Message to Polyphony

[Bundy]

1. Why don't you allow superchargers to protrude through the bonnet of cars & drop sill, side exhaust pipes on all cars. Eg. Covette '69 is available. I have an RT Challenger '70 I'd love to see sill pipes on it to copy the real car in the 1982 movie --Running on Empty

2. Why can't you allow clothing/helmets & Car liveries to be able to change in lobbies and GT Sport.

3. Decals jump all over the place sometimes while painting cars.

 

[cjsrt4]

How is adding superchargers through the bonnet and side exiting exhausts "trying to be flashy" any more than what you can already do to cars in GT? You're not giving any solid reasons not to include these other than "I don't like them" and "They're in Forza and I don't want them in GT". You attempted to say they didn't belong on a race track which doesn't work when GT already has several cars that don't.

Forza is completely irrelevant, quite frankly. It's purely a question of why they should not be in GT, and you've not come up with much.

EDIT: To add, if you're worried about people doing things to cars that you don't think are right, I wonder what you make of this heresy already possible in the game

That's good, but a hood supercharger and side exhausts on a muscle car would be too gaudy?

Hey look! More nitpicking!

 

[Samus]

Hey look! More nitpicking!

It's called making an argument to support your position. You should try it.

 

[cjsrt4]

Curb your gatekeeping. There's nothing wrong with looking at what the competition is doing, and borrowing/becoming inspired by them (see the entirety of the Forza franchise and its popularity). It's honestly required to a certain degree to stay relevant nowadays.

I do play Forza (playing Horizon 5 right now as a matter of fact). The Forza series is the reason why I want PD to add these aspects, because the series (both Motorsport and Horizon) has taken what made GT series great, and has expanded on those ideas over the years. Meanwhile Kaz still makes his games thinking that GT still sits in its own little bubble like it used to in the 2000s. I have a feeling that I'm not the only one, because you don't have to look very far to see people going for the "flash" with their cars in GT7, or see people making Need For Speed or street-racing style videos in the game, either.

If Kaz well and truly wants GT to represent car culture, and for the series unquestionably occupy the top spot like it used to, than he has to pay attention to what their competitors are doing, as well as what's popular in the car world currently. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

BTW, this is coming from someone who has grown up with GT since GT3, and has all the games up until GT Sport, including a the Japanese of GT1-3, and 4 Prologue.

Indeed, but that's only one facet. It and the performance customization options in GT7 are both major steps up from previous GT games, but as a package what's present still lags behind GT's competitors.

Do you know this for a fact? Are you minutely aware of how PD handles their workflow and what they assign to their employees?

I don't disagree that GT7 has a lot more pressing concerns, but there's nothing at all wrong with asking why there aren't more options for tuning and just general things to do, because things like that help extend the longevity of the game.

Everything is opinionated based off of your personal preference. If it's what you want to see in the game, cool, good for you. My opinion to the OP was "go play Forza". You already are so congrats. They already have tons of customization options in this game. I don't think they need more. That's my opinion. You saying they do. That's your opinion.

 

[cjsrt4]

It's called making an argument to support your position. You should try it.

It's called an opinion. We both have them. No matter what I say, you will come back with something else based off of your "opinion"

 

[NotThePrez]

Everything is opinionated based off of your personal preference. If it's what you want to see in the game, cool, good for you. My opinion to the OP was "go play Forza".

Which is a bad response that accomplishes nothing except for making you sound like an elitist.

It's called an opinion. We both have them. No matter what I say, you will come back with something else based off of your "opinion"

Yes, that's how debate works. Ideally you should be able to have more to back up your position besides "I don't like it."

And again, there was nothing wrong with what the OP asked, as it's a valid request for additional content later in the games lifecycle.

 

[Samus]

It's called an opinion. We both have them. No matter what I say, you will come back with something else based off of your "opinion"

You're the one trying to say they shouldn't be in the game based on things that don't hold weight against what is already in GT. So yes, I'll come back with answers if you continue using those as supposed reasons. It just reiterates that your actual opinion is "I don't like them personally so I don't think they should be in". It's not a great argument seeing as though millions of people play this game, not just you.

So why not try again, answer the OP, why don't they allow these mods do you think? Why shouldn't they, if enough people want them?

I don't like the Mk4 Supra all that much being honest, but I know millions do, so "I don't want it" wouldn't be a solid argument for keeping it out of the game if someone asked why it wasn't in the game, hypothetically speaking of course since it is in.

 

[cjsrt4]

Which is a bad response that accomplishes nothing except for making you sound like an elitist.

Yes, that's how debate works. Ideally you should be able to have more to back up your position besides "I don't like it."

And again, there was nothing wrong with what the OP asked, as it's a valid request for additional content later in the games lifecycle.

The OP literally described Forza. Telling them to go play that game is not being an elitist. I don't have to provide anything to either of you two. I'm literally just sitting here laughing at how serious you guys are taking this. Do you think I care what PD does with content updating?

 

[Samus]

The OP literally described Forza. Telling them to go play that game is not being an elitist. I don't have to provide anything to either of you two. I'm literally just sitting here laughing at how serious you guys are taking this. Do you think I care what PD does with content updating?

"Why doesn't this bakery sell this type of bread?"

"Dude, just go to another bakery"

You see how that fails to answer the question?

 

[cjsrt4]

You're the one trying to say they shouldn't be in the game based on things that don't hold weight against what is already in GT. So yes, I'll come back with answers if you continue using those as supposed reasons. It just reiterates that your actual opinion is "I don't like them personally so I don't think they should be in". It's not a great argument seeing as though millions of people play this game, not just you.

So why not try again, answer the OP, why don't they allow these mods do you think? Why shouldn't they, if enough people want them?

I don't like the Mk4 Supra all that much being honest, but I know millions do, so "I don't want it" wouldn't be a solid argument for keeping it out of the game if someone asked why it wasn't in the game, hypothetically speaking of course since it is in.

Because it's not Forza. And come on now, there's 2 of you debating me about this topic, and one of them isn't even the OP. .0001% of the community don't qualify as "enough people wanting them". I'm really sorry you don't like the MK4 Supra. It's a great car.

 

[Samus]

Because it's not Forza.

 

[cjsrt4]

"Why doesn't this bakery sell this type of bread?"

"Dude, just go to another bakery"

You see how that fails to answer the question?

So basically everybody should have answered the question with "I don't know". You can't give a valid answer as to why it's not in the game. You're simply just debating me on why I told the OP the go play Forza.

 

[Samus]

So basically everybody should have answered the question with "I don't know". You can't give a valid answer as to why it's not in the game. You're simply just debating me on why I told the OP the go play Forza.

The message was to Polyphony, not us. Nobody needed to try and answer it, unless you work for Polyphony.

If you were going to reply you could try and give an educated reason why you think they don't. Telling them to go play another game is useless. For all you know they already play Forza but also want those things in GT.

 

[McLaren]

You can't give a valid answer as to why it's not in the game.

That's quite rich given this was a response to someone pointing out the flaw in your argument about Forza being flashy yet GT has similar, questionable mod decisions included.

Hey look! More nitpicking!

 

[cjsrt4]

That's quite rich given this was a response to someone pointing out the flaw in your argument about Forza being flashy yet GT has similar, questionable mod decisions included.

And my reply was that they don't need to add more. What's your take on the subject? Or did you jump in here to start nitpicking?

 

[McLaren]

And my reply was that they don't need to add more. What's your take on the subject? Or did you jump in here to start nitpicking?

 

[cjsrt4]

Because that's exactly what it is. Finding every little detail to argue over. My argument is simple, I don't agree with the OP. I don't feel the need to have a supercharger sticking out of the hood or having the need to change clothes in between races. And those are my opinions. I keep replying for the simple fact that now 3 of you are triggered over my opinion.

 

[Famine]

triggered

Nice buzzword.

This is a discussion forum. People are trying to have a discussion and you don't seem to want to - but you do seem to want to make a bunch of posts about how other people shouldn't be having a discussion even though you were happy to volunteer your opinion for discussion in the first place.

You don't have to take part in any discussion, though it does naturally raise the question of why you joined a discussion forum and advanced your opinion, but you also don't get to shut it down.

I do.