Mazda CX/MX range discussion

[05XR8]

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That angle makes the overhang long.

this one makes it look short.

MAZDA previewed its next-generation CX-5 in a darkened side-on teaser image overnight, ahead of the redesigned mid-size SUV’s reveal at the Los Angeles Auto Show on November 16.

The shadowy photo reveals the new CX-5 will have a sleeker shape than its more upright predecessor, with a shark-nose style front-end, long bonnet and more steeply raked windscreen.

Slimline headlights and tail-lights echo those of the larger CX-9 and a thick chrome strip beneath the side windows and up the C-pillar, with another along the side skirts, indicate an upmarket shift is on the way.

In a brief statement accompanying the image, Mazda described the new style as “taking the ‘Kodo – Soul of Motion’ design concept to a new level”.

“The company has honed the car’s beauty, imparting a powerful combination of sophistication and strength,” it said.

More CX-5 details will be revealed closer to the LA show unveiling, but Mazda has previously hinted that developments from the larger CX-9 seven-seat SUV will be carried over, including the thicker floorpan and possibly the 2.5-litre turbo-petrol engine.

The thicker floorpan, along with weight-saving measures that enabled Mazda engineers to install additional sound deadening to the CX-9, were designed to address media and customer criticism leveled at the CX-5 for its noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) levels.

As such, it is a given that NVH was a key improvement target for the new CX-5.

The new crossover is likely to include Mazda’s sophisticated G-Vectoring system, designed to improve a range of stability and handling traits, which was recently introduced on the updated Mazda3 small car and Mazda6 mid-sizer.

Also expected to find home under the new CX-5 bonnet is the delayed SkyActiv II diesel engine, originally pegged for a 2014 launch but held back for extra development to ensure it could meet both emissions standards and drivability expectations.

No groundbreaking transmission technology appears to be on the horizon, as the CX-9 continues with a six-speed auto and Mazda has poured cold water on the idea of moving into dual-clutch or nine- and 10-speed transmissions adopted by some manufacturers.

By the time the new CX-5 hits Australian showrooms it will have been on the market just five years, having launched here in February 2012 following its reveal at the 2011 Frankfurt show in production form, faithful to the Minagi concept shown at Geneva in March of the same year.

A mid-life facelift arrived in Australia early last year following an LA show reveal the previous November.

This month entry-level Maxx and mid-range Maxx Sport variants received upgraded standard active safety gear, including blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert and forward smart city braking, while higher spec GT variants gained smart city braking for reversing as well.

Despite the arrival of critically acclaimed rivals including the Hyundai Tucson and second-generation Volkswagen Tiguan, the CX-5 has maintained its sales superiority.

To the end of September Mazda had sold 19,090 CX-5s, up 0.4 per cent on the same period last year to take a commanding 18.2 per cent segment share compared with 14,969 Tucsons (14.3 per cent share) and 14,936 Toyota RAV4s (14.2 per cent share).

Mazda will also debut a prototype racecar at the LA show alongside the new CX-5. Also on display will be the current Mazda3, Mazda6, CX-3 and CX-9. It will also showcase its 2.0-litre and 2.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engines plus the 2.5-litre turbo-petrol.

 

[CodeRedR51]

 

[05XR8]

They'll sell even more now.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Interior shot:

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[Eunos_Cosmo]

Huge improvement outside. Minor improvement inside.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I'm curious to know if they have added anything for quietness.

 

[05XR8]

I'm curious to know if they have added anything for quietness.

Mazda says that improvements to noise, vibration and harshness levels have ensured that the new model achieves a 10 per cent clearer conversation level in the cabin when compared with the outgoing version.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/493FD504D8A42B2ACA25806C001A6738
I was going to quote the article, but nobody is going to read that wall of information.

 

[05XR8]

Shame the 2.5T is not on the cards...
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/EFE41DC4A6BF2910CA25806F0005857B

Despite speculation, Mr Benders said that the CX-5 is unlikely to ever receive the 2.5-litre turbocharged powerplant seen under the bonnet of the CX-9, despite Mazda Australia asking for it.

“There is no plan for that,” he said. “We know the engine is just a small variation of the one in the CX-9, so (in) feasibility (terms) yes. We’ve put up our hand and said ‘why not’. It’s not on the cards.”

 

[CodeRedR51]

According to this video (at the very end), they could possibly offer the CX-5 2.5L with a manual transmission.

 

[05XR8]

Maybe for the USA? Dunno.
Australia is a huge market for the brand. It says something that Mazda Australia would want that engine. People would wholeheartedly stand in line for that model.

 

[RocZX]

The only problem with getting the CX5 with a manual is you can't get it with with AWD and the one of the main reasons for getting crossover/SUV is awd.

 

[Turbo]

and the one of the main reasons for getting crossover/SUV is awd.

Well in today's day and age, the main reason why most people get crossovers/SUVs is because they're having children. But you're right, not having the ability to get both manual and AWD is silly. Dumb move on Mazda's part.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Well in today's day and age, the main reason why most people get crossovers/SUVs is because they're having children. But you're right, not having the ability to get both manual and AWD is silly. Dumb move on Mazda's part.

It's all about development $$$ versus how many they would sell, because let's face it, they wouldn't sell a ton of them. A manual with the 2.5 and FWD is cheap to do because it's already offered in the 3. Adding AWD to that requires more parts development and testing and is not cheap.

 

[CodeRedR51]

 

[homeforsummer]

That looks pretty neat.

Mazda is definitely on a roll with its CX models now. They all look great, they all (the ones I've driven) drive great, the Skyactiv engines are incredibly economical, the interiors feel high-quality and they're pretty good value, at least in the UK.

 

[Bram Turismo]

Not only the CX model range. I genuinely think Mazda is the only manufacturer to produce not a single bad looking car. Their interiors are some of the best looking amongst any, and I love the fact that you get almost any gadgetry as standard.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Not only the CX model range. I genuinely think Mazda is the only manufacturer to produce not a single bad looking car. Their interiors are some of the best looking amongst any, and I love the fact that you get almost any gadgetry as standard.

Sadly, not enough people agree with you. They really should be selling more cars.

 

[CodeRedR51]

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/12/mazda-cx-3-and-cx-5-bringing-sporty.html

 

[Keef]

The new Mazda CX-5 has been getting some pretty awesome reviews, just like the CX-9 which has already won some comparison tests. Mazda's upscale interior strategy is really paying off, with testers comparing the atmosphere to Porsche, at least relative to what Toyota and Honda offers.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/13/2017-mazda-cx-5-first-drive-review/

Mazda is making some really pretty, nice, and fun cars these days. I want a 3 hatch as my first new car. I would compare it to the Chevy Cruze diesel, VW Golf and Hyundai Elantra Sport. But to be honest, the VW isn't really in the discussion for me because it's by far the most boring car here. The Cruze's diesel is really enticing, the Elantra's potential for modification sounds awesome, and obviously the Mazda is just a great car all around.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The refinement and detailing of the design of the new CX-5 is way above anything near it's price point. Look at the headlight-hood-front fascia coordination. These Mazda designers are damn good.

 

[Blitz24]

Have to imagine the mid-cycle redesign for the CX-3 will try to mimic the bigger siblings.

 

[Taegon Lewis]

The horror... THE HORROR!

 

[Grandea GTR]

The horror... THE HORROR!

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Not seeing anything wrong with it.

 

[Taegon Lewis]

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Not seeing anything wrong with it.

It's the mesh grill, and squinty headlights that bother me. I loved the previous styling, before the new (current) styling.

 

[Keef]

I think the new one looks more sporty and upscale. The previous one is nice and clean but looks a bit less, I don't know, adulty.

 

[Dotini]

I test drove a 2017 Mazda CX-3 the other day. It handled exactly like a 2017 Yaris iA, except for more power, AWD and was not far from twice the price. Both are built on the Mazda 2 platform.

 

[daan]

Off topic posts deleted. Now if we can go back to discussing the real life Mazdas that'd be grand.

 

[CodeRedR51]

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/04/mazda-cx-8-to-join-suv-family-in-japan.html

 

[RocZX]

First official image of the CX-8

 

[05XR8]

CX-8 confirmed for Oz

However, Doak indicated that the opportunity to finally offer a large seven-seat diesel SUV to rival models like the Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorento, Skoda Kodiaq and Volkswagen’s upcoming Tiguan Allspace could be irresistible for Mazda Australia.

“Diesel by itself makes it more expensive, so it certainly wouldn’t be a cheap seven-seat SUV – it wouldn’t play that role for us – but at the same time it will be a full seven-seat SUV and not a 5+2 like some of the new players in the segment, so that gives it an advantage.”

Riding on an identical 2930mm wheelbase as the CX-9, the CX-8 is 175mm shorter at 4900mm, as well as 17mm lower (1730mm) and 129mm narrower at 1840mm – the same width as the CX-5 – making it more of a long-wheelbase, seven-seat CX-5 than a shrunken CX-9.

The CX-8 comes with 239 litres of boot space with the rear seats in place, or 572L when stowed – 238L less than the larger CX-9.