McLaren 650S - 625C - 675LT- 675LT Spider

[Minty]

I just think McLaren isn't that concerned with exclusivity. If they're making cars and people are buying them(which I absolutely would, given the means), then they're happy. Ferrari maintains its exclusivity by building gimmicky theme-parks to fund themselves, and I like to think McLaren would rather not be forced into gimmicks just so their cars are more "special".

Personally, when McLaren started shelling out model after model, I got pretty excited. The idea of a supercar company that wasn't worried about keeping numbers small and prices high is something rare and something I'm happy to see. Partly because having proper supercars in the used market means prices will become attainable to a much larger group of enthusiasts, rather than being eventually confined to the garage of incredibly wealthy collectors for all but a few hours a week, if that.

 

[McLaren]

@Last Daimyo Yes, but it is ruining the after market prices for these cars. It's already happening & that is one of the main reasons people are reluctant to buy McFlurries. But all the high flying celebrities gobble them up like no tomorrow.

Not really....
12C's have bottomed at $160,000 in the US, but a strong majority are still $180,000+. 2014 models are $200,000+. The car was $230,000 brand new so it's not that bad of a hit.

The 650S is $240,000 on the low end of used market; MSRP started at $265,500. And 570/675 are retailing on the used market over sticker. So, it's far too early to claim McLaren is ruining their used market. These special editions if anything, still ask crazy money because of their exclusivity.

 

[RocZX]

McLaren makes a special edition of the 675LT spider called MSO Carbon Series LT.
Only 25 will be made and all are sold already. It's a 675LT spider with carbon fiber body panels with a gloss finish.

 

[AlvaroF]

They just don't know when to stop. The other car that had 3000 different versions was the Zonda. McLaren has gone full on Pagani, milking every single inch of every single bit of the car.

 

[Cale]

They sold every one and the used market isn't tanking. I don't see a problem. Don't like it don't buy one

 

[Minty]

Can someone explain in an objective way why having so many special editions is a bad thing? Why is driving the used supercar market prices down a bad thing for anyone? The people who want exclusive supercars will buy exclusive supercars. The people who want a supercar because it's a supercar, and not to become a member of a very elite club of owners, can buy a McLaren. At this point they're distancing themselves from exclusivity to a point that they're probably not going to have any effect on the used market outside of their own brand.

 

[McLaren]

The 675LT production has been sold out since 2015 & used examples are selling over retail. This is McLaren being able to cater to a last-minute crowd who are more than happy to dish out the extra dough if it means getting something more exclusive than what they missed out on. Chances are high the 675LT Spiders are probably nearly all spoken for as well, meaning there's likely going to only be 1,050 examples to be had (Coupe/Spider & the last 2 editions posted about) of the 675LT line so exclusivity is not really an issue for this model right now.

 

[MisterWaffles]

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/mclaren-650s-successor-rumored-to-arrive-in-2017-ar173469.html

Rumours that McLaren is finally getting rid of the 650s soon. I say that's a good thing, because its pretty much just a 12c with some aero and a more powerful engine. An all-new car is even better.

 

[Cale]

Why is driving the used supercar market prices down a bad thing for anyone?

Being able to control the used market prices and guarantee that customers won't lose money when buying your product brings in customers, and keeps those customers coming back. Brand loyalty is huge for manufacturers building only a few thousand cars a year.

 

[Stotty]

McLaren are quickly turning themselves in to a facsimile of Peugeot in the 1990's... they'll be doing a Roland Garros edition 650 next.

 

[Wiegert]

McLaren are quickly turning themselves in to a facsimile of Peugeot in the 1990's... they'll be doing a Roland Garros edition 650 next.

Expect news of a Rio SE coming this summer. With the UK getting Ascot, Kensington and Knightsbridge editions before the end of the year.

 

[Robin]

McLaren are quickly turning themselves in to a facsimile of Peugeot in the 1990's... they'll be doing a Roland Garros edition 650 next.

McLaren 650 Zest.

 

[VXR]

You laugh, but I'd covet a 675 Rallye so hard. 19" white steelies!

 

[GranTurismo guy]

At least all these different versions are pretty great. It's not like there's no effort to it.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Didn't realise 675LT and 675LT Spider are so limited in numbers, McLaren should have sold them for more. My brother's mate is getting a 675LT Spider, already has the 650S. Seems a great car to buy if you have the finances to do so and get opportunity to buy it.

 

[Stotty]

Didn't realise 675LT and 675LT Spider are so limited in numbers, McLaren should have sold them for more. My brother's mate is getting a 675LT Spider, already has the 650S. Seems a great car to buy if you have the finances to do so and get opportunity to buy it.

Instant £100k profit if non-Spider prices are anything to go by.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Instant £100k profit if non-Spider prices are anything to go by.

Think he plans to drive it for a bit and then will cash in on it. Probably some other limited run car will come out too to make money on and have fun with. Rinse and repeat, taking scalping to the big time. The rich get richer. Remember Rowan Atkinson made a lot of money on his McLaren F1 which he had couple of crashes in.

Surprised that some limited run production cars don't get sold out quicker really given there are a lot of rich people who are interested in cars. Chris Evans must have felt quite lucky that someone cancelled their 675LT order. There are a lot worse things you can spend your money on than appreciating cars.

 

[Cale]

There will always be some available due to people trying to make money off them and the fact that all dealerships will give themselves right of first refusal in the contract with the buyer

 

[McLaren]

There will always be some available due to people trying to make money off them and the fact that all dealerships will give themselves right of first refusal in the contract with the buyer

That's because the dealerships want to cash in when the used market is asking over retail. That's their only way to get in on the used market.

It used to be worse a few years ago when it was the dealerships scalping the consumers, finding ways to get limited production exotics in with "client orders" and then asking way over sticker bc someone "backed out" to make a fat profit ALONG with the right of first refusal. Don't see it much anymore when Ferrari took charge and would blacklist any dealers they caught. Now manufacturers just blacklist the owners for looking for that quick buck.

 

[Cale]

That's because the dealerships want to cash in when the used market is asking over retail. That's their only way to get in on the used market.

It used to be worse a few years ago when it was the dealerships scalping the consumers, finding ways to get limited production exotics in with "client orders" and then asking way over sticker bc someone "backed out" to make a fat profit ALONG with the right of first refusal. Don't see it much anymore when Ferrari took charge and would blacklist any dealers they caught. Now manufacturers just blacklist the owners for looking for that quick buck.

Yeah it is nice to see these "loyalty" programs from manufacturers making sure owners are having to keep their cars for a certain amount of time. However it's not a good long term fix as there's still just as many buyers who can afford to sit on a car for a year plus in order to cash in on the 2nd hand market.

 

[RocZX]

Leaked images of 688HP McLaren MSO HS

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I like the colour.

 

[Aphelion]

That colour is freaking awesome.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

How much longer are they going to milk the MP4-12C chassis?

 

[AudiMan2011]

How much longer are they going to milk the MP4-12C chassis?

Until around 2018 when the 650S replacement is due.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

How much longer are they going to milk the MP4-12C chassis?

Eh, it's six years old. That's hardly ancient in the supercar world. The Murcielago went for almost a decade; the Gallardo, over that. The 488 GTB still uses a slightly modified version of the 458 chassis, IIRC.

Even a class down, cars can last longer. The GT-R hits the double-digits in a year. The DB9 was in production for 13 years.

 

[Aphelion]

How much longer are they going to milk the MP4-12C chassis?

Highly efficient, good looking, successful chassis? Throw it in the garbage.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Eh, it's six years old. That's hardly ancient in the supercar world. The Murcielago went for almost a decade; the Gallardo, over that. The 488 GTB still uses a slightly modified version of the 458 chassis, IIRC.

Even a class down, cars can last longer. The GT-R hits the double-digits in a year. The DB9 was in production for 13 years.

The Murcielago had 3 versions in it's life. The basic, LP640 and the SV (not including the convertibles). Gallardo a similar life IIRC.
The MP4 chassis had the 12C, 650S, 675LT and now this in a much shorter time frame.

I do agree that the GTR should now die as with the DB9 which now has with the arrival of the DB11.

Highly efficient, good looking, successful chassis? Throw it in the garbage.

I never said it wasn't any of those things.

Until around 2018 when the 650S replacement is due.

Thank you for actually providing me an answer to my question.

 

[Aphelion]

I never said it wasn't any of those things.

I never said you did. I was only saying that it seems unreasonable to expect the company to change chassis despite the fact that the chassis is fine as is.

 

[Heldenzeit]

Looks like the aero kit from Forza.