Lotus GTPlanet Elise 111R Championship - Series Champion: Wiifreak

[redreevos]

Sorry I missed the race guys. Ended up being a crazy week, and one where I wasn't in front of a computer very much. I apologize for not commenting earlier on this week's miss.

Looks from the results you had a good number of people showing up. I hope to make this next weekend's race.

Congrats Tony on the win.. and Wardez for continuing to nix that Laguna curse. Also props to you, Brosif, for following up your win with a podium finish.

 

[GMD]

Well, I had another terrible race. Couldn't keep it on the track at all. Full race report coming later.

Congrats to Tony for absolutely smoking the field. Everyone up to 7th place was lapped at least once.


1. tony1311
2. Wardez
3. BrosifDuder
4. Wiifreak
5. Eeronmm
6. El_Aliens69
7. brandofo
8. TnJF
9. dsgerbc
10. NEPALII
11. DMG_Bra
12. MULE_9242
13. Maatman
14. GTP_CAMikaze

Hi, my name is written wrong, the correct is GMD_Bra
Thanks

 

[BrosifDuder]

Thanks Red! We definitely all got our stuff handed to us by Tony. But it was a fun race.


Just so you guys know, Wardez, iforcev8 and I are still practicing at La Sarthe in the race room.

 

[dsgerbc]

Pretty depressing race. Went off-track like 3-4 times, got lapped twice by the leader and once by other top finishers. Need to spend time figuring out a tune, but no time to do so

Curious though, what people at the top used for pit-stop strategy?

 

[BrosifDuder]

two stop

 

[Wardez]

Tony was so fast it didn't really matter what strategy he used. He could've pitted four times and still won. He did a one stopper. Brosif and I did two. Alien did a good one stop.

I'll put up a good tune I just worked out for La Sarthe later tonight. I'd rather everyone be fast than squirelly at Sarthe considering it's probably going to be over a two hour long race.

 

[CAMikaze]

Will an earlier start be considered considering the length of the race? Say 1 hour earlier?

 

[Alien96]

fun race but im not completely satisfied, i spun 2 times in my second stint n also my pace wasnt that fast, i was doing 25-26.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Congrats to tony for showing up and giving us all a free lesson in how to go fast @ Mazda Raceway. I can't tell you how emasculating it was to move over for your powder pink car toward the end of the race.

I had really good pace this week and had hoped to turn my disappointing qualifying into a podium finish but I got too much realism this weekend. Saturday + Sunday were both brutal hot with no wind. With no air conditioning I spent the whole race broiling and had some lapses in concentration; I remember one point I lost a position to WiiFreak because I had some sweat drip into my eye and I missed a brake point and drove off the road in T2.

Was like really baking in a race car under the California sun. Thought I was prepared with a 12oz glass of water to guzzle at each pit stop, but wow that was just too much for my concentration to hold up for. Checked the thermometer after the race and it was 89°F with two fans roaring and 92°F outside.
So frustrating too since I put down nice batches of 24's and 25's (best was a 24.5xx), just got out weighed by the 4 or 5 really bad laps I put in with my lapsing concentration. Can't wait to put this track behind me and move onto France.

On a positive note... I didn't see any violence this week 👍

 

[BrosifDuder]

@Watson


Click me

 

[Forcednduckshn]

Congrats to Tony on what seemed like a dominant victory , and Wardez/ Brosif for the podiums.

I am at work right now and can't view the quali results, could someone please post them? Laguna Seca is one of my better tracks that I have good XP with, I did a 1 hour session there running the setup from Autumn Ring last week and did a 24.0 best on a pretty solid, but not perfect lap with theoretical pace of 23.xxx. I would imagine that the guys who are killer with GT5 tuning and great drivers probably got low 23's? Maybe a mind blowing high 22? I'm curious to see how I could have fared in quali considering this is one of my strong tracks.

 

[BrosifDuder]

NEPALII was on pole with a 24.782. In practice, Tony was dipping into the 23s and Wardez was right on his tail with 24.0. Most people were running mid 24s.

 

[Forcednduckshn]

Oh cool, looks like I would have been in the battle for pole and a top spot in the race. What sort of pace were you, Tony and Wardez doing in the race? Too bad I couldn't make it at it seems my relative race pace would have been even better than AR. Pretty cool. Congrats again guys 👍

 

[Wardez]

Yeah I thought high 23s were pretty mind blowing.

I wanna see what every one did for their fastest lap. I think I'm gonna upload the replay to youtube as well.

btw we practiced at La Sarthe a bit (Brosif, Wiifreak, Mule, and I). I was able to get a 4:13.5xx in free run. Brosif and I tried our best to give each other a constant bump draft but we sort of lost it through certain portions of the track and was only able to muster up a 4:10. We'll probably see times a couple seconds faster with the massive draft pulling cars up into the 180mph range.

It's not too hard to b-draft safely around Sarthe, you just have to be really careful on the narrow parts and through Porsche curves since going just a bit faster than usual will send you flying off track like a Merc.

btw, I would advise against trying to partner up with people for the race. And I say that from experience. You need to bump draft whoever is in front of you. Treat them like an extension of your own car and use it to try and get yourselves out of the pack as fast as possible. And since it's an extension of yourself, don't carelessly send them flying into turns too fast or bump them into other cars ahead of him. Just think of yourself as a 111R that's double the size.

Whatever two people can do that the cleanest will get ahead quick.

 

[BrosifDuder]

Oh cool, looks like I would have been in the battle for pole and a top spot in the race. What sort of pace were you, Tony and Wardez doing in the race? Too bad I couldn't make it at it seems my relative race pace would have been even better than AR. Pretty cool. Congrats again guys 👍

Tony was fast from the start and led every lap. He did a one-stop race and ran high 23s all the way to 26s at the end of his stints. Everyone else seemed to be experiencing some weird lag issues as it was very hard for people to run consistent laps, regardless of pace or traffic. Wardez complained that he would run a 26 then a 24 then a 26 then a 25, etc. NEPALII wasn't able to run faster than 25.5s in the race despite having a low 24s practice pace. He complained of a total lack of grip and even spun out a few times. I started In the back and worked my way up to third but I was having trouble running anything faster than 25.5s, even in the draft, and it wasn’t until my third stint, by which point I was all alone, that I was able to run mid 24s.

We only ran the race with 14 people but unfortunately there still seemed to be some inconsistencies in connection quality which ultimately translated into varying experiences amongst the field. I think the next step to improving connection quality for the entire room is to ensure (aka enforce) that everyone has dedicated as much of their bandwidth as possible to GT5 and that any unnecessary usage is temporarily discontinued. No Hulu, Netflix, Torrent sharing, etc.

 

[dsgerbc]

I think I'm gonna bail on the rest of the series. Have fun guys.

 

[OwensRacing]

Really wish I could find the time to commit to this series. So many fast drivers. Cars sound incredible.


Gonna restructure my scheduling and attempt to make a few qualifiers and see if I can make a race or two.

Consisting Mule and company are ok with that.

 

[Dr_Watson]

@Watson


Click me

I'm cheap since we only get heat like this maybe 2 weeks a year.
I am seriously considering getting ac at least for my bedroom. I got almost no sleep last night.

We only ran the race with 14 people but unfortunately there still seemed to be some inconsistencies in connection quality which ultimately translated into varying experiences amongst the field. I think the next step to improving connection quality for the entire room is to ensure (aka enforce) that everyone has dedicated as much of their bandwidth as possible to GT5 and that any unnecessary usage is temporarily discontinued. No Hulu, Netflix, Torrent sharing, etc.

I'm still worried about the fact that we're spread across 8,000 miles or so (how far is it from mexico to greece?) of geographic distance. We have no idea how GT handles it's p2p networking so what we get is completely unpredictable results. I love the global aspect (even though Euros are always so bloody fast ) as much as the next guy. But the speed of light is a real factor when you're talking about real-time sharing of information over long distance. Get a list of cities for everyone that was in the race yesterday. Go to google earth and look at how dispersed the dots are... just saying; its probably not people's wifi or mother surfing ebay on the other pc.
But then the only lag i've ever personally experienced was with other people's cars jumping, sliding, teleporting, etc... or just frame rate issues from having 15 cars on screen melting poor fatty's cores.

 

[BrosifDuder]

I'm cheap since we only get heat like this maybe 2 weeks a year.
I am seriously considering getting ac at least for my bedroom. I got almost no sleep last night.

A one-time expense of $50 plus the extra $10-$20 on your electricity bill to run it for a month is a small price to pay for a comfortable night of sleep. If you are only using the unit for 2 months out of the year it should last you for the rest of your life.

Really wish I could find the time to commit to this series. So many fast drivers. Cars sound incredible.


Gonna restructure my scheduling and attempt to make a few qualifiers and see if I can make a race or two.

Consisting Mule and company are ok with that.

Yeah Owens, stop being such a good dad and come race with us! This car is turning into out to be one of my favorite cars in GT5.

 

[Dr_Watson]

A one-time expense of $50 plus the extra $10-$20 on your electricity bill to run it for a month is a small price to pay for a comfortable night of sleep. If you are only using the unit for 2 months out of the year it should last you for the rest of your life.

but complaining is free

 

[Forcednduckshn]

Tony was fast from the start and led every lap. He did a one-stop race and ran high 23s all the way to 26s at the end of his stints. Everyone else seemed to be experiencing some weird lag issues as it was very hard for people to run consistent laps, regardless of pace or traffic. Wardez complained that he would run a 26 then a 24 then a 26 then a 25, etc. NEPALII wasn't able to run faster than 25.5s in the race despite having a low 24s practice pace. He complained of a total lack of grip and even spun out a few times. I started In the back and worked my way up to third but I was having trouble running anything faster than 25.5s, even in the draft, and it wasn’t until my third stint, by which point I was all alone, that I was able to run mid 24s.

We only ran the race with 14 people but unfortunately there still seemed to be some inconsistencies in connection quality which ultimately translated into varying experiences amongst the field. I think the next step to improving connection quality for the entire room is to ensure (aka enforce) that everyone has dedicated as much of their bandwidth as possible to GT5 and that any unnecessary usage is temporarily discontinued. No Hulu, Netflix, Torrent sharing, etc.

Ok, even though that stinks, I am actually quite glad to hear that, as it was exactly what I seemed to experience when running A/R Reverse. I didn't want to go making excuses, but it's clear that the connection has a major impact on performance; my car felt way different in the race, and the frame rate was clearly slower on screen, along with very weird force feedback on the wheel. Still, compared to my race practice sessions when I was hosting, I would do consistent 14.5's or quicker in A/R for many laps, but seemed to slow down by about a second in the actual race from the lag despite pushing hard and driving exactly as I did in practice. This tends to explain how I performed in A/R Reverse then, considering my qualifying pace. Hmm. It's a shame, would really be awesome to have a high-fidelity connection for a series with top talent.

From experience hosting my own room, I have hosted probably 100 nights now in my spec lobby, and never had any lag/ latency issues, save for one night where people mysteriously dropped. In all of the races, I was set to fixed host status, and all of the drivers were either from Canada or the United States. I have never attempted to host races with drivers competing from other continents, but I know that from my experience in other online gaming genre's (i.e. first person shooters) that any time we battled against foreign teams, the lag was very bad and pretty much dictated the outcome - the host, or whoever had the good connection dominated. It's not surprising then that in GT5 (where brake throttle steering inputs are vital down to the .001 of a second) that performance suffers dramatically based on quality of connection. Too bad.

 

[eeronmm]

I heard some people said they were watching some sports from their laptop while racing. This should be absolutely banned, no stream watching, no torrent and no god knows what internet activity while playing. It maybe not affect you but it will affect all other racers.

In my euro racing series it is crutial everyone is having the best connection they can. Before entering the room please clear the cache, it makes a huge difference not just for you connection but to all other people will have much less lag also. It is very hard to know if people will do this but they not forthy racers if they dont do everything thye can for the better racing in this series and in general. Torrent is a must what you have to close while you are online racing.

 

[Wardez]

Also to add to the connection thing. It's not dependant that much on locality.

Eero was telling me that in the Euro only series they still deal with lag, drop outs and the like. In the IS-F series I had issues with my friend Grayfox trying to join the room and dropping out and he lives literally DOWN THE STREET!

It's GT5's pipes guys. They're fussy and completely inconsistent. It's like a bad girlfriend. Sometime's she's down and other times you just want to poke your eyes out.

But I agree that we should probably make everyone pledge to try their best to optimize their connections right before a race.

No streams, I'll stop streaming the races, make sure no computer connected to the router's downloading anything or that any other consoles or boxes are streaming anything like movies either.

Clear the cache and if possible, connect directly with a cable instead of wi-fi.

Not complicated. I'm gonna cut off the rest of the house and do a direct connection from my modem to the PS3 for the Sarthe race - I've got 99 problems but a ****** connection won't be one.

 

[Forcednduckshn]

It's GT5's pipes guys. They're fussy and completely inconsistent. It's like a bad girlfriend. Sometime's she's down and other times you just want to poke your eyes out.Not complicated. I'm gonna cut off the rest of the house and do a direct connection from my modem to the PS3 for the Sarthe race - I've got 99 problems but a ****** connection won't be one.

HAHAHA. Wardez, you're alright in my book:tup: LOL

To add to that, I always run a hardline dedicated from my router in house. I disable the wireless connection on my laptop and turn off all digital cable boxes. It's just fully committed GT5 Only:tup:

 

[NEPALII]

Ok, even though that stinks, I am actually quite glad to hear that, as it was exactly what I seemed to experience when running A/R Reverse. I didn't want to go making excuses, but it's clear that the connection has a major impact on performance; my car felt way different in the race, and the frame rate was clearly slower on screen, along with very weird force feedback on the wheel.
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This is exactly how I felt during the race in Laguna! Everything was just different! GT5 has some weird servers, they have to step it up. Its no excuses Force, its really how it is. As I was racing, I knew I wasnt the only one affected as I saw other drivers spinning and making many mistakes! Too bad I handled the lag pretty badly compared to the rest of the field. Gotta practice more on "laggy racing". Sometimes I wonder if virtual racing is easier than real racing like many say.

 

[NEPALII]

Im praying for La Sarthe to be less "laggy", as Im pretty sure Im not going to survive racing 2 hours under those conditions, specially at night o_0. I'm already scared

 

[Forcednduckshn]

Ok, even though that stinks, I am actually quite glad to hear that, as it was exactly what I seemed to experience when running A/R Reverse. I didn't want to go making excuses, but it's clear that the connection has a major impact on performance; my car felt way different in the race, and the frame rate was clearly slower on screen, along with very weird force feedback on the wheel.

This is exactly how I felt during the race in Laguna! Everything was just different! GT5 has some weird servers, they have to step it up. Its no excuses Force, its really how it is. As I was racing, I knew I wasnt the only one affected as I saw other drivers spinning and making many mistakes! Too bad I handled the lag pretty badly compared to the rest of the field. Gotta practice more on "laggy racing". Sometimes I wonder if virtual racing is easier than real racing like many say.

Good to hear man, thanks for sharing and it's good to know a top driver has experienced the same 👍

 

[eeronmm]

Im praying for La Sarthe to be less "laggy", as Im pretty sure Im not going to survive racing 2 hours under those conditions, specially at night o_0. I'm already scared

It will be much less lag as it is an huge track and cars will most likely be more spread out and that means less lag, maybe the start and few first laps.

 

[Dr_Watson]

It will be much less lag as it is an huge track and cars will most likely be more spread out and that means less lag, maybe the start and few first laps.

yeah... I have a feeling that you're always sending data back and forth to the peers that are closest to your car on track. At least it makes logical sense as the cars nearest to you are the only ones that have the potential of trying to occupy the same space and time.

Has anyone ever had problems when they're all by themselves? I know I haven't. The only time I can remember actually feeling lag issues (I had a wtf no brakes! moment once, and in the GVE-r miata pre-race there was a time where no matter how hard I pushed I was a second slow for no reason) I was involved in multi-car bunches.

At the very least spreading the cars out lets the ps3 dedicate more precious cycles to crunching input, network, and physics data rather than rendering brightly colored polygons.

 

[Müle]

Haven't gotten a chance to look at the replay yet, but I'm about to do that now. (though I think it's obvious who got fastest lap.)

I'm still really disappointed with how my race turned out. Seems like if it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any at all.