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yeah chute boxe likes to jump people aparently. :P i mean they are so ready to just jump into the ring. They even jumped Crazy Horse and he supposedly Knocked out Wanderlei Silva.
 
yeah in Pride and Shooto and ufc, there are some fighters with very interesting stories. Like kid yamamoto and Enson Enue fighting off The Japanese mafia (Yakuza). Yakuza have been trying to fix matches but they've been unsuccessfull. Chute Box Jumped Crazy Horse after He beat that Japanese actor in the Pride New Years Eve tournament. (The japanese actor was training with chute box for the fight).

and all of this stuff is REAL lol.
 
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Sad news... My sensei is moving to Denver. Some asshole guy forced himself on his wife or something in her car with his two children, Akira and his baby girl. The detective, however, minimized what happened and just gave the guy a misdemeanor battery charge or whatever. He's walking the streets as I type. They're fighting to get him locked up, though. I'm not sure if they will leave before then. Basically, the family is very annoyed with South Florida, especially after moving from here to Japan for 5 years and then having to come back. They originally wanted to settle in Denver, but there were no openings. He's not leaving right away, but he is leaving. In fact, his wife is leaving with the children to go back to her family in Japan for a while. My whole family will leave eventually as well. After being here for 40 years, we are definitely not happy with what Florida has become and is becoming.

There is some good news, though. I'm glad to have met my sensei, Mr. Mapp. He has really inspired me and my whole kendo experience so far has shown me that there are good, intelligent people in the world and around me. He will be bringing Sensei Meade, one of the senior kendoka and yodan of the miami club. Mapp wants to make sure that we get the best teacher possible before we leave. I would be extremely honored to train with Meade, though. That guy is cool. He's very very, very Samurai -- all cliches aside. He was also an olympic judo competitor. I wonder if he'll laugh at the Atemi-Ryu dojo that we're sort of branched off from.
 
sad to hear the news. that is very onfortunate and a horrible thing to happen :(

Your new sensei competed in the olympics? has he ever gone against Yoshida, Ogawa, or Swain?
 
Well, he's not our new sensei yet, but my sensei is trying to get him to come.

Mike Meade is kind of old, though. I'd guess 60's or late 60's. He might've been before Swain's time... but, I honestly don't know.

edit: Check this out: http://kendoka.org/kendojidai.jpg

the japanese translation of the Shidogakuin Kendo page. Look at the bottom left picture. That guy on the right of the pic with the shaved head looks A LOT like my sensei. It's probably him.
 
Sup guys. Just thought I'd let everyone know that Mike Meade is super cool. I love the guy. He's very informative and my kendo has improved a ton already.

Now that I'm getting closer towards intermediate kendo, I'm a lot more trainwreck-like after class. Hahaha. Last Monday, I was just destroyed near bed time. I love it, though. It just feels so good for whatever reason.

Anyway, that guard pass was dope! Hahaha. The Limp Bizkit music was kind of lame, though.
 
I'm highly annoyed right now. My sensei has been sick for a month now, so this means no training. I'm thinking about going to another dojo, because this way I don't see any progress... no idea when he might be coming back either.


By the way that salto mortale butt munch move was pretty funny, I bet he didnt see that one coming.
 
yeah that would be a good idea. some good schools even give a day or two of free lessons. so you could go dojo hopping :P
 
Yeah, my current dojo is at university, so they only have one sensei there. I do wado-ryu there, but I was going to quit going there anyway when I get my final thesis done. More nearby to home is a kyokushin school, it'd probably be hard to readjust to that style (probably starting all over again), but at least I already know someone who trains there.
 
check out this fight :D i'm a big fan of both hansen and azeredo man hansen really was on fire that night. he's a beast lol he ate 2 very hard hammerfists to the face like they were nothing. also.. he ate a few headstomps and didnt get phased at all.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALJOTJPaRqU&search=hansen


and 2 links to one of the most exciting grappling fights i've ever seen. With the great dutchman Bas Rutten giving commentary. both guys are blackbelts in brazilian jiujitsu and it shows with all those crazy reversals
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zhnutVGLuJ8&search=azeredo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EiIvrVHWL6U&search=azeredo
 
The links are dead.

My karate teacher has been replaced for now, by the Jiu Jitsu teacher. I doubt he knows much karate, but it isn't big of a deal because Wado already has a lot of similarities to jiu jitsu. It's pretty fun for a change, throwing people and doing arm/leg locks. I wouldn't want to do it very often though, the bigger they are the harder they fall, so with my 6'5 I prefer to stay on my feet and use them to kick. :D

Btw my karate teacher has mono (disease of pfeiffer).


I will be leaving that dojo though, but I'll just postpone it for now (it's much cheaper there).
 
mono is horrible you dont want to catch that :( its like you lose alot of your stamina and strength when you get it...
I lost a wrestling match against someone because i had mono but i didnt know it... I was totally confidant i was gonna end the match in under 10 seconds but as soon as i went for a takedown i felt like i had no energry... i was horrible :( i went to the doctor and he told me i had mono

Any of you guys watching Ultimate fight night?
 
Gabkicks
another good vid talking about traditional martial arts :P
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7674028043115699716&q=TAEKWONDO+VS+NINJITSU+IN+UFC.&pl=true
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Nice video but a bit generalistic. Sure, I'll be the first to say that a black belt doesn't make you invincible, but you can't generalize all the martial arts either. The videos shown for example are of semi contact karate matches. If that's all you do I indeed believe it might hinder you by making you think that a street fight is like just another karate match.... but even then it still gives you an edge over someone who is untrained. You're trained, physically strong and know how to react to a punch. The video in the example shows a guy being attacked by more than one attacker, of course this would be a difficult situation.

Of course high backwards kicks aren't going to help you much in real life combat, that's why you can't compare tae kwon do to kyokushin, or you can't expect that judo will help you against multiple attackers.


If you'd tell me that any random street punk could take on one of those black belt karatekas in the first video you'd have to be kidding, dojo or not, they'll get smashed. These karatekas have something that street punks don't have, agility, balance and basic know how. After a street punk kicks he doesn't pull back his leg, that's when a karateka will knock him down.


Not saying that my karate training will help me much in a fight right now, since I've only been doing it for one and half a year, but if you become really skilled and physically excellent it gives you a very strong edge when it comes to fighting.
 
Oh boy, now I feel it's time to enter the conversation. Gabkicks, I can understand your dislike for traditional martial arts, but the same arguments used in that video you posted could be used against against your beloved MMA/grappling 'competitions'. Grapplers are dominant on the ground, but in a street situation, going to the ground is the LAST thing you want to do. Just like in Karate sparring fights there are rules in the UFC/Pride/K-1 etc, that are there to make the fight have more flow and protect the fighters. Things like Judo, Aikido, and Karate, etc aren't really traditional at all. They, as systems, have only been around since the last 60 or 70 years, or so. The real 'traditional' or koryu arts have existed for centuries and there are no rules hindering what the practitioners of these arts can do.

The traditional vs modern argument tries to lump a person into one spot or the other, when, in reality, most people fall somewhere in between.
 
Why would going to the ground be the last thing you'd want to do?

If I were a good grappler, I'd rather bring a striker to the floor rather than get knocked the F' out.
 
you're assuming that this is a fair fight where all things are equal. In reality, if someone is attacking you, chances are he has something which tips the odds considerably in his favour, such as a weapon or friends. If you are busy grappling the guy on the ground, your head is at the perfect height to receive numerous kicks, etc.

Also, what if you are in a place where even the ground is a hazard to you? Broken glass, needles?
 
I agree with the you that keeping the fight standing is the best idea in a street fight especially if its against more than one person. But most practitioners of martial arts have no clue about grappling or takedown defence. And a large percentage of the guys who have no takedown defence don't do much if any "live training". the reality is most fights end up on the ground one way or another. you do not have good takedown defence unless you "live train" in grappling.

But then just to contradict myself a buddy of mine whos pretty good grappler fought 2 guys at once and he armbarred one of the guys and ko'ed the other one. so even ground submitions can work well in a street fight if your timing is good and your fast.

I prefer striking to grappling myself because i've got years more experience with my kicks and punches.
 
Omnis
Why would going to the ground be the last thing you'd want to do?

If I were a good grappler, I'd rather bring a striker to the floor rather than get knocked the F' out.
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The problem is that in the streets strikers don't come alone. If you grapple one of the strikes, his striker friend will kick you in the head because you only have two arms and two legs to hold onto someone. This was the example given in the video, but it counts for fights in general. If you're on your own against 2 or more others you have a serious disadvantage which martial arts can't help you out of either.


In a real fight against 2 people you should try to punch the first one knock out with the first punch, otherwise there's no point in trying to fight back.


*edit*


Oops, I just realize I restated what was already said, I just read that post and started to enthusiasticly hammer away at the keyboard. :D
 
the video is talking about how the training of alot of martial arts could actually be counterproductive in a fight. i mean there are tons of blocks i learned in tkd that are not needed. same with alot of other karate styles so we spend all this time learning specific strikes and blocks when things could be so much more simpler and effective. so when a guy with tons of training gets in a street fight and he's trained years and years in something like tkd or shotokan or goju/wadu it could work against you depending on how you train.

if any of you guys have been in a street fight you'll know what i mean :P.
 
Yeah that's right, while doing kata's even my karate teacher says that he would never use certain blocks or open hand techniques during matches, but we have to learn them anyway because it is part of the sports.


I haven't had street fights ever since elementary school, so I haven't been able to experience much of that. :D I don't go around picking fights too much...


Btw gabkicks clear out your private messages, I tried sending you a link which might interest you.
 
smellysocks12
If you're on your own against 2 or more others you have a serious disadvantage which martial arts can't help you out of either.

In a real fight against 2 people you should try to punch the first one knock out with the first punch, otherwise there's no point in trying to fight back.
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Absolute nonsense! If you have good martial arts training, you would have knowledge and skill in the areas of distance and timing. Distance and timing are what set up everything else. If you don't feel your art gives you the ability to fight against more than one person you need to look at how you train or look into another art.

Also, the reason most fights go to the ground is because people end up unbalanced due to their lack of good distance and timing.
 

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