Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

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See, I was pretty adamant that the clone theory of mine was false, and I put very little faith in it...but always put faith in the octo-mask. You didn't, however.

No, that's not correct. I knew it was a mask making Old Snake into a Young Snake, as I pointed out there was white hair seen near the back of Young Snake's neck, thus proving it was Old Snake and the Octo-mask.

However, what I didn't understand was how the "Young Snake" (Old Snake with the Octo-mask) could so easily smoke a cigarette. I found that very odd.
 
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Limited Edition MGS4 Playstation 3 bundle for the US.

For $600, you can have:
  • Matching gun metal 40GB PS3 and Dual Shock 3
  • Limited edition version of MGS4 including Metal Gear Online
  • MGS4 soundtrack CD
  • Making of documentry on a Blu-Ray disc
So, who's buying? It is very, very tempting.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/16/metal-gear-solid-4-limited-edition-ps3-for-north-america-detaile/
 
I'm not a fan of the color. I also don't care for the features. I'm not going to get it.

Though, I think I would like one of the Silver PS3 MGS4 bundles. But, that's only for Japan.
 
Maybe they'll release a silver PS3 eventually; I picked up a silver PS2 for a song in about January-February 2005 (I'd finished school and as taking a year off, but all my friends moved away and my job meant I had zero time for a social life of any kind), but that was five years after the PS2's release. I only got it for so little - there was nothing wrong with it - because a local store needed to clear all of their stock because they were moving to another premises.

Wow. I just realised that had nothing o do with the topic at hand ...
 
I read on Joystiq today that the Limited Edition Gun Metal bundle would only be available in the US from Konami's Web site.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/15/mgs4-gun-metal-gray-ps3-bundle-exclusive-to-konami-website/

While we've known for some time that the "Gun Metal Gray" PlayStation 3 bundle -- featuring a shiny 40GB model, a matching DualShock 3 controller and a Limited Edition copy of geriatric sneakfest, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots -- would be available to Americans, we didn't know until now that it would only be available to Americans logging onto Konami's website. Online and inevitably scarce pre-orders for the $599.99 package will start on May 19th, so you'd better get clicking if you want Snake and Gray Box to face off in your living room.

No, we mean it. Judging by Konami's labyrinthine sign-up process for the Metal Gear Online Beta, you'll need at least several days to prepare a registration, obtain an ID, convert that into e-currency, trade it in for the microfilm, enter the password, steal the key code, write the secret URL on a postcard and summon Hideo Kojima in an arcane ritual.

Note: This bundle is different from the regular, $499 MGS4 bundle which includes an 80GB PS3 and a DualShock 3.
 

1) That's a different bundle, the bundle you linked originally (the Gunmetal launching in the US) is the same bundle that is announced in Japan.

2) Those colors are already available in Japan, wake the hell up.


Basically Sony's just bundling MGS4 with already available colors. That PS3 is not limited. The Gunmetal PS3 is limited.

Thanks.
 
1) That's a different bundle, the bundle you linked originally (the Gunmetal launching in the US) is the same bundle that is announced in Japan.

2) Those colors are already available in Japan, wake the hell up.


Basically Sony's just bundling MGS4 with already available colors. That PS3 is not limited. The Gunmetal PS3 is limited.

Thanks.

So childish. You can never admit when you are wrong. :rolleyes:
 
You can leave the personal insults to PM's. I have no desire to take your bait, deal with it.

The bundle you posted is not limited. It's just like the 80GB PS3 bundle hitting the US. The Bundle I posted IS limited.

Pretty big difference.
 
Here are all the limited edition PS3 bundles:

1. Gun Metal 40GB PS3 bundle: United States

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2. Gun Metal 40GB PS3 bundle: Japan


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3. Black, Silver, White 40GB PS3 Welcome Box: Japan

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4. Black 80GB PS3 bundle : United States

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I want that limited edition gun metal PS3... pity I already have a machine..:indiff: although gloss black looks better..
 
I want that limited edition gun metal PS3... pity I already have a machine..:indiff: although gloss black looks better..

Yes, only the Gun Metal PS3 is limited. Pay no attention to the above bundles (Black, White, Silver) as they are not limited and standard PS3's that can be purchased at any time prior to or after the release of MGS4. They are not limited editions as some members incorrectly stated.
 
Yes, only the Gun Metal PS3 is limited. Pay no attention to the above bundles (Black, White, Silver) as they are not limited and standard PS3's that can be purchased at any time prior to or after the release of MGS4. They are not limited editions as some members incorrectly stated.

You're wrong. Nobody said the multi colored PS3/MGS4 bundles were limited. If they did, point it out now.

LOOK OUT FOLKS! HE's...

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I'm quite happy to state that the next silly comment regarding which colour of PS3 is or isn't limited will result in someone getting upset with me!!!!!

It's not exactly earth shatteringly important, but what it is doing is dragging this thread down.

Play nicely or get grounded, you take your pick guys.


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"Display Copy Only" MGS4 box art revealed. Check out the details. 4.6GB HDD storage necessary.

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EDIT: A look at the Drebin Shop feature of MGS4.


Metal Gear Solid 4 is being billed as the conclusion and culmination of the series, but that's not to say it doesn't bring a few new ideas to the franchise. While most of the game's additions are essentially evolutions and refinements of Metal Gear concepts, one stands out as something unprecedented in 20 years of tactical espionage action: The Drebin Shop.

Run by the enigmatic Drebin, a stylish man whose name (inspired by Leslie Nielsen's goofball Naked Gun "hero" Frank Drebin) is almost as odd as his companion, a cola-guzzling monkey dressed in a mylar diaper, the Drebin Shop is a dramatic change for Metal Gear. Snake's missions have historically been OSP -- that is, on-site procurement, meaning he goes into combat unarmed and makes use of whatever he can find in the course of his adventure -- and MGS4 initially looks to go in the same direction. As the game begins, Snake loses not one but two rifles; the first due to a jammed feed mechanism, and the second as a casualty of a mad scramble to evade a pair of deadly "gekko" battle robots. But the game's familiar arc (which sees him acquire a handgun and a silenced stun pistol a short time later) is completely interrupted when he meets Drebin, a self-described "weapon launderer."

Unlike many previous Metal Gear titles, Snake is able to collect weapons from fallen foes. Unfortunately, most of them can't be used due to "ID locks," a technological safety device which keys guns to the government-controlled nanomachines that regulate the behavior and tactics of the privatized troops (PMCs) who represent the bulk of Snake's opposition. Not being a registered PMC himself, these ID chips prevent Snake from being able to fire these collected weapons. Drebin's role in the game is to bypass these high-tech locks and transform PMC guns into a part of Snake's arsenal.

Of course, Snake only really needs one of any given weapon model, so the surplus he collects become a currency of sorts. Every weapon Snake picks up, whether a locked PMC weapon or an ID-free militia gun, is worth a certain trade-in value -- "Drebin Points." Every gun you pick up is automatically converted into Drebin Points, which can be redeemed immediately in the weapon laundering shop. Conveniently, this shop is available from the main menu, and items purchased are available for immediate use.

It seems an odd fit for a Metal Gear game, as they tend to pride themselves on sporting at least a semblance of realism. But as usual, the writers have employed a bit of hand-waving to explain it: Drebin transactions are conducted through Metal Gear Mk. II, Snake's remote-control surveillance drone. Given that Snake can somehow manage to tuck the bulky 18-inch-tall robot into his skin-tight sneaking suit (along with other less probable items such as rocket launchers and 80-gallon steel drums), using the Mk. II for instant gun purchases isn't really that much more of a stretch. We look to the wisdom of series patriarch Big Boss in these matters: "Don't get worked up over the details."

There are three different types of transactions in the Drebin Shop: Weapons, accessories, and laundering. The latter is the simplest; once you've collected a weapon, Drebin will happily bypass its security chip for a modest fee. The price depends on the item in question. Grenades are ridiculously cheap at 12 Drebin Points and the trade-in value of a rifle looks to begin at 300 points, but unlocking some of the more devastating devices tops out in the thousands. Fortunately, once you've unlocked a weapon, it will always be unlocked... even expendable munitions like grenades.

Purchasing weapons isn't particularly more complex. If you have sufficient cash, you can simply buy guns from the shop menu to add to your equipment stockpile. This is true even for guns you haven't actually seen in person over the course of your adventure; dozens of pistols, submachine-guns, rifles, and launchers were available the instant Drebin's Shop went online for us. Fortunately, this isn't as game-breaking as one might think. You can't just stockpile the best guns immediately -- when you first begin shopping, the high-grade weapons are impossibly expensive. (Director Hideo Kojima indicates that the game's coolest weapon, the historical Tanegashima flintlock rifle, will require three to four complete playthroughs of the game before it's even close to being affordable.) Fans of long-range shooting will have to settle for the merely decent M14EBR rifle at first, as the Dragunov and Mosin Nagant sniper rifles are incredibly expensive.

Luckily, even a modest weapon can approach greatness through customization. The Drebin Shop sells accessories and upgrades as well as the weapons themselves, and nearly every weapon appears to be customizable. In some cases, it may simply be a single front mount -- good for nothing but to attach a flashlight onto (which is more than just a DOOM 3 mod for seeing in the dark -- bring your weapon to bear while a nearby enemy is looking at you and you stand a chance of blinding him). Some larger weapons, however, have four or five hard points for attaching tools and enhancements. The M4 rifle Drebin gives you gratis is one such weapon: The muzzle supports a suppressor, the side mount supports a laser sight for improved accuracy in third-person view, the top mount can host a dot sight for improved accuracy in first-person view, and the barrel is compatible with fore grips (for steadier fire) or a shotgun or grenade launcher mod. Likewise, the inexpensive M14EBR makes an excellent sniper rifle if you mount a scope on its upper point, and it's compatible with suppressors to allow sneaky long-distance takedowns.

Even better is the fact that the Drebin Shop can even be accessed indirectly through the weapons management screen. As you cycle through your available inventory, you can instantly choose to launder captured weapons without visiting the shop menu. And by entering a weapon's customization screen (select a weapon and press L2), you have access to a list of all mods available per hard point -- even the ones you don't currently own. Attaching them (or even purchasing additional ammo) is as simple as selecting the item and paying Drebin's fee. Handily, you can purchase multiple units, which means you can stock up on ammunition or attach a few hundred rounds' worth of suppressors in a single transaction.

It remains to be seen how dramatically this will affect gameplay. On one hand, the ability to stock up on (and never having to worry about running out of) ammo should make battles less stressful. On the other, it could also make the game less challenging, too. About the only thing we didn't notice an option to purchase in the shop was healing items, leading us to wonder if winning some of the game's large-scale battles will ultimately come down to how many rations you've stocked up. Still, we're taking an optimistic view; the in-game economy seems reasonably balanced, and the potential for customization seems like a welcome tradeoff if all that's lost is the stress of rationing ammo. We'll see how well it plays out when the game arrives in just a few weeks.
 
I don't understand why HDD installations are considered bad.
Because some people did buy the 20 gb. I think it is fine, but if games keep it up then it will be necessary to switch out hard drives.
 
Because some people did buy the 20 gb. I think it is fine, but if games keep it up then it will be necessary to switch out hard drives.

They can do what I did and put in a 250GB HDD. I have 100GB left after putting tons of crap on mine. Even an external cheap 3.5" form factor HDD should be fine, too.

It's a minor problem with an easy solution.
 

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