May DLC Discussion Thread

[Igano]

Even though I'm still alittle uncomfortable with cars returning back from previous games as DLC, I like the fact that you don't need in-game credits to buy them anymore. And due to that, I accept them. And another, especially in particular, is free additional tracks. 👍

I very feel thankful, that T10 were well organized with their DLC, unlike a certain developer that said 'free DLC tracks every month', only to lie in the end.

T10 never promised free track dlcs though

 

[drivatar]

T10 never promised free track dlcs though

Because it wasn't their original plan.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Even though it wasn't T10 plan, it was a great surprise to many. They should continue with that.

 

[Akira AC]

They seem to designed with the same focus of the BF games, xp gain wise.

That said, charging for booster packs goes over the line IMO. I'm biased against DLC models at this point, which are optional but when the mess with the vanilla design of the game that becomes a complete different issue.

Micro-transactions were already atrocious in GT6 and this seems to be worse, a hundred bucks for booster packs and people not loosing their 🤬.

Yeah, applause for those who also make atrocious monetization models and get away with it, as it the seasonal pass concept wasn't bad enough.

 

[VXR]

That's because they never implemented micro transactions that way, apart from the boosts.

 

[UkHardcore23]

That's because they never implemented micro transactions that way, apart from the boosts.

That's wrong, These were the prices when the game released....T10 giving us the hardcore gamers bargains all the time! They are just to kind to us...$139.95 for virtual tokens. Amazing!

The prices for the cars were also through the bloody roof also meaning that those that wanted to buy cars instead of earning them were paying insane amounts of money right up until the severe backlash that T10 received. They were forced to change the full economy of the game.

 

[VXR]

Not the car packs and expansion pack nonsense, that didn't happen did it?

 

[BoneSawTX]

Not the car packs and expansion pack nonsense, that didn't happen did it?

nope

 

[UkHardcore23]

Not the car packs and expansion pack nonsense, that didn't happen did it?

Nah that got dropped.

 

[ImaRobot]

That's wrong, These were the prices when the game released....T10 giving us the hardcore gamers bargains all the time! They are just to kind to us...$139.95 for virtual tokens. Amazing!

The prices for the cars were also through the bloody roof also meaning that those that wanted to buy cars instead of earning them were paying insane amounts of money right up until the severe backlash that T10 received. They were forced to change the full economy of the game.

So what Im gathering is that your trying to make a point that they are ripping off customers by using an example that has long since been changed? Also, since then, giving away the MOST EXPENSIVE cars in the game that people where using those said tokens on?

Thats business. You make a decision, if it turns out good then awesome, if it doesnt then you fix it.

I dont get why people look back at change, and get upset.

 

[UkHardcore23]

So what Im gathering is that your trying to make a point that they are ripping off customers by using an example that has long since been changed? Also, since then, giving away the MOST EXPENSIVE, cars in the game, that people where using those said tokens on?

Thats business, you make a decision, if it turns out good then awesome, if it doesnt, you fix it.

I dont get why people look back at change, and get upset.

No one is upset they changed it but it's still a little raw how much they tried to rip us off from the start. I personally think they went a little to far on how much it changed it went to one extreme to the other. Right now i have 17 million in the bank with not alot left to spend it on.

I have no idea the price of cars for people that spend real money on them so cant comment further on that. Anything over £3 a virtual car is surly too much? Maybe someone here knows the prices?

 

[FosterG]

It does make you wonder what T10 has up their sleeve (if anything) as your credits are going to sit if you have all the cars and new dlc adds them to your garage (I do like that). Will we be spending credits for tracks eventually? I guess time will tell.

 

[Igano]

Maybe they just feared an incoming :censored:storm equivalent to what Microsoft got at E3 and they backed away from the plan altogether?

 

[BoneSawTX]

It does make you wonder what T10 has up their sleeve (if anything) as your credits are going to sit if you have all the cars and new dlc adds them to your garage (I do like that). Will we be spending credits for tracks eventually? I guess time will tell.

Nothing is up their sleeve. This is what happens when you cut the price in half for high dollar cars, give away the first DLC car free and leave the payouts the same.

 

[McLaren]

So what Im gathering is that your trying to make a point that they are ripping off customers by using an example that has long since been changed? Also, since then, giving away the MOST EXPENSIVE, cars in the game, that people where using those said tokens on?

Thats business, you make a decision, if it turns out good then awesome, if it doesnt, you fix it.

I dont get why people look back at change, and get upset.

It's obvious. His argument already fell apart on the current pricing, so he's grasping at a straws to keep trying to prove T10 rips people off.

But it's like you said. There's no point in bringing this up if they changed it due to people like him complaining. He won't be happy til it's free.

 

[UkHardcore23]

It does make you wonder what T10 has up their sleeve (if anything) as your credits are going to sit if you have all the cars and new dlc adds them to your garage (I do like that). Will we be spending credits for tracks eventually? I guess time will tell.

No chance, They need to keep tracks free to keep online working/alive meaning more chance of people paying for DLC.

It's obvious. His argument already fell apart on the current pricing, so he's grasping at a straws to keep trying to prove T10 rips people off.

But it's like you said. There's no point in bringing this up if they changed it due to people like him complaining. He won't be happy til it's free.

Nothing in life is free, I live in a world were i dont like to be ripped off. You carry on though....everyone is different especially when your blinded by brand loyalty.

 

[ImaRobot]

Brand loyalty? That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. He does not like everything about FM I know that, and that goes with me too. You have not made a valid argue able point yet but you jump and say something as ignorant as that.

I don't like the DLC policy, but still I'm arguing a point because the "facts" you seem to pull out of your ass are far from what you claim to be facts. For myself, I'm not arguing because I agree with what is being released, but because you are so far from right that its ridiculous.


Also an off topic question. Who is your Internet provider?

 

[Terronium-12]

Let's not forget one of the contributing reasons track DLC has been free: when it was offered in FM2 and 3 with a price it didn't sell very well in comparison to the car packs, and they've learned their lesson from that.

 

[UkHardcore23]

It's obvious. His argument already fell apart on the current pricing, so he's grasping at a straws to keep trying to prove T10 rips people off.

But it's like you said. There's no point in bringing this up if they changed it due to people like him complaining. He won't be happy til it's free.

Brand loyalty? That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. He does not like everything about FM I know that, a

nd that goes with me too. You have not made a valid argue able point yet but you jump and say something as ignorant as that.

I don't like the DLC policy, but still I'm arguing a point because the "facts" you seem to pull out of your ass are far from what you claim to be facts. For myself, I'm not arguing because I agree with what is being released, but because you are so far from right that its ridiculous.


Also an off topic question. Who is your Internet provider?

Really...Any view about T10 or Forza 5 not being great he's first to jump on it. It's like he has some sort of Forza 5 radar...Bad word about it he knows where it is and jumps on it.

Im glad you dont like the DLC policy also...it stinks.

My internet provider is BT, 60-70mb down-20mb upload - Why you ask?

 

[McLaren]

Nothing in life is free, I live in a world were i dont like to be ripped off. You carry on though....everyone is different especially when your blinded by brand loyalty.

Don't confuse calling out your posts as brand loyalty. If it looks like 🤬, sounds like 🤬, & smells like 🤬, then that's what I'm going to call it.

And your argument for the last 5 pages has been exactly that. A steaming pile of nonsense you fail repeatedly to argue & are trying to resort to fanboy name calling to sidestep it. Again, in your words,

...getting desperate.

 

[Imari]

In FM3 you got 10 new cars for 400 Microsoft Points.
In FM5 you get 10 cars, most of them returning from previous games, for the equivalent of 800 Microsoft Points. However, the quality of the cars is higher.

I was more referring to it in the light of current trends in DLC and paid features in games in general. Everyone has long ago figured out that the whales are where the majority of your money comes from, and they're relatively price insensitive.

I can see how people might be miffed comparing to FM3 prices, but times they are a changing. My grandma would tell me when she could buy groceries to feed a family of four, tickets to the Sunday matinee and still have money left over to buy drinks at the local dance hall from sixpence. It doesn't mean that stuff today is overpriced, because it's all relative.

 

[ImaRobot]

He pushes buttons I know that, but from what I notice its against post that are so far off the deep end that they deserve it. That goes for any topic in any thread, not just Forza.

As for Internet providers, it was a question aimed at something that could be easily argueable of company's ripping off consumers on a daily basis. I was just wondering if your like that with all aspects of life.

 

[UkHardcore23]

He pushes buttons I know that, but from what I notice its against post that are so far off the deep end that they deserve it. That goes for any topic in any thread, not just Forza.

As for Internet providers, it was a question aimed at something that could be easily argueable of company's ripping off consumers on a daily basis. I was just wondering if your like that with all aspects of life.

I only know him from Forza threads and he tries to back up T10 to the hilt.

I have a great internet provider, Only £33 monthly for unlimited - 60-70mb down/20mb up. I understand though that in the US you's get shafted big time...T10 is not in charge over there are they?

I was more referring to it in the light of current trends in DLC and paid features in games in general. Everyone has long ago figured out that the whales are where the majority of your money comes from, and they're relatively price insensitive.

I can see how people might be miffed comparing to FM3 prices, but times they are a changing. My grandma would tell me when she could buy groceries to feed a family of four, tickets to the Sunday matinee and still have money left over to buy drinks at the local dance hall from sixpence. It doesn't mean that stuff today is overpriced, because it's all relative.

The big problem is when you want a single car and they are charging £8 for you to get it...Thats insane for a virtual car. If it keeps going along this road old school gamers like myself will soon get fed up and leave gaming and they'l be stuck with the new age f2p people....

Maybe that's what they want when you see the sales compared to games like Forza.

 

[Terronium-12]

Quick question: Did you just imply that a single car costs more than the entire pack of 10?

If I'm missing something, please tell me, otherwise that's just daft and utterly false.

 

[UkHardcore23]

I was more referring to it in the light of current trends in DLC and paid features in games in general. Everyone has long ago figured out that the whales are where the majority of your money comes from, and they're relatively price insensitive.

I can see how people might be miffed comparing to FM3 prices, but times they are a changing. My grandma would tell me when she could buy groceries to feed a family of four, tickets to the Sunday matinee and still have money left over to buy drinks at the local dance hall from sixpence. It doesn't mean that stuff today is overpriced, because it's all relative.

Quick question: Did you just imply that a single car costs more than the entire pack of 10?

If I'm missing something, please tell me, otherwise that's just daft and utterly false.

If you only want the M3 Racing you need to buy the full pack...They make sure that you need to buy the full pack for the best car in the pack... the rest of the fillers in the pack you can buy single .

So if you only want the new Aston or The Dart it costs £2.39 but if you only want the new M3 Racing it costs £8 which is the entire cost of the pack.

 

[McLaren]

Look at that brilliant logic. If you want the M3, it costs you $10, completely ignoring the fact you get 9 other cars with it, so in reality, it only costs you $1.

Genius at work.

I only know him from Forza threads and he tries to back up T10 to the hilt.

What would you call what you do in this forum, then since you do the exact opposite? Every post you make is a bitch fit about T10.

 

[Terronium-12]

If you only want the M3 Racing you need to buy the full pack...They make sure that you need to buy the full pack for the best car in the pack... the rest of the fillers in the pack you can buy single.

Which has been in practice since Forza Motorsport 3. The packs were far better then, but that's neither here nor there.

So if you only want the new Aston or The Dart it costs £2.39 but if you only want the new M3 Racing it costs £8 which is the entire cost of the pack.

Fallacy.

 

[UkHardcore23]

Look at that brilliant logic. If you want the M3, it costs you $10, completely ignoring the fact you get 9 other cars with it, so in reality, it only costs you $1.

Genius at work.

What would you call what you do in this forum, then since you do the exact opposite? Every post you make is a bitch fit about T10.

The only really stand out car is the M3 DTM car which is why T10 FORCE you to buy the full pack if you want to race it.

Paying £8 for a virtual car is scandalous...no matter how many times you tell people that have no interest in the other 9 cars it's still the same price....Those that only want the Aston in the pack though...£2.39...WTF.

Terronium - You say the packs were far better in F3...Lets face it they couldnt exactly get any worse than they are in 5. Lets hope it picks up now that the season pass is over for the suckers that purchased it.

 

[McLaren]

The only really stand out car is the M3 DTM car which is why T10 FORCE you to buy the full pack if you want to race it.

Paying £8 for a virtual car is scandalous.

Except you're not paying that for a virtual car. You're paying that for 10. What about this is eludes you?

 

[UkHardcore23]

Except you're not paying that for a virtual car. You're paying that for 10. What about this is eludes you?

Not if you only use 1. Is it so hard to understand that alot of people only like the DTM car in this pack and have ZERO interest in the other cars?

Why is it the new Aston costs £2.39 or the Dart £2.39 but the car most people want costs £8? That's a 6th of what the FULL GAME costs lol...I'l tell you why...T10 are at it! Watch the car packs vastly improve now the suckers that bought the season pass have to pay full dollar for packs...Although they will most likely still charge £8 for the best car compared to £2.39 for one that will have little interest to most people.