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Hi @LOGI_Rich,
Isn't it possible to bypass the torque limitation on GT7 with a firmware update like the DriveHub does?
Isn't it possible to bypass the torque limitation on GT7 with a firmware update like the DriveHub does?
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This limitation has been there for a long time. And it's very frustrating to have no news from either Polyphony Digital or Logitech.
It depends on the game title. GT7 doesn't allow you to reassign the pedals, so that wouldn't be an option there. However, remember that you can adjust how much force is required to max out the brake, so there's ways to make it so you won't need to push that hard.
I’ve had my wheelbase around 3 months with no problems, but mine started with this twitching at the weekend! Playing ACC on PC, like I normally do - No new game or platform - so I don’t know why it’s started now! I’ll try this zero dampener hack - but we shouldn’t have to be doing that! Did anyone get a response from Logitech on this issue please?
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Mine started doing that roughly 3-4 months into my ownership. I don't even use it all that much considering I play for maybe 2-3 hrs per week and sometimes that could be it for a whole month.
As for a response from Logitech, I believe @LOGI_Rich said that it was been investigated. Perhaps something that may get fixed with a future update 🤷♂️
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Your not going to get active pedals on PS5 without running simhub through a PC
You can adjust brake travel in game in gt7
You can adjust the length of travel in game on gt7
Thanks, I only use mine for around 4hrs per week, I wonder if this is why it took so long to show itself! I hope they find a a solution as it is irritating - and gives me concerns for its longevity!
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This isn't necessary. If you leave the brake pedal stock right out of the box and take the "Brake Force" slider to it's minimum setting of 1kg in G Hub, the pedal becomes a literal on/off switch. It is that easy to press all the way down. Even at 5kg or 10kg it is very easy to press. You'll easily find a comfortable setting.
Personally, I've never messed with changing out elastomers and just gotten used to the stock pedals. I have the slider set to 30kg because I use them on carpet, pressed against the wall under my desk. These pedals are pretty amazing. I'd easily chose them over my old Fanatec V3's based on comfort and performance. Maybe not so much on looks because of plastic vs metal but that's not to say the Logitech's are weak in any way. They put a lot of thought into these pedals and really kept both rig and desk racers in mind when designing them.
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Cheers for the Dampener off solution, thought it was in need of repair.
On the brake front I just realised I made every other game except ACC about 20% easier to brake but missed the one I play most, now set it and it's so much easier. Had been getting a lot of pain in my left foot and realised just how much I'm on the clutch in my real car. Been dabbling with right foot braking in games too now, but the brake setting has definitely helped here, was why I found it, might not need to try the softer fittings now.
Still might need a visit to a doctor, are foot injuries common for sim racers or people who drive too much?
On the brake front I just realised I made every other game except ACC about 20% easier to brake but missed the one I play most, now set it and it's so much easier. Had been getting a lot of pain in my left foot and realised just how much I'm on the clutch in my real car. Been dabbling with right foot braking in games too now, but the brake setting has definitely helped here, was why I found it, might not need to try the softer fittings now.
Still might need a visit to a doctor, are foot injuries common for sim racers or people who drive too much?
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Not sure about them being common but they can occur. My left knee and ankle had been hurting a little, I think because I was pressing on the brake a little offset. Now after moving the pedal positions around a bit I'm now pressing straight down on them. Seems much better so far.
Since I don't use it that much (at the moment) my clutch pedal is in the middle, allows me to set the position of the throttle and brake into more comfortable positions.
Hi, my wheel started to make the cracking noise when in use. @LOGI_Rich I know this was discussed in the past as some others had the same issue. Was there an easy solution or fix? Thanks
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It's really hard to show some of this via video. Ive done a ton of testing and think I've connected some dots with common issues.
For me (on GT7) overheating isn't an issue. However, I find that if I'm running force feedback sensitivity at 1 (recommended) I experience clipping under trail/heavy turn and brake situations.
Clicking noises/Feedback irregularities are usually triggered by a heavy snap correction. The spring in the quick release will make a ping. I've looked at the spring a bunch, a little lubricant really helped.
I can assure you that you’re not getting clipping in GT7, because there’s no way you’re getting anywhere near the maximum torque output of the wheel as things stand when running in Pro mode. If you’re in G923 mode then you’ll be getting clipping everywhere, even if you just turn into a corner, but definitely not in Pro mode.
Maybe it would help if you describe exactly what you mean by clipping?
Maybe it would help if you describe exactly what you mean by clipping?
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The twitching I mentioned only happens when the wheel is stationary with no hands on it. It's only a very small oscillation around the center point that's accompanied by a slight ticking. Almost as if the wheel is keen to continue for a few more laps. 🙂
It's barely noticeable for me, a little more so for others.
Clipping is a different beast. That's the wheel not having enough headroom to perform instructions that a game is sending to it. For instance, trying to simulate both suspension movement, tyre slippage and braking while under a heavy cornering situation. If you're at the 11Nm limit something will have to be lost - clipped.
As Rich says, if you're running GT7 in it's current default nerfed state you shouldn't be hitting that limit. Which could be a benefit of PD's restriction, I'd think you should be getting full FFB fidelity!
Are you sure you're not experiencing the lack of grip, understeer effects that GT uses where the wheels go lighter and judder? With a responsive DD wheel this, I'd assume, would be more pronounced. Other games simulate this differently so I don't have the problem under braking you mentioned.
The twitching I mentioned only happens when the wheel is stationary with no hands on it. It's only a very small oscillation around the center point that's accompanied by a slight ticking. Almost as if the wheel is keen to continue for a few more laps. 🙂
It's barely noticeable for me, a little more so for others.
Clipping is a different beast. That's the wheel not having enough headroom to perform instructions that a game is sending to it. For instance, trying to simulate both suspension movement, tyre slippage and braking while under a heavy cornering situation. If you're at the 11Nm limit something will have to be lost - clipped.
As Rich says, if you're running GT7 in it's current default nerfed state you shouldn't be hitting that limit. Which could be a benefit of PD's restriction, I'd think you should be getting full FFB fidelity!
Are you sure you're not experiencing the lack of grip, understeer effects that GT uses where the wheels go lighter and judder? With a responsive DD wheel this, I'd assume, would be more pronounced. Other games simulate this differently so I don't have the problem under braking you mentioned.
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So If I take such a turn with ffb sensitivity at 1 It feels like I can out turn the friction circle. I will turn in while trailbreaking and everything goes away as far as first feedback.
If I take that same turn the exact same way with force feedback sensitivity at 10 it does not happen
Okay, this isn't clipping. What you're feeling is the result of what the sensitivity setting does in GT7 - it alters how reactive the force feedback is to changes. The easiest way to see this is to turn the wheel up to full torque, run the game at 10 for torque and increase sensitivity to 10, then drive down a straight and let go of the wheel; it'll soon start oscillating, especially in a high downforce car. Do the same with the sensitivity down at 1 and it won't (or... less so in a high downforce car).
Apply that to the info the game is sending to the wheel when you're under heavy/trail braking and entering a corner and with sensitivity at 1 the steering will feel more "floaty" because the weight shift that is applied to the steering isn't as aggressive. Turn it up to 10 and you'll feel that much more prominently and quickly.
Always remember that the settings we put on the support page are merely a suggestion, not a requirement. If you like the sensitivity at 10 then go for it.
Apply that to the info the game is sending to the wheel when you're under heavy/trail braking and entering a corner and with sensitivity at 1 the steering will feel more "floaty" because the weight shift that is applied to the steering isn't as aggressive. Turn it up to 10 and you'll feel that much more prominently and quickly.
Always remember that the settings we put on the support page are merely a suggestion, not a requirement. If you like the sensitivity at 10 then go for it.
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@LOGI_Rich I have the Logitech recommended steering wheel settings on GT7. ¿ So what is the best value to set the sensitivity 1 or 10 ?
Thank you !
Thank you !
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Out of curiosity, how are the baseline suggested settings generated? Is it a different person assigned to evaluate each game? Or is there a pool of people who team up on a title and agree that a certain feel is "best", and then apply that feel to another title? I'm curious to know how consistent the feel is across titles, using the suggested settings.
Like, with the G29 there are no settings to adjust (at least on console... not sure if Ghub plays a role on PC), so any variation in feel across titles is due to the game alone. Contrast that with the DD11 which has it's own on-board settings and now there are more variables at play.
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IIRC they're Rich's settings and he updates them every now and then.
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