Let's play "Guess when GT5 is released"!

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Like I asked in my speech balloon at the playstation network (ID Turbo--Kai):

"GT5...just a fake?"


> Gt5 becomes more and more a myth like unicorns or so...LOL
> Or maybe when the day has come that it is close before release...sony goes bankrupt and no other company wants to overtake this matter...so GT5 will never be released... :-(

My honest guess: 1st Dec 2010

@Kaz and his crew: PUT THE PEDAL TO THE METAL!!!
 
"GT5...just a fake?"


> Gt5 becomes more and more a myth like unicorns or so...LOL

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Maybe? :lol:

Nah, but seriously. People should wait patiently. Or not even wait, just play something else. It doesn't need to be a racing game.
 
Yea, I gave up waiting and started back up on rFactor and forgot how amazing it was and I have since lost interest in keeping track of all of these Gran Turismo failure-to-launch dates.
 
Gran Turismo: Japan: December 23rd, 1997

1 year, 11 months, 18 days later....

Gran Turismo 2: Japan: December 11th, 1999

1 year, 4 months, 18 days later....

Gran Turismo 3: Japan: April 28th, 2001

3 years, 8 months later....

Gran Turismo 4: Japan: December 28th, 2004

5 years, 1 month, 5 days and counting.....

That's a pretty sickening trend really :yuck: 👎

Most likely we won't see another GT installment after GT5 on the PS3 system, so that will mean GT6 will most likely be on the PS4 or whatever system it might be. Now just imagine how long it will take for them to re-code everything and to improve the graphics for the new more powerful system :ill: 10 years anyone? :lol:

PD needs to get on the ball, by first of all hiring more people to get things done quicker. In The end they would likely increase profit by hiring another 50-100 people to get the game developed much quicker, instead of losing so many casual gamers who pick up an XBOX/Forza and forget about GT completely because they can't justify waiting a lifetime for a racing game to come out.
 
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A lot of cry babies here.. It's just a game...

If it was realease now, it will be uncomplete game, and most of you will complain about weather effects not being in the game, no many body kits, damage is not enough.. WAHHH WAHH WAHHH

just wait for complete game, that 60 dollars will be best buy for any game.
 
Most likely we won't see another GT installment after GT5 on the PS3 system, so that will mean GT6 will most likely be on the PS4 or whatever system it might be. Now just imagine how long it will take for them to re-code everything and to improve the graphics for new more powerful system :ill: 10 years anyone? :lol:


One of the reasons it's taken 5 years is to avoid another huge development.Gt5 will be technical base for the next ten years of GT.
Remember nothing has been carried over from 4,ever bit code,assest has been rebuilt,once 5 is out,they could easily do a new release every 2 years.
 
A lot of cry babies here.. It's just a game...

If it was realease now, it will be uncomplete game, and most of you will complain about weather effects not being in the game, no many body kits, damage is not enough.. WAHHH WAHH WAHHH

just wait for complete game, that 60 dollars will be best buy for any game.

Yet you have close to 5,000 post in a forum dedicated to this game :lol:

One of the reasons it's taken 5 years is to avoid another huge development.Gt5 will be technical base for the next ten years of GT.

How do you know this will be the case, when no one knows how much longer PS3 will be on the market, and what the technical specs for the next generation system will be?

Remember nothing has been carried over from 4,ever bit code,assest has been rebuilt,once 5 is out,they could easily do a new release every 2 years.

I already knew that. But PS3 is most likely already approaching its lifespan, so we would be lucky to see another GT installment on PS3 as I originally mentioned.
 
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How do you know this will be the case, when no one knows how much longer PS3 will be on the market, and what the technical specs for the next generation system will be?

Well we know (based on PS3) that it will be a multicore system,and the GT5 engine is designed around this,it will be scale up.I'm not saying it won't require work,but as a proof of concept,GT5p was run on 4 PS3's and output was 3840x2160 and at 240FPS

http://kotaku.com/5093592/gran-turismo-5-prologue-running-at-240-fps--3840x2160-resolution

"It is as though you are following a real world event happening right in front of your face with your own eyes. Any and all flickering in the movement of the vehicle, in the smoke from the tires, etc. are completely gone, and you are almost tricked into believing you are watching something in real life."



I would also add,Sony will already have an idea of the system specs for PS4,and it would be surprising if the first party studios don't have a rough idea,I'd also be surprised if some weren't developing concepts and tech ready.




I already knew that. But PS3 is most likely already ending its lifespan, so we would be lucky to see another GT installment on PS3 as I originally mentioned.


You think PS3 won't be around for at least another 4 years? if naughty dog are to be believed then there's plenty left.KZ2 was no were near pushing the Cpu usage (around 60% average) The consoles have enough left,and as they mature the best developers push things you never thought possible.
 
Well we know (based on PS3) that it will be a multicore system,and the GT5 engine is designed around this,it will be scale up.I'm not saying it won't require work,but as a proof of concept,GT5p was run on 4 PS3's and output was 3840x2160 and at 240FPS.

That is all hearsay at this point. Even Sony themselves (according to the latest press articles) are unsure as to what type of processor they will use for the PS4.

I would also add,Sony will already have an idea of the system specs for PS4,and it would be surprising if the first party studios don't have a rough idea,I'd also be surprised if some weren't developing concepts and tech already. .

It's a bit naive to think PD is that on top of the ball given their track record. Not to mention IF they happen to work on another GT installment for the PS3 (after GT5), which I doubt will happen, then we will likely see another 5+ year wait for GT for the PS4, because they will be so narrow minded in their development scope.

They might give us something like Prologue to chew on like a dog for the next 5+ years once PS4 hits the shelves, but I have a feeling it will be another long wait unless PD gets their act together and start hiring more developers to get things done within a reasonable amount of time.

You think PS3 won't be around for at least another 4 years? if naughty dog are to be believed then there's plenty left.KZ2 was no were near pushing the Cpu usage (around 60% average) The consoles have enough left,and as they mature the best developers push things you never thought possible.

There are already framerate issues with the GT5 demo, so I can't imagine the PS3 system being capable of much more, especially considering that the graphic quality of the GT5 demo left a lot to be desired. I have a strong feeling GT5 will really be pushing the envelope in terms of what the PS3 is capable of with 16 car grids and the final graphic quality.

Even if there is still another 3-4 years left for the PS3, we still have close to anther year wait (at least) before we even see GT5 for PS3, so even if PD managed to get another GT installment out for the PS3 with minimal enhancements, PS4 would likely hit the shelves a few months later :dunce:
 
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Apparently a Nostradamus verse said,
"On the 4th day of Cancer,
Forza 3 will have its arse handed to it."
 
It doesn't say the 3840x2160 demo was at 240fps.
Sorry,was meant to link a different article,couldn't find it and forgot to edit,there were two demos

Info of how it was done is in the 2nd picture.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13689023&postcount=1





That is all hearsay at this point. Even Sony themselves (according to the latest press articles) are unsure as to what type of processor they will use for the PS4.

What so you think it's hersay that Sony will use a multicore Cpu,so they just going to have a single core processor in the next PS,and you called me naive :)

You probably know but the Cell has
1 PPU
8 SPU,one disabled for production yields,one dedicated to the OS,and 6 "cores" for running games,

I highly doubt whatever approach they go for will be a single core processor,I cant think of any that would come close to the processing they need.either way the engine is designed around multicore,other wise GT5 would be like a Ps2 game.



It's a bit naive to think PD is that on top of the ball given their track record. Not to mention IF they happen to work on another GT installment for the PS3 (after GT5), which I doubt will happen, then we will likely see another 5+ year wait for GT for the PS4, because they will be so narrow minded in their development scope.

But the first GT took 5 years the second was 1 year, 4 months, 18 days later so they've done it before,and will do it again.

They might give us something like Prologue to chew on like a dog for the next 5+ years once PS4 hits the shelves, but I have a feeling it will be another long wait unless PD gets their act together and starts hiring more developers to get things done within a reasonable amount of time.

Should be less of a wait,as the cars are laser scanned,they have the highest detail models you can get,i'd speculate these are downgraded for PS3,yet they still have the super detailed models as archives.
I believe Kaz has said the track details are the next thing they want for next gen,and realtime ray tracing.


There are already framerate issues with the GT5 demo, so I can't imagine the PS3 system being capable of much more, especially considering that the graphic quality of the GT5 demo left a lot to be desired. I have a strong feeling GT5 will really be pushing the envelope in terms of what the PS3 is capable of with 16 car grids and the final graphic quality.

But 2 years of extra work,and code optimization,goes a long wag in game development,and as Kaz said himself,

"Yamauchi said: [The game uses] about 80 percent of the processing power. The PS3 hardware has a very high peak performance. The better you manipulate it, the better it performs."
http://www.videogamer.com/news/gt5_uses_80_of_ps3s_power_says_series_creator.html

I can only base my opinion on what has been said.

Even if there is still another 3-4 years left for the PS3, we still have close to anther year wait (at least) before we even see GT5 for PS3, so even if PD managed to get another GT installment out for the PS3 with minimal enhancements, PS4 would likely hit the shelves a few months later :dunce:

Again I can only go on what has been said.

"Yes. You won't have to wait as long as you did for GT5. GT5 represents whole new operating system. GT6 is just new apps that run on the GT5 system."

"To make Gran Turismo 5, we threw away the legacy code from GT4 and started from scratch. It's been five years from [the release of] GT4, and that's the same amount of time it took to develop the first GT4. To create a game from scratch, that's the amount of time it takes to get it right."

(" and that's the same amount of time it took to develop the first GT4." should say first GT)

http://www.totalvideogames.com/Gran...ed-Wait-Wont-Be-As-Long-As-For-GT5-14723.html
 
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:nervous: GT5 will be released when finally men and women understand each other .... :scared:





which is June 9th, 2010.... 6-9-10 👍👎 :embarrassed:
(or September 6th, 2010... depending on which country you are coming from)
 
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I am more anxious to know when they will make the "definitive announcement" of when it it will release, at least we can get on with it. We can bet it will not be until 12/2010 or early 2011. But hey, it could be earlier...or even later.
 
as far as I can see

first demo was 3840*2160 @ 60fps
other demo was 1920*1080 @ 240fps

to get 3840*2160 @ 240fps you'd need 16 PS3s.

Like I said,there were two demos,still can't find the article I was looking for,it had a few pictures of both set-ups,and was a good read.
 
What so you think it's hersay that Sony will use a multicore Cpu,so they just going to have a single core processor in the next PS,and you called me naive :)

You probably know but the Cell has
1 PPU
8 SPU,one disabled for production yields,one dedicated to the OS,and 6 "cores" for running games,

I highly doubt whatever approach they go for will be a single core processor,I cant think of any that would come close to the processing they need.either way the engine is designed around multicore,other wise GT5 would be like a Ps2 game. ]

Read this article: http://sonyps4.com/ps4-might-not-have-a-cell-processor/

You're still ASSUMING what type of proccesor they will be using.

But the first GT took 5 years the second was 1 year, 4 months, 18 days later so they've done it before, and will do it again.

Really...and what VALID evidence do you have to support this? In case you forgot there was a 3 year, 8 months wait from GT3 to GT4, yet both games were based on the same system (PS2). The general trend is only showing that there is a larger and larger wait between titles, especially as the proccesors get more advanced. When it comes to there being a 1-2 year period between GT titles ever happening again... I'll BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT (when it's in my hands)...much like the supposed GT5 release date :rolleyes:

Should be less of a wait,as the cars are laser scanned,they have the highest detail models you can get,i'd speculate these are downgraded for PS3,yet they still have the super detailed models as archives.
I believe Kaz has said the track details are the next thing they want for next gen,and realtime ray tracing.

And in 5-10 years time when the next GT series is out for the PS4, they will have to laser scan all of the new car models between now and then, as well as re-code the physics because they will undoubhtedly be standard/inferior by then. They will also have many other areas of the game they will have to improve upon in order to keep the series a level above the competition.

But 2 years of extra work,and code optimization,goes a long wag in game development,and as Kaz said himself,

"Yamauchi said: [The game uses] about 80 percent of the processing power. The PS3 hardware has a very high peak performance. The better you manipulate it, the better it performs."

You can only improve so much when you're already that close to the threshold though. 3-5% improvements in areas here and there to bring the game closer to the PS3's full capabilities, won't improve the feeling and looks of the game by any drastic margin.
 
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:lol: It's ok though. That's half the fun of it.

Play the latest GT series for a year or two...then play guessing games for the next 3 to 4 years :dunce: :lol:
 
( amar212: ) May 07 2011 tho. :eek:

Did i missed something? When did amar say that?
But it sounds possible, wouldn´t wonder...

And as I believe, and many other people here wrote the same, that it would be an PS4 launch title... wouldn´t wonder 👍

I´m sick of that game... watched the last 1 year every trailer, checked every day some forums and gtp... have not sleeped some nights only to watch the E3 live stream or the TGS and so on... And whats all we get so far? some short trailers and a few screenshots... ahh and the delay...
 
You think PS3 won't be around for at least another 4 years? if naughty dog are to be believed then there's plenty left.KZ2 was no were near pushing the Cpu usage (around 60% average) The consoles have enough left,and as they mature the best developers push things you never thought possible.

It's got nothing to do with how much they still have left to squeeze out of it. It's all down to how soon the competition get their kit to market. Technology is a race if there isn't a PS4 within the next 4 years then Sony are out of the console market - simple as.
 
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