Mad FinnTuners Co.™ - Finished 301010 with GT-Rdammerung - BIG THANKS everyone!

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That truck isnt in response to me makin the beast ram? is it? Or are you just running out of cars.
 
Kingofweasles - That's one mighty impressive review in the middle of our most silent era ever! Big thanks! 👍

I have to admit that the car understeers more than I'd like it to, and the possible NTSC vs. PAL difference discussed over the last few pages may play a role too, but in the end it's a Supra and has an ungodly heavy iron block straight six under the hood which makes curing understeer more than a bit tricky. More oversteer built in resulted in noticably less controllability in those slow corners the car now shines in - as well as brakings - so I decided to go for the safe option. Having a suspension designed more than 20 years ago it's suffering from its age when talking about outright grip. And I dare to disagree about the difficulties on bumpy tracks. Did you ever see the Nürburgring lap of the mysterious test mule? It was this car with a slightly earlier suspension setup.

fbccars924 - Neither of those, a coincidence. The pick-up pair was originally planned mid-July and was supposed to consist of a Ford F-150 and the Tacoma but the serious shortcomings of the Ford saw me changing into the Chevrolet.
 
Greycap
fbccars924 - Neither of those, a coincidence. The pick-up pair was originally planned mid-July and was supposed to consist of a Ford F-150 and the Tacoma but the serious shortcomings of the Ford saw me changing into the Chevrolet.
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Ahh I see. Well Try the Ram. My tune is mediocre on par with your tunes but maybe you can do a better job.:sly:
 
My oh my.. I think I can hear the roar of prehistoric beast. They're close, better be cautious.. They might bite. :nervous:
 
And zero digits worth of traction to add to the equation. I don't even remember when was the last time I had to refrain from putting the pedal to the metal this heavily.
 
This is a noob's review of the Lancer VIII SE, the one with 578HP.

Suspension
The suspension of the Lancer is incredible. You can feel the road. The ride isn't harsh yet grips the road perfectly. The nose dips a bit while braking but overall the brakes are terrific. They stop you in a timely fashion and are not too strong. There is an abundance of traction due to the grippy R3 tires. The R3's will light up if you drive in the grass due to the torque of the tires. The car is very stable when driven at its potential; it is rather hard to induce an oversteer. And if you it oversteers, the AYC will stabilize the car to a certain extent. Lifting the throttle off can enable you to turn somewhat better when you full throttle it through a turn.

The gears ratios are done extremely well. They match the car's powerband and provides steady power for the 4 wheels. The maximum i did was ~280km/h, but I think it could go faster than that. The acceleration of the car was phenomenal; better than the Maclaren by Benz.

Here coming the important part:
I did 10 laps on the Tsukuba track. The fastest lap i did with out NOS was 56.60X seconds, but I'm not the fastest driver around.

The Lancer felt alive when using the DS2. It was sensitive, but not too sensitive.

Overall, I would give this car a 8.5/10 for a track car and 9/10 for fun factor. I base these marks on the Suzuki GSX-R.
 
Not even much of a noob's review judging by the time - you aren't that badly off the pace! It's not a hard car to drive for the most part but braking while crossing a crest is a guaranteed way to get the tail out and it's not likely to come under control again. In a way Tsukuba is a good track for it as downforce isn't a too critical factor there and the mechanical grip can shine in the hairpins. Thanks for the review, good to see that the old cars can still impress! 👍
 
And now it's time to let loose the old dogs of war. What they may lose in tire life and economy, they'll win in terms of speed and outright fun.
 
Mercury Cougar SVO '67

650 bhp, 1075 Nm, 1205 kg


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Parts to fit:
Sports Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
NA Tuning Stage 3
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
FC Suspension
S3 Tyres
Variable Centre Differential
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Refresh
Oil Change
New Wheels (optional)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 8.0 / 7.5
Ride Height: 150 / 160
Bound: 5 / 4
Rebound: 9 / 7
Camber: 2.5 / 2.0
Toe: 0 / -2
Stabilizers: 3 / 4

Brake Controller
Brakes: 7 / 12

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.401
2nd: 1.652
3rd: 1.235
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.850
6th: 0.725
Final Gear: 2.750

Autoset 16

LSD
Initial: 5
Acceleration: 25
Deceleration: 10

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0

The '67 Cougar XR-7 was an oddball of a muscle car, or actually it's hard to say if it was a muscle car at all. It was basically the second generation Mustang in a luxury disguise so technically a ponycar but boasting what was most definitely a muscle car engine, the mighty FE-series 390. What is certain is that it drove like a boat and that's what had to be changed.

Resurrecting the old SVO name, standing for Special Vehicle Operations for those who didn't know, the blue road cruiser was in for a full treatment by the crazy guys from up north. The engine was fiddled with enough to nearly double the power, the transmission was changed for a six speed Getrag, the suspension came from a hulk of an old racing Mustang... and then we went nuts when we found out that the drum brakes had to stay thanks to not finding suitable hubs to mount discs on. So it accelerates like a beast, turns relatively well, but doesn't have any idea about what the word "deceleration" means. Admittedly that's a problematic feature in an otherwise nice car but hey, we did our best. Actually it seems we did a bit too well with the engine as traction is in seriously short supply so take my word and be careful with the accelerator until you get accustomed with it. From then on it'll drift all day long.

 
Corvette SS-RS

602 bhp, 772 Nm, 1266 kg


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Parts to fit:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
NA Tuning Stage 3
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
FC Suspension
S3 Tyres
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Increase (rollcage)
Oil Change
New Wheels (optional)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 9.0 / 5.5
Ride Height: 110 / 140
Bound: 4 / 2
Rebound: 10 / 10
Camber: 2.0 / 2.5
Toe: 0 / -2
Stabilizers: 6 / 5

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 10

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.294
2nd: 1.465
3rd: 1.1071
4th: 0.892
5th: 0.647
Final Gear: 3.500

Autoset 20

LSD
Initial: 5
Acceleration: 25
Deceleration: 10

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0





It started off as restoring project, and as usual, our appetite grew as the project went on. As much as it looks like your regular C3 'vette, underneath is a whole lot better car. Gone is the soggy suspension and sloth-like handling, replaced by precision stuff from racing circuits. 180mph is a piece of cake, and disc brakes stop you faster than what you'd expect. The car also lends itself to sideways hooliganism willingly, but be careful.. When it bites, it bites hard.
 
Mazdaspeed MX-5 Spirit RS '04
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Never underestimate a FINN. When this was posted way back when I didn't really give it the time of day because I'm not a drifter. Well let me tell you that i found out today the hard way. I'm a diehard miata fan. Have two in the garage that I bounce back and forth between. One is an 89 tuned for endurance races by Leo the other is the Mazda MX-5 1600RS R-Limited '04. So I figured I'd give it a whirl. As i said before, I'm not a drifter but this car is alot of fun. It drives like a real car! And you know as well as I do that GT4 makes you raise an eyebrow here and there. It slides and does it very well but its controllable. The acceleration is great and the top speed is satisfactory. The suspension setup is a work of art if you ask me. What I like most about this car is if you drive this car like a trackday car and not a drifter it forces you to DRIVE. This car is perfect for honing your skills. It's the perfect practice car if you ask me. Nice little bonus with this one too. If you want a race dominating droptop slap on some slicks and a wing with max downforce then add the suspension setup from the Mazda MX-5 1600RS R-Limited '04. Great job Greycap. You never dissapoint us.
 
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To be honest, I'm a bit confused about what you actually reviewed because the text makes it seem like it was the 1600RS R-Limited but then again the handling description most definitely matches the Spirit RS. And if it was the Spirit RS... why did it get a drifter reputation at all? Well, admittedly it was slippery as hell but it was meant to be just a normal track car and the setup ended up that way. But yes, it was a success that never really took to the air because, as said, everyone thought it was a drifter. Thanks for the review! 👍
 
Nissan CALSONIC GT-R Evolution

577 bhp, 561 Nm, 1260 kg


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Parts to fit:
R3 Tyres
Oil Change
New Wheels (optional)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 9.0 / 8.0
Ride Height: 100 / 115
Bound: 6 / 4
Rebound: 10 / 8
Camber: 2.2 / 2.2
Toe: -1 / -2
Stabilizers: 5 / 6

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 6

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 3.000
2nd: 2.000
3rd: 1.500
4th: 1.200
5th: 1.000
Final Gear: 3.650

Autoset 9

LSD
Initial: 5/5
Acceleration: 5/10
Deceleration: 5/10

Downforce
Amount: 38 / 38

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0





What you're looking at, is a piece of glorious automotive history from Japan. This particular car simply dominated the Group - A, JTCC, ATCC.. Everything, including the legendary Bathurst. With this car I am finishing off my colourful GT4 career, as its the ultimate manifestation of a race-bred R32, polished and adjusted to the best possible performance without touching the engine too much. I thank you all for the attention and participation, and I wish that we shall meet again in GT5!
 
Thanks Leo! Although I've been almost just a lurker here, I've had many amusing moments here in this phenomenal shop. I hope we see in the nearest future speeding @ GVS!
p.s. I can hear the call of that Calsonic.. ..but maybe in GT5 should I tame her...

finbaek
 
Good to see that you haven't faded to the background completely, old buddy :D I guarantee that at least one tuning garage will keep GVS close to it's heart, unless we find a track that has even better presentation of different kind of track sections within one lap.
 
Calsonic Skyline GT-R Evolution review​
I tried tuning this car myself before. The results weren't pretty, as it was an understeering pig most of the times but sometimes it would break into drifts. It was crap against JGTC cars.

I didn't know what to make of the car at first. That was before I drove it, though. The car was incredibly well-balanced. Only the most ham-fisted of drivers could get it to understeer. The absence of the ATTESA ET-S system wasn't a problem. I managed to get into the 1'11s at Midfield Raceway after just 1 lap. I wouldn't be surprised if it could break into the 1'09s. I brought it into a JGTC race at Fuji 90s, with 47 A-Spec points on offer :indiff:. However, on R3s, it can barely last 5 laps, and not the full 6. On the final lap my 18-second lead became 6 seconds :(. Not good. On R1s, though, the car is still competitive - the game offers 93 A-Spec points this time. Although the Xanavi Skyline would give me a closer race this time, I still won by 3.8 seconds. Although R1s did negatively affect cornering speed, the balanced handling was still there. Overall, an excellent tune, but hey, what d'ya expect - it's Mad Finn Tuners, after all. :D

Score: 10/10

I'm going to see if my good friend Hiroto Matsuda would like to try it...:sly:
 
Good to hear that it worked out so well for you. Did you by any chance try out R2's? That would seem to be a nice compromise between cornering speeds and duration. And by all means, recommend the tunes to others and spread the word. 👍
 
Leonidae@MFT
And by all means, recommend the tunes to others and spread the word.
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Actually, Hiroto Matsuda is a character in a GT4 story/race report I made. I said I would recommend it to him because he drives an R32 GT-R.
 
Hah, I never even realised there was a Group A R32 in GT4. Group A was a very messed up formula though (or rather good concept, poor execution), hence the reason it didn't last very long anywhere in the world.
 
fbccars924
Im having withdrawls.
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Someone's jonesing because of me? That's...
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:D
 
Paulie
Hah, I never even realised there was a Group A R32 in GT4. Group A was a very messed up formula though (or rather good concept, poor execution), hence the reason it didn't last very long anywhere in the world.
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You say that only because RX-7's, Sierras, Volvos and other turbocharged wonders were spanking archaic V8's at Bathurst.. ;) j/k..
 
Nismo GT-R V-SpecII S-Tune '00

510 bhp, 522 Nm, 1245 kg


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Parts to fit:
Semi-racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Displacement Increase
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
Turbo Kit Stage 2
FC Suspension
R3 Tyres
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Oil Change
Rear Wing
New Wheels (optional, but it isn't the same without a set of black Nismos)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 9.0 / 8.0
Ride Height: 111 / 120
Bound: 3 / 6
Rebound: 7 / 8
Camber: 2.5 / 2.0
Toe: 0 / -2
Stabilizers: 3 / 5

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 7

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.550
2nd: 1.650
3rd: 1.250
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.800
Final Gear: 4.100

Autoset 13

Downforce
Amount: 30 / 15

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0

This is the end, guys. And maybe girls. We're leaving GT4 and moving on to new challenges... and no other car can carry us over better than the good old R32 GT-R. This is its - as well as ours - story.

More than five years ago, in early October 2005, I bought a black Nismo S-Tune. No specific reason why, perhaps I just wanted something new. On the 31st day of that month I went and sent my application to join Skyline Squadron, a small online team totally unknown to me at the time. It was also when I first got in contact with the guy that just released that blue R32 a few days ago. Yep, the (now) historical meeting of me and Leonidae. We used to have races inside the team and in the first one I participated in I drove the black R32 to see if it was any good. I won that race... and the pattern had begun forming without anybody knowing it yet. Even if I'm blowing my own horn here a bit I have to say that I won quite a few more races after that, reaching the climax in "Generation Games", one team driving R32s, one R33s and one R34s through an assortment of circuits. By that time the all black S-Tune had become something of a synonym of me and in the Games it swept the floor with the rest, accompanied by a certain gunmetal grey V-SpecII. You can guess what that car later became if you've followed our process over the years...

In short, this car was what changed my GT playing forever. It has introduced me to online racing (although only in the form of time trials), serious tuning and a few wonderful individuals. A special mention goes to our Sqn Ldr, better known for his relentless need for top speed, Dark Elite. Under his skilled command we began a challenge with Team Toyota and after crushing them quite handily in the first race of what was to be a series we never heard of them again. He can also be held responsible, if without him even knowing it at the time, for giving us MFT in the form we know it today. It began life as Leonidae's small(ish) scale personal garage in early 2007 and very soon after that we adopted it as the team name for the previously mentioned Generation Games. Those having come to an end we began planning a new tuning garage type. We made the dream come true but neither of us knew what it would lead to, the original idea was to tune a couple of cars for people to drive. As much of a cliché as it is, the rest is history. That history now consists of 188 cars and almost 300.000 visitors at the time of writing this. My thanks for everyone who helped us make it this far!

There isn't much to be said about the tune itself, most of the mechanical changes can be read in The Legend Will Rise Again, the story about how it became what it is today. Sure, some things don't match with reality but who cares, the entire GT series is a big fairytale in itself... and something about the setup quality tells the fact that it's been fine tuned every now and then during these five years. It's better handling than ever, faster than ever and without any doubt as close to perfection as my tunes go. It deserves it whole heartedly.

 
Such a beautiful end to such a wonderful era for this garage. I'll be sure to try these cars out as soon as I can (read: whenever this 9 hour race finally finishes). I've loved just about every single tune that I have tried from this garage. You guys have helped me keep my interest in GT4 (it likely wouldn't have gotten near as much play time if I had never found this garage), and I have learned a lot about tuning just from looking at your set-ups (your Limited Slip settings in particular). I'm looking forward to your Gran Turismo 5 garage, assuming you guys are going to move to it. If you guys need someone to bounce ideas off of, or something else that I may be able to help with, you have my WLM ID.

Thanks for the good time, and Godspeed.
 
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How can I ever dream of competing with you guys? I look forward to your releases once GT5 comes out. 👍 x infinity.
 
I'm going to give you guys my personal view of how good MFT has been over the years.

When I first delved into the tuning challenges (around 2007-08), there was already playful banter between the garages (RRV, MFT, Aussie Tuners, etc.) about who was better and each time we had a challenge, you were almost guaranteed to see those guys somewhere in the Top 3. The only times you didn't were when they were trying to handicap themselves with a weaker car and even then, their tuning prowess took that crappy car and turned it into something that could handle, and brake, and turn properly, and their attention to detail in their adjustments all combined to make the car perform to the levels that other people were with more powerful and capable cars.

As I got more into circuit tuning myself (but still representing the drag racers!! :D) and battling against the other garages, I realised that although the other garages did build phenomenal cars, MFT built phenomenal cars consistently. I got to the point that some of my cars were better head to head against the other garages, but MFT kept improving and I found it hard to close the performance gap to them or get the consistency myself like they had already achieved.

By the time I opened GME in mid '09, my single goal of that garage was to take on the might that was MFT and over that time, whenever I have built a car I make sure:
a) They had not tuned it yet (which is hard when they already had 100+ tunes at the time!!). :lol:

b) If I did build a similar car, to make it better. Nearly all the garages have a few common cars (Skylines, RX7's, Silvia's, Celica's, etc.) that you can run against each other to see which garage had the best tune for that car.

I've been able to achieve similar pace with MFT, but not consistently like them. To me today, MFT has remained as the #1 team up until now, and although I've come close to you guys I concede that on most occasions I would be just behind you, especially if it was Greycap tuning the car. On a circuit, there is no equal to you guys but you both provide the best competition for me because you guys knew I was just behind you. :cool:

Every garage that has been opened in the past two years has some link back to MFT due to the inspiration they give other tuners to go out there and try and be the next Leo & Greycap and be the best tuner they could be. :)

Congratulations on being such champions of the GT4 Tuning Scene Greycap & Leonidae and I for one can't wait to see what I know you guys will be able to do with GT5. You guys are two of the best rivals I've ever had the pleasure of gaming against and I hope this continues in the future and we can race head to head with eachother. :cool: The monkeys salute you!! 👍👍
 
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