Lotus GTPlanet Elise 111R Championship - Series Champion: Wiifreak

[Schadenfreude13]

Booyakisha!!!!!



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TRON

Good up/down rates, but your ping seems a bit high...

 

[gravydavy35]

25ms 17.77mbps 3.76 is this good or bad?

 

[Dapper]

I'll be the first to say that I have no plans to run into anyone(because that is what you guys do, it isn't bump drafting), or having anyone run into me.

The idea of bump drafting in a Lotus is just stupid, much less the 'wide open throttle until you slam into the sucker in front of you' tactic. If there is a problem with that sentiment please let me know and I'll happily sit this one out. 👍

 

[BrosifDuder]

I'll be the first to say that I have no plans to run into anyone(because that is what you guys do, it isn't bump drafting), or having anyone run into me.

The idea of bump drafting in a Lotus is just stupid, much less the 'wide open throttle until you slam into the sucker in front of you' tactic. If there is a problem with that sentiment please let me know and I'll happily sit this one out. 👍

Nope, that's good to know.

I agree that bumpdrafting in a Lotus is ridiculous but the draft in GT5 is ridiculous and if it is faster to bumpdraft then so be it.

 

[plate88]

25ms 17.77mbps 3.76 is this good or bad?

I would say speedtest would give you around a "B" score. Your ping is low and the speeds are more than enough:tup:

 

[eeronmm]

Bump drafting should not be allowed, it is not Nascar. Then again how can you make sure people are not bump drafting so only reason it should be allowed is that it is hard to make sure someone is bump drafting.

 

[Müle]

There's a difference between bump-drafting and "slam-drafting."

bump-drafting is when you're attaching yourself to the back bumper of the car in front, giving them a little bump at the beginning of the straight and you're both gaining speed, you're both benefiting, and you're not being reckless by trying to pass each other into the chicanes/Mulsanne corner. Also, you let off way before your braking point.

Slam-drafting is when you get a huge run on somebody, get in their draft, and slam into them when you're going 30 mph faster. Sure, you'll both be faster, but it's reckless and causes damage.

There is nothing wrong with bump-drafting. In fact, I encourage it. Slam-drafting is a big no-no, and is easily preventable by the behind driver simply letting off the gas, or dragging the brakes. It's faster to bump-draft then to continuously pass each other. It is also a lot safer, contrary to what some may think.

In the Integra race, all of us at the front were bump-drafting, and there were no issues from it. We all let off early, we all avoided slamming into each other (either by passing, or letting off the gas if you got a huge run). Wardez, Wiifreak, Brandofo, RedReevos and myself are the ones who were racing at the front, and who are racing in this series. I think all of us (especially Wiifreak and brandofo, who ran away with the 1-2 finish after slower pitstops by myself and Nastra) can attest to this.

I'll be the first to say that I have no plans to run into anyone(because that is what you guys do, it isn't bump drafting), or having anyone run into me.

The idea of bump drafting in a Lotus is just stupid, much less the 'wide open throttle until you slam into the sucker in front of you' tactic. If there is a problem with that sentiment please let me know and I'll happily sit this one out.

There is very much a difference between bumping and slamming. Bumping = good Slamming = bad. If you get damaged and crash from someone slamming you, just report it to me, and I'll deal with it.

Like Brosif said, bump-drafting here is 100% a result of GT5's slipstream physics. If it's faster, we'll take advantage of it.

Bump drafting should not be allowed, it is not Nascar.

I agree that sthis isn't nascar, but the concept is mostly the same. Underpowered cars (The Nascar races where they bump-draft, they use an engine restrictor to cut the horsepower by almost half) on a very fast track with a large draft.

 

[BrosifDuder]

Bump drafting should not be allowed, it is not Nascar.

Don't make me post videos of non-NASCAR bump drafting.

 

[plate88]

I don't condone the slam drafting, but bump drafting is an element of the game and real life for that matter. I always be sure to lift off the throttle a bit before touching someone's bumper and let off or brake sooner than the one I'm bump drafting before a corner. We're all capable and sensible racers, so I don't see it as that big of deal.

Whoever can stay in the draft, bumpdraft, and keep it on the track will most likely be the winner on Sunday.

 

[NEPALII]

I have two questions: Can we go wide on after turn 3(Dunlop Chicane)? Also the chicanes on the long straight(Mulsane Straight), I take them by the inside, can I do that? I dont cut them through the sand, I just use the inside tarmac.

 

[Wardez]

Just use the OLR Nep. If you have two tires outside the white lines or beyond a rumble strip then it's not a clean lap.

So you can't go wide on the Dunlop chicane exit and you have to stay on the rumble strips going through the straight chicanes.

 

[NEPALII]

Just use the OLR Nep. If you have two tires outside the white lines or beyond a rumble strip then it's not a clean lap.

So you can't go wide on the Dunlop chicane exit and you have to stay on the rumble strips going through the straight chicanes.

I was too lazy to read the OLR. Now I got it, thanks for the help.

 

[Dapper]

Just use the OLR Nep. If you have two tires outside the white lines or beyond a rumble strip then it's not a clean lap.

So you can't go wide on the Dunlop chicane exit and you have to stay on the rumble strips going through the straight chicanes.

"Track specific boundaries will be clarified...", straight from the OLR. There are rumble strips several feet to the inside of the last chicanes inside of the curbs, or the outside of the "fast right hander". And the red parts on the straight, that is(or should be) legal despite being outside the white lines...

From this weeks WRS-

All Hard surfaces are track. This includes Tarmac, Rumbles, Cobbles, Concrete and tarmac over white boundary lines.

 

[Dr_Watson]

This weeks WRS isn't in the French countryside. The red paint has never been legal at Le Sarthe in WRS competition (it's also illegal in reality). It's always specifically excluded when racing there. Pavement beyond kerbing is also always illegal (the concrete slab before the first tunnel at deep forest is a great example).


Are people course cutting to get such low times?
Could someone record a questionably legal lap and put it on the you tubes so we can debate the lines?

 

[NEPALII]

I think on qualifying it will be easy to catch someone going over the lines, but in the race? It will be hard, the moderators will have to watch a +2 hr replay to catch someone cheating. Wow thats a lot of work! I dont like Le Mans on GT5 for this reason, its so complicated to apply rules here.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I think on qualifying it will be easy to catch someone going over the lines, but in the race? It will be hard, the moderators will have to watch a +2 hr replay to catch someone cheating. Wow thats a lot of work! I dont like Le Mans on GT5 for this reason, its so complicated to apply rules here.

how good are the corner cut penalties if we turn them on?

 

[paulmac2k9]

ill try upload a lap but im absolute crap at le sarthe im all over the place (not by choice) its just i cant get the lines right

 

[Dapper]

Pavement beyond kerbing is also always illegal (the concrete slab before the first tunnel at deep forest is a great example).

No it's not. Didn't you read the part of my post where I quoted EDK from this week's WRS? It clearly states the opposite of what you said.

All Hard surfaces are track. This includes Tarmac, Rumbles, Cobbles, Concrete and tarmac over white boundary lines.

 

[BrosifDuder]

Well, I know that the parent series (FMSC and Lexus IS-F) of this championship state that for a lap to be considered "clean" two tires must remain on or within the edge of the track. The edge of the track is considered to be the white lines and kerbs (mind you, kerbs are painted whereas tarmac or asphalt is not).

As in real life, if an advantage is gained by cutting or extending the track edge then it will most likely be deemed illegal by the stewards. So use your head.

The "fast right-hander" aka Tertre Rouge has cones on the outside for a reason. If you are in jeopardy of hitting those cones it's because you are too wide and need to reevaluate your driving line.

 

[BigDawg]

so is this where i sign up to join this racing series? sorry for such a stupid question but i just joined.

 

[BrosifDuder]

so is this where i sign up to join this racing series? sorry for such a stupid question but i just joined.

Yes, read the OP (original post) and check out the section under the second post called "Sign-ups". It explains what you need to do to register.

 

[BrosifDuder]

No it's not. Didn't you read the part of my post where I quoted EDK from this week's WRS? It clearly states the opposite of what you said.

Wow, somebody really wants to use every part of the "track".

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Are people course cutting to get such low times?
Could someone record a questionably legal lap and put it on the you tubes so we can debate the lines?

Wish I had the ability to do that. In terms of using curbing and such, I tend to be very aggressive. Mind you, I do this with the "two wheels on tarmac" rule in mind but it's very difficult to judge for myself from bumper cam.

However, when I was running in the GT4 Cup, the organizer always had a post before each race with pics on areas that are considered off-course and therefore not allowed.

 

[BrosifDuder]

I dont like Le Mans on GT5 for this reason, its so complicated to apply rules here.

We could use the 2005 version which eliminates this problem due to there being grass where much of the 2009 version has tarmac run-off. But the 2005 version doesn't have time progression.

 

[redreevos]

No it's not. Didn't you read the part of my post where I quoted EDK from this week's WRS? It clearly states the opposite of what you said.

Yeah.. poor Kevin(EDK) has to adjust the track boundaries on a lot of the circuits. I have raced in quite a few of the WRS races this season.. Almost always the runoffs and green sections of tracks are no-no's. But it really is a chore to clarify.

We raced this course in the last series with Mule, and I think he ran it quite well. I think it is within common sense to know when you are running wider than what should be considered track.

And for instance on quoting Kevin.. depending on the week.. there are different rules:

The Concrete/Cobble Surface found on the outside of the rumble strip in several turns is not track
See examples below. Those who use these runoff areas without keeping at least 2 wheels on Tarmac or Red and White Rumble Strips will be DQ'd.

Hope this helps, and doesn't stoke the fire.. but I think all went well when we ran the Integras here.

And sorry.. once again.. I have a super busy weekend and I am most likely going to miss this race too. Good luck guys!

 

[Dapper]

Wow, somebody really wants to use every part of the "track".

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. I have no concerns about myself, and I don't want others using what isn't part of the track, ie anywhere beyond curbs.

 

[NEPALII]

how good are the corner cut penalties if we turn them on?

They are good, but the problem are the collision penalties. The game gives you a penalty for the slightest little touch.

 

[Dapper]

They are good, but the problem are the collision penalties. The game gives you a penalty for the slightest little touch.

Where is the problem?

 

[NEPALII]

Where is the problem?

For example, if you try to overtake a driver and both of you rub each other(which is still a clean overtake) the game will give you a penalty or the other driver. I have had situations where another car bumps into me and I get an impact penalty! Its ridiculous.

 

[BigDawg]

#30 BigDawg (BigDawg030): ardent red / Dolomite Grey Pearl Effect

add me if you want...also according to the original post my car should have 264 HP and 560 PP but my car is off from that, 255 HP and 553 PP i started with the base tune is there something i'm missing?