List of cars represented incorrectly

[SVX]

The early '00s GT500s are also pretty far down on power too.

I think it's rare to find a car that doesn't have an inaccurate power rating.

 

[Harsk100]

345, which is what Subaru claimed when they first showed it, but it's around 100 more in real life.

I don't think that's correct... Click here

 

[Bo]

I don't think that's correct... Click here

They just follow the "gentleman's agreement" figures. There is no physical possibility of a 350hp vehicle being as fast in a straight line as a Blancpain spec GT3 car. The minimum the JAF GT300 cars run at is 400bhp.

 

[Harsk100]

They just follow the "gentleman's agreement" figures. There is no physical possibility of a 350hp vehicle being as fast in a straight line as a Blancpain spec GT3 car. The minimum the JAF GT300 cars run at is 400bhp.

I thought that GT300 cars were just 300 bhp... Didn't know that. My bad

 

[TheLuigi755]

They just follow the "gentleman's agreement" figures. There is no physical possibility of a 350hp vehicle being as fast in a straight line as a Blancpain spec GT3 car. The minimum the JAF GT300 cars run at is 400bhp.

I thought that GT300 cars were just 300 bhp... Didn't know that. My bad

GT300 cars ARE rated at about 300-345bhp. The GT3s that race in Super GT are heavily restricted to about 350bhp, and they don't have the aero kits that the Japanese GT300 cars have. So you are totally wrong about 450bhp GT300s.

 

[MidFieldMaven]

TVR Griffith 500 '94

Dealership lists hp as 319 hp and 320 ft-lbs of torque.

Garage says 340 hp and 351 ft-lbs of torque.

 

[Tornado]

Then the specs aren't wrong, as it's stated it's a Japanese model, but rather the naming of the car.

Basically the specs are wrong because they cannot be right because the car as presented never existed.

 

[SVX]

Basically the specs are wrong because they cannot be right because the car as presented never existed.

Ah, PD...

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

Probably a similar type deal with the 276hp shown on the 90s/00s Japanese performance cars then.

This was actually the maximum power that Japanese manufacturers could advertise for a while. IIRC the Mitsu Lancer Evo IX had ~330hp, but it was advertised as having only 276 because of the law. Stupid, I know.

 

[SVX]

This was actually the maximum power that Japanese manufacturers could advertise for a while. IIRC the Mitsu Lancer Evo IX had ~330hp, but it was advertised as having only 276 because of the law. Stupid, I know.

I know that, one of the many gentlemen's agreements.

What I was referring to was the power being shown deliberately underpowered.

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

I know that, one of the many gentlemen's agreements.

What I was referring to was the power being shown deliberately underpowered.

Oh, so you're saying that in the game it literally only has 276hp as opposed to the 330 it's supposed to have?

 

[MidFieldMaven]

When you buy a car that has 276 hp, in the garage it will say something totally different.

The only time I haven't seen this to be the case is the Buick GNX '87 which isn't Japanese but has 276 hp.

 

[SVX]

Oh, so you're saying that in the game it literally only has 276hp as opposed to the 330 it's supposed to have?

No.

I'm talking about the GT300 BRZ - it shows that horsepower but in reality it's higher.

But it's been confirmed that nothing's wrong so there's no point continuing this discussion anyway.

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

No.

I'm talking about the GT300 BRZ - it shows that horsepower but in reality it's higher.

But it's been confirmed that nothing's wrong so there's no point continuing this discussion anyway.

Oh, OK.

 

[wvmgmidget]

The car description for the Jaguar XJR-9 says it won 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1998 not 1988

 

[Thomas__633]

I don't want this fixed but the LP670-4 '09 is about 150-400kg too heavy. Also its gotta be impossible that THAT many cars have 276 HP.
Also the two C5 corvettes basicially have identical weight and PP but one is 30HP less

 

[Harsk100]

Also its gotta be impossible that THAT many cars have 276 HP.

The Skyline GT-R R32, R33 and R34 has 276 HP.
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=6878
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=6879
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=6880

The Honda NSX 1997-2001 and 2001-2004 versions have 276 HP.
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=11722
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=11724

The Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IV, V, VI, VII and VIII models have 276 HP
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1447
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1448
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1449
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1725
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1724

The Japanese Version of Supra has 275 HP while the Exported version has 325 HP.
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=325

 

[Thomas__633]

darum
that's gotta be illuminati
or maybe just japanese emmisions laws
(the most popular cars in Japan are the Prius and the Prius C (Aqua) due to their emmisions laws)

 

[Harsk100]

darum
that's gotta be illuminati
or maybe just japanese emmisions laws
(the most popular cars in Japan are the Prius and the Prius C (Aqua) due to their emmisions laws)

Yes, the Japanese emissions restricted the power up to 276 HP (known as 280 PS in Japan).

 

[Thomas__633]

lol
"The new FT-1, with "276HP""

"D

 

[tankuroded]

The car description for the Jaguar XJR-9 says it won 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1998 not 1988

Looks like the US version have some wonky translation issues, given that most of description errors ITT are mostly found in the US version of the game.

The Skyline GT-R R32, R33 and R34 has 276 HP.
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=6878
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=6879
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=6880

The Honda NSX 1997-2001 and 2001-2004 versions have 276 HP.
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=11722
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=11724

The Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IV, V, VI, VII and VIII models have 276 HP
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1447
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1448
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1449
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1725
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=1724

The Japanese Version of Supra has 275 HP while the Exported version has 325 HP.
http://www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=325

>webcarstory
>accurate

WCS is citing the marketed HP, not the actual HP.

 

[Street Racer 77]

darum
that's gotta be illuminati
or maybe just japanese emmisions laws
(the most popular cars in Japan are the Prius and the Prius C (Aqua) due to their emmisions laws)

There was a gentlemens agreement in 1990 between the Car manufacturers and the heads of the japanese road safty service if I recall correctly. Every car was allowed to have 280ps maximum. It was made to prevent traffic accidents and competing between Manufacturers for more and more power (which results into traffic accidents aswell)

Well officially every manufacturer had cars with only 280PS but if you but those cars on a Dyno you will see that most of them actually had 300+hp. Kind of funny IMO.

But in October 2005, Honda officially broke the agreement at its Legend (Acura RL in the U.S.) press conference when it unveiled the model's 300-hp, 3.5-liter V-6.

 

[Thomas__633]

thanks!. Also pretty funny that 3 generations of STi's, the FD3s, R32, R33 and R34 and Evo 1-9 hadn't broken it and now Honda does it over a family car.

 

[drivatar]

Honda S2000 LM Race Car
Displays a #33 on the hood but a #30 everywhere else.

Fixed!
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ed-changes-thread.326852/page-2#post-10643824

 

[Harsk100]

What are the differences between 1998 and 2000 RX-7 Type RS Models?

 

[cjr3559]

What are the differences between 1998 and 2000 RX-7 Type RS Models?

The 2000 model is newer than the '98.

Or the 2000 has a bigger ashtray. Can't remember exactly.

 

[tankuroded]

Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2 Rally Car '86
No number in door.

Museumed versions of 205 T16 Evo 2 don't have numbers in the side:

It isn't a big deal though.

 

[Eggstor]

What are the differences between 1998 and 2000 RX-7 Type RS Models?

In reality, the 1998 was the last year of the Series VII. According to automobile-catalog.com, the changes from the Series VII to the Series VIII bumped the power from 261 hp/217 ft-lb to 276 hp/232 ft-lb.

PD didn't exactly follow reality here.

 

[NaganoRN]

GT300 cars ARE rated at about 300-345bhp. The GT3s that race in Super GT are heavily restricted to about 350bhp, and they don't have the aero kits that the Japanese GT300 cars have. So you are totally wrong about 450bhp GT300s.

No one GT3-spec car race in SUPER GT are restricted to poorly 350bhp. For example, the Hatsune Miku SLS GT3 from TeamUKYO this year run with 560bhp. The JAF-GT spec GT300 car is basically a prototype car with silhouette from street cars. Also, it's very lightweight than GT3 car, who is based directly from a street version.

 

[Harsk100]

In reality, the 1998 was the last year of the Series VII. According to automobile-catalog.com, the changes from the Series VII to the Series VIII bumped the power from 261 hp/217 ft-lb to 276 hp/232 ft-lb.

PD didn't exactly follow reality here.

My bad... Didn't know that the RX-7 FD had two facelifts. Now I see why are two Mazda RX-7 Type RS's. The 1998 is the Series VII while the 2000 model is the Series VIII.