Massive explosions in Tianjin, China

[MatskiMonk]

What is a man-down-pub?

A person standing/sitting near you in a bar/pub, that maybe a loose acquaintence or stranger whose opinion you either actively or passively recieve depending on whether or not you decide to engage them in conversation, or are simply within earshot.

Around these parts, many such opinions start "I'm not racist, but..." Though this does depend on the quality of the establishment you drink in.

#publife #drinkgalone

 

[Vegard]

Man-down-pub was implying this could be the case.

It doesn't really make much sense though if the official story is that it was an accident.

I very much doubt that the Chinese government would orchestrate a false flag terror attack, only to cover it up as an accident.

 

[Robin]

...One of the most chilling photo I've seen in a long while:

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Wow, just wow.

I was referring to the colourful objects in the bottom left of the image - despite being the same distance away as those in the centre and far right, and closer than whatever the colourful patch is along the bottom of the image to the right, they seem to be largely intact.

Well it seems there's your answer, the stuff immediately top right of the crater shielded the blast thus making the fireball radius smaller on that side which is why the cars further top right appear to have survived.

 

[Leadfoot530]

Holy mother of God...wow.

I heard about this the other day, but I'm just now seeing videos of it. Absolutly terrifying. Simply no words to describe it; just wow.

Definatly keeping updated on this.

 

[Famine]

Man-down-pub was implying this could be the case. On this occasion man-down-pub didn't start the conversation with "I'm not racist, but...", and actually he seemed quite knowledgeable about calcium carbide and such. Like I say, I'm not sure I'm buying it, but in the context of Chinese government being somewhat oppressive towards Islam in certain areas it seemed like a reasonable suggestion. I'm not sure the public would be told about it, even if it was the case.

I'm surprised he didn't suggest that the warehouses in question held the remaining parts of MH370...

 

[MatskiMonk]

I'm surprised he didn't suggest that the warehouses in question held the remaining parts of MH370...

Now I'm wishing I'd contributed that to the discussion at the time!

 

[homeforsummer]

the stuff immediately top right of the crater

You could well be right.

And looking at the site, that pile of "stuff" used to be a building!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

The remaining crater

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Wow, just wow.



Well it seems there's your answer, the stuff immediately top right of the crater shielded the blast thus making the fireball radius smaller on that side which is why the cars further top right appear to have survived.

WOW! The steel shipping storage containers were destroyed and thrown like pieces of paper. Just insane to comprehend!

 

[CodeRedR51]

The part I am interested in is the large cracks in the ground to the left and right of the crater, where it appears the ground was lifted up and then caved back in from the blast. Similar to sink holes seen from under ground nuclear testing in Nevada.

 

[Keef]

So have they said what was in the warehouse yet? It must have been a whole lot of volatile stuff. Even ammo stores which are purposely blown up don't explode all at once like that. That was one helluva reaction for a whole lot of things to blow instantaneously.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

So have they said what was in the warehouse yet? It must have been a whole lot of volatile stuff. Even ammo stores which are purposely blown up don't explode all at once like that. That was one helluva reaction for a whole lot of things to blow instantaneously.

Between numerous reports and this link it appears to have been multiple fluids, fuel, gas, and other toxic chemicals being stored. Reminds me of leaving a variety of liquid materials in a can, over time they continue to expand until they explode. Not sure if something triggered "Ignited" the explosion. Or the excessive build up of pressure caused the explosion. Possibly both. Even a pop can left out over years can have a similar effect.


The "cyanide material" was sodium cyanide, a highly toxic substance used to extract precious metals in the mining industry, among other uses.

"Sodium cyanide is a very toxic chemical. It would take about a quarter of teaspoon to kill you. Another problem with sodium cyanide is that it can change into prussic acid, which is even more deadly. So the whole business is trying to clean up this mess is difficult," chemical risk consultant David Leggett told CNN.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Larger picture...

Wow, just wow.



Well it seems there's your answer, the stuff immediately top right of the crater shielded the blast thus making the fireball radius smaller on that side which is why the cars further top right appear to have survived.

21 tons TNT equivalent my ass.

 

[Swagger897]

I'm surprised he didn't suggest that the warehouses in question held the remaining parts of MH370...

I was waiting for this.... now there's no evidence..

 

[JKgo]

...Since we are in a GT related site, I'll put this link here. It's bit old, but interesting enough methinks.

At least 8000 vehicles destroyed.

 

[Robin]

21 tons TNT equivalent my ass.

It looks like a flipping meteor strike!

 

[MatskiMonk]

So have they said what was in the warehouse yet? It must have been a whole lot of volatile stuff. Even ammo stores which are purposely blown up don't explode all at once like that. That was one helluva reaction for a whole lot of things to blow instantaneously.

Calcium Carbide...

+ water from the firefighters

= Acetylene

Acetylene likes to explode.

That's what I read anyway.

 

[Swagger897]

Calcium Carbide...

+ water from the firefighters

= Acetylene

Acetylene likes to explode.

That's what I read anyway.

Yup... Calcium carbide use to be used in old miners lamps. You'd have a bunch of rocks in a capsule below the water, where it would drip. The water dripping would create the gas, and you would light it out the end.

 

[Dennisch]

21 tons TNT equivalent my ass.

Indeed. I think that estimate was a bit low. It's probably closer to 50.

 

[Swagger897]

Indeed. I think that estimate was a bit low. It's probably closer to 50.

I dunno... There's not quite a defined pressure wave in any of the videos like there is there.

But it was night, and these are only cell-phones..

 

[Dennisch]

I dunno... There's not quite a defined pressure wave in any of the videos like there is there.

But it was night, and these are only cell-phones..

Say what now?

 

[Swagger897]

This first one provides the best view of any visible pressure wave:


Here (an obvious different scenario) you can see it defined as it expands:



The Tianjin explosion appears that the second, and largest explosion, wasn't really all at once. That probably has some disruptive forces in it to cause it not to be uniform. The factor of it being night may also be a cause, but I'm not banking on that too much..

And the sudden change in exposure from extreme dark to brightness probably makes the chances of it being recorded un-feasible.

 

[DCP]

Is there any estimates of the cost of the damages? That is a massive explosion.

 

[Swagger897]

Is there any estimates of the cost of the damages? That is a massive explosion.

Well if China doesn't keep adjusting the value of their own currency, we'll soon find out I'm sure..

 

[DCP]

I read between $1 to $1.5 billion. Counting the losses for our own mistakes. Very sad.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Counting the losses for our own mistakes.

Whose mistakes?

 

[DCP]

Mankind

 

[TenEightyOne]

Whose mistakes?

Mankind

Would you care to elaborate at all? Would you agree that simply writing off all disaster investigations as "The Fault of Humans For Existing" might be a bit pointless?

 

[DCP]

Sorry bud. I don't know what you getting at.
Man is always responsible for disasters he causes. Can they blame someone else?

 

[Famine]

I read between $1 to $1.5 billion. Counting the losses for our own mistakes. Very sad.

Also some people died.

 

[DCP]

Yep, always sad. 150000 die a day on average. I guess we all have to make mistakes and die as well.