Logitech G29 / G920 Driving Force Racing Wheel
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The G29 does work with GT6. The wheel will be recognised as a Logitech DFGT. The separate shifter does not work with the PlayStation 3, therefore you have to use the shift paddles.
As far as I'm aware, there has been no confirmation that the G29 works with GT Sport (or GT7), however, it probably will do as the G29 is a PS4 licenced wheel.
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The G27 shifter will work with the G29 and the G920, the buttons on the shifter do not function though, just the shifter. I have no idea if the G25 one will, as I do not have a G25 shifter to test. If it does happen to work, it is possible only the H-gate will work. It is something that someone with the G25 and the G29/G920 would have to test.
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G29 is 129 punds on Amazon today
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- RacingAtHome
Considering getting this and a PlaySeat Challenge in January. PS4 racer.
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G29 arrived this afternoon. I need a way to keep pedals in place I want to nail them on a wood panel I have than this wood panel will be fixed to my rig. On the website they talk about M6X1 screws.
But I'm not sure about the lenght? How much should I need considernig the wood panel is 1,8 cm?
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Hi all.
For years and years I've wanted a wheel, must be 10 years or so, and I finally decided to take the plunge and get one (Well actually, I convinced my partner to get me one for Xmas). I did some research and decided to opt for the G29 as I heard it's a decent wheel with a good set of pedals, and I'm also a fan of the way it looks with all the dials and buttons and that. I'm going the whole hog and getting the Logitech shifter as well, with a GT Omega Pro wheelstand with the optional gear shifter mount. Considering I've never even seen a gaming wheel irl, let alone used one, I'm seriously looking forwards to cracking it open (can't have it till Xmas) and driving the knackers off a few cars.
Alas, I've blathered on long enough and shall get down to the reason I'm here....questions! I'll list them in a numbered format because it'll be a bit tidier.
1 - Considering I'm strictly a PS4 gamer, is the G29 as simple as plugging in it and playing? I don't have to connect it to a PC first and download firmware updates and stuff do I? My technical knowledge is almost nonexistent so it'd be nice to just plug the bloody thing in to the PlayStation and get on with it.
2 - Is it easy to get everything set up nicely, as in calibration, etc? I'm not going to be spending more time rummaging through the in-game menus trying to get everything set up properly than actually driving with the damned thing am I?
3 - I've already started stockpiling driving games. I've got Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Dirt Rally, Driveclub and F1 2016 but is there anything else worth recommending that it great fun with a wheel?
Erm, I pretty much think that's it. Can't wait to get cracking with it. All my gaming life I've used controllers for my driving games and loved every minute of it. I love a good driving game. I just recently bought Assetto Corsa and thought to myself 'Eh, I'll just have a few practice laps'. 3 hours later I'm still there, lapping the same car and track, desperately trying to shave a tenth or two off my lap delta....Anyway, I'm hoping using a wheel will elevate the fun factor even more.
Thanks for any replies and advice!
For years and years I've wanted a wheel, must be 10 years or so, and I finally decided to take the plunge and get one (Well actually, I convinced my partner to get me one for Xmas). I did some research and decided to opt for the G29 as I heard it's a decent wheel with a good set of pedals, and I'm also a fan of the way it looks with all the dials and buttons and that. I'm going the whole hog and getting the Logitech shifter as well, with a GT Omega Pro wheelstand with the optional gear shifter mount. Considering I've never even seen a gaming wheel irl, let alone used one, I'm seriously looking forwards to cracking it open (can't have it till Xmas) and driving the knackers off a few cars.
Alas, I've blathered on long enough and shall get down to the reason I'm here....questions! I'll list them in a numbered format because it'll be a bit tidier.
1 - Considering I'm strictly a PS4 gamer, is the G29 as simple as plugging in it and playing? I don't have to connect it to a PC first and download firmware updates and stuff do I? My technical knowledge is almost nonexistent so it'd be nice to just plug the bloody thing in to the PlayStation and get on with it.
2 - Is it easy to get everything set up nicely, as in calibration, etc? I'm not going to be spending more time rummaging through the in-game menus trying to get everything set up properly than actually driving with the damned thing am I?
3 - I've already started stockpiling driving games. I've got Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Dirt Rally, Driveclub and F1 2016 but is there anything else worth recommending that it great fun with a wheel?
Erm, I pretty much think that's it. Can't wait to get cracking with it. All my gaming life I've used controllers for my driving games and loved every minute of it. I love a good driving game. I just recently bought Assetto Corsa and thought to myself 'Eh, I'll just have a few practice laps'. 3 hours later I'm still there, lapping the same car and track, desperately trying to shave a tenth or two off my lap delta....Anyway, I'm hoping using a wheel will elevate the fun factor even more.
Thanks for any replies and advice!
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- WhippingBoy
I've been a wheel user since 2002, & have owned a whole load of Logitech products as well as a few Fanatec ones. I also have a PS4 & AC, P CARS, DC, DiRT Rally etc.
It's very much plug & play, yes, no need to update firmware. Connect the G29 to your PS4 via USB, make sure the wheel is plugged into the power socket & fire up your PS4. After that all you need to do is press the PS button on the wheel, the PS4 then asks which user is using it, & you just click X to continue. You can now use either the DS4 or G29 to navigate PS4 menus. In AC & P CARS you can switch between using the wheel or DS4, not sure about DR or DC. When the game is loading, make sure to click X to start on the wheel NOT the DS4.
When the wheel fires up, it self calibrates. It will turn from left to right & find it centre position. You don't have to do anything. In AC I haven't had to calibrate the pedals, it just works. In P CARS, however, there are pedal calibration processes to go through. P CARS is about as convoluted & user unfriendly as you can get for wheels. Not only does it have a huge amount of bugs, many of which that affect wheels, but the wheel & FFB options are unfathomable to understand let alone set up properly. I've hardly touched the game because of this. That said, the default FFB is useable if you don't wanna get involed in all the faffing about with settings. The most user freindly is DC, followed closely by AC. DR & P CARS are both harder to understand & set up, but P CARS is almost impossible to comprehend.
It all depends what your after. I prefer sim racing, so the FFB in DC is not to my taste, it's too unrealistic. P CARS has great physics, but there is no road feel in it, you can feel curbs but no bumps in the road. AC is phenomenal when it comes to physics, & the road feel is great. You even have seperate sliders for road feel & curb feel. It's the best sim out of the lot imho. I've only recently bought DiRT Rally, & have to say that the default FFB is bland & too light. My first impressions is that I don't like the game very much, & would need to spend too much time fiddling with the FFB to get it feeling anywhere good. I can't be bothered at the moment.
I'd also recommend getting the NIXIM V2 Brake & Clutch spring modifications. They will bring your pedals to life & make it much more realistic feeling.
All the best,
VBR.
It's very much plug & play, yes, no need to update firmware. Connect the G29 to your PS4 via USB, make sure the wheel is plugged into the power socket & fire up your PS4. After that all you need to do is press the PS button on the wheel, the PS4 then asks which user is using it, & you just click X to continue. You can now use either the DS4 or G29 to navigate PS4 menus. In AC & P CARS you can switch between using the wheel or DS4, not sure about DR or DC. When the game is loading, make sure to click X to start on the wheel NOT the DS4.
When the wheel fires up, it self calibrates. It will turn from left to right & find it centre position. You don't have to do anything. In AC I haven't had to calibrate the pedals, it just works. In P CARS, however, there are pedal calibration processes to go through. P CARS is about as convoluted & user unfriendly as you can get for wheels. Not only does it have a huge amount of bugs, many of which that affect wheels, but the wheel & FFB options are unfathomable to understand let alone set up properly. I've hardly touched the game because of this. That said, the default FFB is useable if you don't wanna get involed in all the faffing about with settings. The most user freindly is DC, followed closely by AC. DR & P CARS are both harder to understand & set up, but P CARS is almost impossible to comprehend.
It all depends what your after. I prefer sim racing, so the FFB in DC is not to my taste, it's too unrealistic. P CARS has great physics, but there is no road feel in it, you can feel curbs but no bumps in the road. AC is phenomenal when it comes to physics, & the road feel is great. You even have seperate sliders for road feel & curb feel. It's the best sim out of the lot imho. I've only recently bought DiRT Rally, & have to say that the default FFB is bland & too light. My first impressions is that I don't like the game very much, & would need to spend too much time fiddling with the FFB to get it feeling anywhere good. I can't be bothered at the moment.
I'd also recommend getting the NIXIM V2 Brake & Clutch spring modifications. They will bring your pedals to life & make it much more realistic feeling.
All the best,
VBR.
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Cheers VBR, very helpful post indeed. I'm very much a sim racer as well. I enjoy games like Driveclub but there's nothing like a hardcore sim racer where you tweak setups in the vain hope of eeking a tenth or two out of your lap times, so naturally I tend to gravitate more towards games like AC, PCars and Dirt Rally.
It all sounds very simple to get setup so it's just a case of waiting for Xmas now and preparing for a proper driving experience. In all of my gaming life I've only ever used the dualshock controller to play my driving games, so I can't wait to have a more authentic experience. Depending on how it goes I may even get the extra sections you can add to the GT Omega stand I got and add the extra bucket seat, but I'll see how I get on with the basics for now.
I'll have a good look at that NIXIM mod you mentioned for sure, but I'll see how the stock pedals feel for now. From what I've researched the stock G29 pedals are a decent set, especially for a noob like myself, but yeah, thanks for the advice.
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i have the GT Omega stand, good stand but a little bit heavy and awkward to manoeuvre around with the wheel mounted if you have to transfer it through tight spaces. It's why i can't be bothered to get it out sometimes, not really the stands fault though. What is good about is that you could quite easily make it into a full rig.
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A big problem with PCARS is that you can't access wheel settings from the pause menu on track. If that were possible, you could at least test what happens and see how it feels different when you change a setting even if you have no idea what it means. As it is right now, you have to exit the session to make changes, which makes the process extremely time consuming. And you'd probably forget what it felt like before after all the time taken to exit and load another session to test your changes. Pretty much all Codemasters games allow you to make wheel setup changes on track, which is really quite nice. That being said, PCARS feels phenomenal after you take the time to dial the FFB in. It's easily one of the best feeling driving games I've ever played.
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- Awong124
Are you using a G29? If so, would you mind sharing all your settings with me?
I use a T300, but I could post some screenshots of my settings when I get the chance. But even default feels pretty good to me honestly. It's just minor tweaks here and there. The biggest thing to change is lower Fy in each individual car to 50 or 60 depending on the car. That's the only thing I change in the individual car FFB settings, as I don't like having any SOP things turned on.
Here, try these, but remember to lower Fy. I just noticed that Force Feedback is not in these, but I have it at 100. You might need to lower either FFB or Tire Force to not clip on the G29, but I run the T300 pretty light anyway so it might not be necessary.
I just noticed this comment. I just got Dirt Rally last week, and I absolutely love it. I think the FFB feels great right at default. I did have the same impressions as you at the beginning, that it feels too light, but for me that was only because at the time I only tried the Alpine. The Alpine has a very light nose because it's rear-engined, so FFB feels very light with that car. But every other car feels incredibly natural and satisfying. I've never played another rally game that felt even close to how good Dirt Rally feels. But this could be due to the differences between the T300 and G29. Having used the G27 for years before, I could tell you that they are massively different in feel.
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Using a wheel for your first time ever will be a slightly strange experience. Don't be surprised if you're actually a bit slower than you are with the controller to begin with and you will more than likely make mistakes too. If you're struggling, try not to get frustrated, just take it steady and eventually you'll get the hang of it. 👍
When I first got my wheel I was playing GT5 and it took me about a week to get comparable lap times and from then onwards there was no stopping me.
A friend of mine actually stopped using his wheel because he couldn't get the hang of using it. He got frustrated and gave up...... I eventually got him to try it again and after some coaching he started to enjoy it.
Have fun and I'm sure that you'll enjoy your Christmas present. I don't have AC, but I have heard many people saying that it 'feels' superior to other racing games.
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Using a wheel for your first time ever will be a slightly strange experience. Don't be surprised if you're actually a bit slower than you are with the controller to begin with and you will more than likely make mistakes too. If you're struggling, try not to get frustrated, just take it steady and eventually you'll get the hang of it. 👍
When I first got my wheel I was playing GT5 and it took me about a week to get comparable lap times and from then onwards there was no stopping me.
A friend of mine actually stopped using his wheel because he couldn't get the hang of using it. He got frustrated and gave up...... I eventually got him to try it again and after some coaching he started to enjoy it.
Have fun and I'm sure that you'll enjoy your Christmas present. I don't have AC, but I have heard many people saying that it 'feels' superior to other racing games.
I'm more concerned about using the pedals for the first time instead of the wheel. I've never owned or even used a wheel and pedals before so i'm going in completely blind, not knowing how realistic or unrealistic they are in comparison to real life. I've been driving for nearly twenty years and have owned a good few cars so it'll be interesting for me to see how the FFB in the wheel equates, compared to the real thing.
But yeah, hopefully the pedals are somewhat realistic. Its something of a shame that the pedals don't have a bit of FFB in them. I'd hate it if I had problems with throttle and brake sensitivity because its key to driving fast.
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You'll be fine with the pedals. They are perhaps a bit numb, but that's simply because you're not feeling vibration through the pedals and physical g-forces on your body in response to your brake and throttle inputs. Once you've had a couple of hours with the pedals you'll be fine, without the brake mod there is a need for 'muscle memory' but with the brake mod (the G29 pedals have their own version of a brake mod as standard) braking is much easier to judge.
I'm not sure what the G29 throttle feels like, I'm guessing that it's going to be quite lightly sprung, so my advice is to either race in socks, or get some very flexible driving shoes. Socks will work just fine.
A lack of G force will probably be the reason why you push too hard and make a mistake to begin with. I'm afraid that it's just not possible to get an accurate sensation of acceleration, cornering forces and braking without spending thousands on a full simulator.
One thing that I realised while playing GT5/6, it's very easy to add too much steering input for what is actually required. If you've seen people smoking their tires while cornering in GT5, that's because they've got too much steering lock on and they're killing the tyres. I'm not sure what Project Cars is like in terms of adding too much steering input while cornering, because I've already learnt not to do this and I can't become a n00b again.
When I started out with the wheel, I was trying to drive RWD cars with low grip levels and was seriously struggling. I then switched to FWD cars instead, which did help a little as I could concentrate on the basics without having to worry about oversteer. I then switched to lower powered grippy RWD cars and worked my way up to higher powered cars once I became comfortable.
I honestly don't think you'll struggle with the pedals, they aren't too bad at all. You're more likely to spin out due to oversteer instead.
Based from my own experiences, I think that you'll love using a wheel, it's so much better than using a controller and I don't think that you'll ever want to race with a controller again. I refuse to race without my wheel.
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You'll be fine with the pedals. They are perhaps a bit numb, but that's simply because you're not feeling vibration through the pedals and physical g-forces on your body in response to your brake and throttle inputs. Once you've had a couple of hours with the pedals you'll be fine, without the brake mod there is a need for 'muscle memory' but with the brake mod (the G29 pedals have their own version of a brake mod as standard) braking is much easier to judge.
I'm not sure what the G29 throttle feels like, I'm guessing that it's going to be quite lightly sprung, so my advice is to either race in socks, or get some very flexible driving shoes. Socks will work just fine.
A lack of G force will probably be the reason why you push too hard and make a mistake to begin with. I'm afraid that it's just not possible to get an accurate sensation of acceleration, cornering forces and braking without spending thousands on a full simulator.
One thing that I realised while playing GT5/6, it's very easy to add too much steering input for what is actually required. If you've seen people smoking their tires while cornering in GT5, that's because they've got too much steering lock on and they're killing the tyres. I'm not sure what Project Cars is like in terms of adding too much steering input while cornering, because I've already learnt not to do this and I can't become a n00b again.
When I started out with the wheel, I was trying to drive RWD cars with low grip levels and was seriously struggling. I then switched to FWD cars instead, which did help a little as I could concentrate on the basics without having to worry about oversteer. I then switched to lower powered grippy RWD cars and worked my way up to higher powered cars once I became comfortable.
I honestly don't think you'll struggle with the pedals, they aren't too bad at all. You're more likely to spin out due to oversteer instead.
Based from my own experiences, I think that you'll love using a wheel, it's so much better than using a controller and I don't think that you'll ever want to race with a controller again. I refuse to race without my wheel.
Hmm, don't think i'll be playing with just my socks on. I drove my real (proper) car without shoes on once and it was awful. My feet kept slipping off the pedals and it was agony to fully depress the clutch. But eh, i'm sure the G29 pedals will be a bit more comfortable to use so we'll see.
And aye, considering i've never used a wheel and pedal set-up before, I intend to ease myself in slowly, starting off with road going front wheel drive cars. Once i've got that nailed down i'll move on to lower powered rear wheel drives before stepping up to a rear wheel drive beast of a car. Mind you, having said that, that little voice in my head that tells me i'm a magnificently talented driver may win out and i'll dive straight into the supercar league and expect to nail it. Chances are i'll wish I never bothered but eh, as long as i'm having fun.
And also, to whomever might be able to give a solid answer, is it worth me hard mounting my wheel and pedals to the wheel stand or is it okay to just clamp the wheel on and throw the pedals on the bottom bit? I'm getting the GT Omega Pro wheelstand, the double bar one (if that makes sense).
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@Betelguese - The factory G29 brake spring just has a rubber stopper in it, so it goes from light to rock hard & imho feels unrealistic. The NIXIM mod has a dual stage spring that goes from light to firm to hard & actually feels progressive like a real brake. The clutch spring in the stock G29 has the same weight all the way down, it feels nothing like a real clutch. The NIXIM clutch spring is a dual spring that feels light then firmer as you press, not exactly like a real clutch, but better than just having a single stage spring.
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I've not tried the Nixon clutch spring. I might have to get that one too.
I was only concerned about the brake pedal feel and the Nixin mod is great. If I remember rightly, I swapped the throttle spring for the old brake one too which made it a little stiffer. 👍
I was only concerned about the brake pedal feel and the Nixin mod is great. If I remember rightly, I swapped the throttle spring for the old brake one too which made it a little stiffer. 👍
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Are the brake mods essential, considering I've never even used a steering wheel/pedal setup before? I'm interested in it being as realistic as possible so I may stump up a bit of extra cash but am I correct in assuming that it's £20 per spring? Cause if it is, that's an insanely extortionate price tag.
And if I do get one are they easy to install? (Remember, I'm new to all this).
And if I do get one are they easy to install? (Remember, I'm new to all this).
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- Awong124
I wouldn't recommend the spring mods unless you plan to somehow hard mount or strap down the pedals. And also if you plan to not wear shoes. I bought the GTEye brake spring and it was too stiff for using with just socks, and I also don't have it hard mounted so it kept moving. I ended up giving it to a friend.
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- PleaseD1e
It isn't essential.
I had my wheel for about a year before I did the brake mod (didn't want to ruin the warranty by opening the pedals).
If I were you, I'd have fun with the G29, get the feel for it and worry about mods later.
It's not difficult to change the spring, it's just quite fiddly and you need to be careful with the wiring. Nixim has a few instructions about the swap.
Clutch and brake mod kit is £33.49 for the pair. http://www.nixim.com/ordering/
I had my wheel for about a year before I did the brake mod (didn't want to ruin the warranty by opening the pedals).
If I were you, I'd have fun with the G29, get the feel for it and worry about mods later.
It's not difficult to change the spring, it's just quite fiddly and you need to be careful with the wiring. Nixim has a few instructions about the swap.
Clutch and brake mod kit is £33.49 for the pair. http://www.nixim.com/ordering/
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- WhippingBoy
No, they're not essential. But it was a massive improvement when I did it, felt significantly better. They're fairly easy to install, a bit fiddly in places, but nothing most blokes with a screwdriver couldn't handle. They'll also void your warranty, but I don't know how Logitech would find out unless you told them about it.
Try the stock set out first & see how you feel, some people find them ok. If you wanna get extra serious then the Ricmotec load cell brake upgrade is very good, & expensive.
http://www.ricmotech.com/Load_Cell_Upgrade_Kit_for_Logitech_G25_G27_Pedals_p/rmt-lc27.htm
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The brake mod is not essential, I used a GTEYE brake spring for years and I thought it was good until I learned left foot braking, since I replace the GTEYE brake spring for the original G29 spring and my times are a lot faster now with my left foot braking.
The GT Omega Pro wheelstand is not to bad because I have one, but do not just put it on the floor or carpet to use it because it just move around to much, you need to bolt it down so it does not move.
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