Livery Editor

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Well, as long as PD is able to do the livery system properly, Ala Forza, rather than NFS, I'm perfectly fine with it. In fact, I always have been irritated by the inability to merely change the colors of your car after buying it. If you change your mind about a car color, you have to go up to the car dealer and purchase a new one, or worse, if the car's used.
 
It wont be added because Forza has one. It will be added because the majority of people want to be able to customize their race cars. And if it does have one, will it realy matter. you either use it, or you dont.
Well, I don't think it's a good idea primarily because I don't want to get online and see Ferraris painted to resemble something out of The Fast and the Furious.
 
Well, I don't think it's a good idea primarily because I don't want to get online and see Ferraris painted to resemble something out of The Fast and the Furious.

But that is not what you get in forza. Some I admit are a bit dodgy. but most of the cars are brilliant.

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These cars are all done with the Livery Editor. They arnt exactly need for speed cars are they. And most of them look a damn site better than the pre made racing modifications available in GT1 and GT2.
 
But that is not what you get in forza. Some I admit are a bit dodgy. but most of the cars are brilliant.

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These cars are all done with the Livery Editor. They arnt exactly need for speed cars are they. And most of them look a damn site better than the pre made racing modifications available in GT1 and GT2.

Wow now, that would be sweet in GT5, that first porche looks pretty nice, although, i can just imagine some people with flames going down the side of a 599, and thats where GT could lose its feel :ill:

All GT really have to do is have racing vinyl only
 
Yes, like I said there are some idiots that put flames down the side of Ferraris like you say. but for every bad car I have seen in forza, there has always been 20 nice ones, to balance it out. Plus if you see a Ferrari with flames down the side at the start of the race, it is like an early wanring system for an idiot rammer. Chavy boy racer graphics = chavy boy racer driver lol. Of course there are great drivers with bad taste to and vice vercer. but you get the idea :).
 
Forza, Forza, Forza. That's all I've heard from you in the last few posts. If you want to use a Forza-esque livery editor, then go play Forza. But Gran Turismo is an entirely different series and shouldn't be including things simply because a rival series has it.

The way I see it, a livery editor would take up valuable space within the game, space that could be used to include more cars or circuits. A livery editor wouldn't enhance the gaming experience they way they would; indeed, it would likely go un-used by the bulk of people who cannot draw.
 
Forza, Forza, Forza. That's all I've heard from you in the last few posts. If you want to use a Forza-esque livery editor, then go play Forza. But Gran Turismo is an entirely different series and shouldn't be including things simply because a rival series has it.

The way I see it, a livery editor would take up valuable space within the game, space that could be used to include more cars or circuits. A livery editor wouldn't enhance the gaming experience they way they would; indeed, it would likely go un-used by the bulk of people who cannot draw.

I have said Forza twice in my posts. I am not interested in Forza I am mearly showing you that your idea of Fast and furious style Ferraris is wrong. And the way you bite my head of because of prooving you wrong only tells me that maybe you need to take some of the of what is advertised on the last car shown, and have some fun in your life.

I livery editor will not take up much room at all. No more room than the photo mode did in GT4. PD will include a Livery editor, they have to in order to keep the sales up. PD want the XBOX guys as well. And with the up and coming Forza 3, PD will want as maney features as possible to compete with the Feature packed Forza.

Example: When benetton droped the front wing on there cars, the next season all the cars had it. In order to comepete. PD need the same features that Forza has and even more.

P.S sorry for using the word FORZA.
 
I want a livery editor for making team liveries, like for GTP.
I like customizing and that is one of the things GT is lacking for me.
On the PC you can make liveries by editing the game files, but that isn't an option on the PS3.
Would be cool if PD would give base files to use in photoshop and lets you import them in GT.

@Do you race?
What wrong with wanting a feature Forza has?
I want a game with GT physics on the PS3, not a racegame on the XBOX360.
 
I want a livery editor for making team liveries, like for GTP.
I like customizing and that is one of the things GT is lacking for me.
On the PC you can make liveries by editing the game files, but that isn't an option on the PS3.
Would be cool if PD would give base files to use in photoshop and lets you import them in GT.

@Do you race?
What wrong with wanting a feature Forza has?
I want a game with GT physics on the PS3, not a racegame on the XBOX360.

Nascar 09 has that feature. works realy good. Only problem is. Photoshoped cars wouldnt look as good as the standerd cars. Unless their is some way of turning things into HD. I dont know how this would work. but it is probably simpler just to have the livery Editor lol.
 
PD will include a Livery editor, they have to in order to keep the sales up. PD want the XBOX guys as well. And with the up and coming Forza 3, PD will want as maney features as possible to compete with the Feature packed Forza.
No editor = no buy?... :scared:

About the features on a GT game this quote from KY says all:

Kazunori Yamauchi
"Straight off the bat, I think that in terms of feature sets, Forza is ahead of us. They have more options, you can do basically anything. We take a different approach obviously - we try to concentrate on what are the core values for a racing game, and we try to elevate those standards up as high as we possibly can."

"I am having difficulty trying to explain the differences, but one way you can look at it is, you can buy a watch that is super multifunctional, but economical, or a watch that is reduced in functions, but premium - higher end."

The difference in sales from both franchises agreed with him.
 
Well, I don't think it's a good idea primarily because I don't want to get online and see Ferraris painted to resemble something out of The Fast and the Furious.


If you're afraid of seeing a bad paintjob online, then I think you have other things to worry about.
 
No editor = no buy?... :scared:

About the features on a GT game this quote from KY says all:



The difference in sales from both franchises agreed with him.

Oh i will still buy the game editor or not. Kaz is right what he says. But without the extra features, PD have no chance in winning over the 360 crowed. Any of us here will still buy the game regardless of what features it has. As Kaz said it is premium. But I am fed up with 360 fan boys telling me how much better forza is compared to GT, now I know deep down that GT kills forza in every way. But you have to admit. The 360 fan boys have a good argument. Forza may not have the stunning 1080p graphics or the Precise phisics that GT5 has, but they have alot more features that keeps the game ever more popular, and playable.
 
But that is not what you get in forza. Some I admit are a bit dodgy. but most of the cars are brilliant.

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While i agree with you, i just want to say that this pic is not showing cars with custom liveries, its a screenshot from the very first trailer from E³ 2006 and pre-rendered. ;)
 
Ahhh sorry about that, never seen it in the game so I assumed that was a edited one too. still their are plenty more to choose from. lol.
 
True that. The point is Forza did create something magical with the livery editor and Polyphony shouldn't let stubborn pride get in the way of improving GT and thereby conceding that Forza created a good feature.
 
Forza, Forza, Forza. That's all I've heard from you in the last few posts. If you want to use a Forza-esque livery editor, then go play Forza. But Gran Turismo is an entirely different series and shouldn't be including things simply because a rival series has it.

The way I see it, a livery editor would take up valuable space within the game, space that could be used to include more cars or circuits. A livery editor wouldn't enhance the gaming experience they way they would; indeed, it would likely go un-used by the bulk of people who cannot draw.
What a load of tosh, the truth of the matter is that a good lvery editor could add hours upon hours worth of gameplay and depth for thoes interested and at the same time take absolutely nothing away from thoes that arn't All you people who bitch and moan about not wanting livery ediors because you "might see a paint job you don't like online" are just moaning for the sake of it.

Even without livery editors you might see a paint job you don't like online, you ight see one offline too. I don't know about you, but I personally wasn't keen on the racing liveries for every car in GT games past and present, and some of the race mod paint schemes in GT1 and 2 were just plain horrible. Did that put me off the racing mod, does that make me not want to see such a feature ever again. No not at all. Everyone has different tastes, you can't expect the rest of the world to have the same tastes as you, or for people to pander to your tastes only. Having a livery editor or not will not change that fact and it will not protect you fromseeing ugly liveries along with the good either.

Bottom line is a liver editor will take up a minimal ammout of space on the disk, it will not detract from the car or track count at all but t will add a lot of depth and enjoyment to the game for thoes who want to use thier creativity in that way. As for not being used by people who can't draw, I can't draw well but it didn't stop me making a few decent liveries in Forza and Forza 2. Being able to draw or not doesn't mean you don't have an eye for detail and are unable to create a decent livery in a game. My take is tha it would be just as popular in GT5 as it is in Forza in relative terms. Ie, a very popular feature. Thoes who don't want to use it would never have to and thier game experience wouldn't suffer for it. Everyone else will benefit.
 
Forza, Forza, Forza. That's all I've heard from you in the last few posts. If you want to use a Forza-esque livery editor, then go play Forza. But Gran Turismo is an entirely different series and shouldn't be including things simply because a rival series has it.

The way I see it, a livery editor would take up valuable space within the game, space that could be used to include more cars or circuits. A livery editor wouldn't enhance the gaming experience they way they would; indeed, it would likely go un-used by the bulk of people who cannot draw.

Just terrible 👎 some folks are just stuck in the past
 
I have really difficult to understand 'car/race fanatic', who dont want to customize his Online racecars livery... even a littlebit.

If I could have chance to own any racing-car, and being into real races, I definetly also would like to make it look like how I want... some classic Old-School racing paintjob.

There is no difference in this game too. I really wanted to make my cars to look like that way. I think you will see my cars gonna look like old rallycars between 60-80. Specially Martinis, and Rothmans themes are my favorites...



Edit: What more I'm thinking that livery-edition, that more I really liked to have it. I just started to search some old photos about my Dad's red BDA-escort from -80's. :lol: That would be great Tribute to Him... R.I.P old man, those were the days. 👍
 
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I see no need for a livery editor.

Besides, if one is only going to be included because Forza has one, Gran Turismo will lose some of its integrity. Added features shouldn't be included as knee-jerk reactions to other franchises. If anything, those franchises should be the ones copying GT.
I want a livery editor because custom liveries are in motorsports. Surely you've heard of the term. ;)

Besides, as far as I'm concerned, GT has "lost its integrity" in a sense. There's drifting now, and a racing line like Forza and other games have. I don't like drifting, I ignore it, but far be it from me to say it has no place in Gran Turismo because Forza is rife with drift fiends.

And as has been said before, the paint shop has opened up an incredible feature for people in games like... yes, Forza. As DustDriver points out, team liveries would be incredibly cool. Decal creation: you could have someone design a logo for GT Planet, share it, and we could all include that on our cars.

And by golly, I want my race car to be MY RACE CAR, with it's own identity. When a pro race car driver starts up or joins a team, he works with a designer to create the livery for his car. It identifies him to the racing world.

Why do some of you not want this?? I'm baffled...
 
Forza, Forza, Forza. That's all I've heard from


Do you have any clue what kind of ribbing I get from my kid who plays Forza II ?

things like :

1. hey look I can paint this car green , you can't do that in GT.
2. look at this , I can do racing modifications to a car. turn it from a stock looking car to this race car , you can't do that in GT
3. look at this really cool racing design I put on this car , can't do that in GT either

and there are more


see something here , a 15 yr. old kid says this , what do you think everybody else is going to say? If PD does not implement this in the game , them and the GT players will catch some severe " na na na na na na , look what we have and you don't" - I would really hate to see this happen.
 
Do you have any clue what kind of ribbing I get from my kid who plays Forza II ?

things like :

1. hey look I can paint this car green , you can't do that in GT.
2. look at this , I can do racing modifications to a car. turn it from a stock looking car to this race car , you can't do that in GT
3. look at this really cool racing design I put on this car , can't do that in GT either

and there are more


see something here , a 15 yr. old kid says this , what do you think everybody else is going to say? If PD does not implement this in the game , them and the GT players will catch some severe " na na na na na na , look what we have and you don't" - I would really hate to see this happen.
" I tuned my car very perfectly by changing the toe and camber"
" Forza is way more realistic than GT"
Then again, its a game.
 
Do you have any clue what kind of ribbing I get from my kid who plays Forza II ?

things like :

1. hey look I can paint this car green , you can't do that in GT.
2. look at this , I can do racing modifications to a car. turn it from a stock looking car to this race car , you can't do that in GT
3. look at this really cool racing design I put on this car , can't do that in GT either

and there are more


see something here , a 15 yr. old kid says this , what do you think everybody else is going to say? If PD does not implement this in the game , them and the GT players will catch some severe " na na na na na na , look what we have and you don't" - I would really hate to see this happen.



You need to give your kid a beatdown. Don't let him talk Forza to you!
 
PD adds rims spoilers, legendary cars etc. does it lose that GT feel, never, there's nothing wrong with change, this will just be pure fun, sure online you will see some bad cars, but that's the idea show off your style, that's the way the real world is anyway
 
I want a livery editor because custom liveries are in motorsports. Surely you've heard of the term. ;)

Besides, as far as I'm concerned, GT has "lost its integrity" in a sense. There's drifting now, and a racing line like Forza and other games have. I don't like drifting, I ignore it, but far be it from me to say it has no place in Gran Turismo because Forza is rife with drift fiends.

And as has been said before, the paint shop has opened up an incredible feature for people in games like... yes, Forza. As DustDriver points out, team liveries would be incredibly cool. Decal creation: you could have someone design a logo for GT Planet, share it, and we could all include that on our cars.

And by golly, I want my race car to be MY RACE CAR, with it's own identity. When a pro race car driver starts up or joins a team, he works with a designer to create the livery for his car. It identifies him to the racing world.

Why do some of you not want this?? I'm baffled...

Anougher excelent post.

I think Do You Race just woke up on the wrong side of bed thismorning.
 
You mean Blake Lively editor?

Because that, My friends, I would be down with!:lol::lol::lol:.....Just kidding.

Anyway, Back on topic.....
 

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Well the way I look at it is if GT5 has 'clans' then a livery editor is pretty important. Imagine starting your own race team with your own custom livery? This is what racing is in its purest form (well at least as the CEO. Clan leader = CEO?). The only problem with a livery editor is that it takes away time from more important feature. To that I say PD should take as long as they want to make GT5 the most feature pact, most dynamic and most realistic racing experience possible.
 
+1

I can just imagine a clan formed by everyone driving blue RX-7s. :P

And I think two reasons to take as long as possibleso are to not release a game that needs to be patched or for DLC'ed to be complete. A non-patched game tends to be a bit more stable, and while DLC for additional content down the line as far as cars is fine, I want all the tracks in there that can possibly be done. DLC tracks are very hard to integrate into the single player game, which is what most of us play.

I know we all want GT5 ASAP, but I'd wait till 2010 sometime for a huge game that would take forever to complete, like GT4 was.
 
There´s also a possibility to have showroom competitions if we get an editor. Who has the best looking livery, and so on...
 
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