there is no limit to the amount of cars a player can have in his garage! :dopey:
 
Thats True, but i look at it intelligently I own both consoles, I currently have forza 2 and prologue. the one I play on is prologue even though I think forza is a good game. When forza 3 comes out I will get that aswell as GT5 but I bet ill drift into playing GT5 all the time. I like all racing games but GT has always had an edge I like, GT5 is no dissapointment, I feel if we keep asking for more at this stage it will only hold it back further. Lets face it its gonna be miles better than prologue but if for example they started selling prologue tommorow with a full championship mode and about 200 more cars, no one here wouldnt say no to ramraiding the store to get a copy lol.

This is gonna be 1000 cars and tonns of new features. Its cool there is damage it shows the game is moving forward but im not gonna be dissapointed at only a certain percent of cars have it no way. I think PD have done there best to provide us or try to provide us what we want or what they want after all there car fans aswell.....
 
Thats True, but i look at it intelligently I own both consoles, I currently have forza 2 and prologue. the one I play on is prologue even though I think forza is a good game. When forza 3 comes out I will get that aswell as GT5 but I bet ill drift into playing GT5 all the time. I like all racing games but GT has always had an edge I like, GT5 is no dissapointment, I feel if we keep asking for more at this stage it will only hold it back further. Lets face it its gonna be miles better than prologue but if for example they started selling prologue tommorow with a full championship mode and about 200 more cars, no one here wouldnt say no to ramraiding the store to get a copy lol.

This is gonna be 1000 cars and tonns of new features. Its cool there is damage it shows the game is moving forward but im not gonna be dissapointed at only a certain percent of cars have it no way. I think PD have done there best to provide us or try to provide us what we want or what they want after all there car fans aswell.....

WELL said...

And i would like to add to this that 170 cars with damage is MORE cars then NFS:shift has, more cars then DIRT 1 and DIRT 2, more cars then GRID, etc.

How people can get dissapointed by this is beyond me.
 
I would love to see with all the cars, but what I want more is the bumper car feel gone. If I hit another car going 150mph we should both lose control, not just bump each other back and forth. The collision detection really needs to punish you for hitting other cars on the track.
 
WELL said...

And i would like to add to this that 170 cars with damage is MORE cars then NFS:shift has, more cars then DIRT 1 and DIRT 2, more cars then GRID, etc.

How people can get dissapointed by this is beyond me.

its also more cars than any nascar game, who knows they could be more cars added.

but PD has to have day night and weather, they got the damage crap out now now when we hear about weather people will be estatic
 
i was really dissaponited about only a few cars having damage but that really overshadowed how awsome the game really looked. i mean damage will only be cool for about a month till it gets old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8GdUc3OEBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVk8JpDJ08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76OoWiyyIZc

3D trees
1000 cars
wRC
Nascar
170 cars with damage
best graphics ever
1000 cockpit views
internal damage on all cars
VS
seeable damage?


Is there internal damage on all cars?
 
its also more cars than any nascar game, who knows they could be more cars added.

but PD has to have day night and weather, they got the damage crap out now now when we hear about weather people will be estatic

Yeah, just check the lists of other racing games.. get this:

170 cars with damage is twice as much as shift will have, 3 times more cars then DIRT 2

About the weather and night racing.. I got to be honest, i dont think we will see weather like most people think it should be.. dynamic... same goes for dynamic day and night cycles.

I think we will see rain, in wet stages.. and i think we will see night stages as well, but not as deep as most people would want it to be... i'd say lower all expectations now as most of us had hyped a bit too much it seems. :)
 
Yeah, just check the lists of other racing games.. get this:



About the weather and night racing.. I got to be honest, i dont think we will see weather like most people think it should be.. dynamic... same goes for dynamic day and night cycles.

I think we will see rain, in wet stages.. and i think we will see night stages as well, but not as deep as most people would want it to be... i'd say lower all expectations now as most of us had hyped a bit too much it seems. :)

after what i have seen, i will not be mad if weather isn't dynamic.
 
Cockpits will be in all cars.... definitely.. i think they refer (as mentioned by another member) that they wont have other internal parts like under the bonnet, panels and boot.. etc. for damage.
 
Im not that dissapointed as long as all RALLY and 'ENDURANCE racers' have damage as those are the places where these have real effect on your driving decisions.........if not, Polyphony will look stupid in my eyes.
But I still think the game will be miles better than any other. Plus the DLC should over time fix these issues.......I HOPE.
 
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