MH370: Malaysian Airlines Flight to Beijing carrying 239 people is lost over sea.

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Famine
I might have overthought this. It could be that someone's phoned their local Chinese takeaway and asked for a #777.
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Hey, that theory is as plausible as some of the other theories that have been trotted out.

With regards to the pilot's flight simulator setup: I find nothing suspicious in that rig. As @TenEightyOne points out, that's pretty routine for a hardcore flightsim user; my own setup for FSX isn't as elaborate but probably more elaborate than the casual gamer's. I only have two monitors and eight Saitek items.

Perhaps he uses his simulator to fly a Golden Age Sims Waco, or an Iris F-15E. These are nothing like flying a tubeliner like the 777.

The only thing that might be remotely suspicious on his rig is if they found a flight plan that starts out headed for Beijing then hangs a sharp left halfway there.
 
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Case solved!
 
Dennisch
I don't see why not?
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The families of 239 people might not find it quite so funny. :indiff:

Note: the NY Times is saying the Malaysian flight passed through no less than 4 Malaysian military radars after switching off its transponder. Yet no human operator noticed the UFO blip, revealed only later by senior officers reviewing the tapes.
 
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Dotini
Note: the NY Times is saying the Malaysian flight passed through no less than 4 Malaysian military radars after switching off its transponder. Yet no human operator noticed the UFO blip, revealed only later by senior officers reviewing the tapes.
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They operate under the motto of "It doesn't exist".

In related news, 11 countries just went missing.. I mean.. they're searching in 11 countries now.
 
Dotini
The families of 239 people might not find it quite so funny. :indiff:

Note: the NY Times is saying the Malaysian flight passed through no less than 4 Malaysian military radars after switching off its transponder. Yet no human operator noticed the UFO blip, revealed only later by senior officers reviewing the tapes.
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Dotini
The families of 239 people might not find it quite so funny. :indiff:

Note: the NY Times is saying the Malaysian flight passed through no less than 4 Malaysian military radars after switching off its transponder. Yet no human operator noticed the UFO blip, revealed only later by senior officers reviewing the tapes.
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Or Malaysian operators deliberately let it through, hence explaining there clumsiness and denial slowing things up #conspiracytheory.
 
Furinkazen
Or Malaysian operators deliberately let it through, hence explaining there clumsiness and denial slowing things up #conspiracytheory.
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If the Malayans acted deliberately to let it through, then it can be taken that there was an anti-Chinese conspiracy, since Malayans and Chinese are locked in tense rivalry, with no love lost. If anti-Chinese then also anti-Russian. There would then be no point in routing the commandeered plane into China or Kazakhstan through a Burmese back-door. So if that is so, then the plane went south into the southern ocean and into Davy Jones' Locker. I don't believe it.

Edit: New but unconfirmed information indicates the pilot was having an emotional meltdown: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-trial-jailed-opposition-leader-sodomite.html
 
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First Al Qaeda link I've seen:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/16/pilots-become-focus-malaysia-airlines-investigation/

Britain's Sunday Telegraph added
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that investigators were examining whether the jet's disappearance was tied to a 9/11-style plot masterminded by Al Qaeda's Khalid Sheik Mohammad. Such a plot was mentioned by a British-born Saajid Badat earlier this week at the New York trial of Usama bin Laden's son-in-law Sulaiman Abu Ghaith.

Badat said that a Malaysia-based Al Qaeda cell of four or five people had planned to take control of a plane, using a shoe bomb to gain access to the cockpit. He added that he had met the jihadists, one of whom claimed he was a pilot, at a terror camp in Afghanistan and given them a shoe bomb for use. The Sunday Telegraph reported that one target of the attack may have been the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur, formerly the tallest buildings in the world.
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Johnnypenso
First Al Qaeda link I've seen:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/16/pilots-become-focus-malaysia-airlines-investigation/
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Their name's been hovering around since the beginning.

I wouldn't trust the Telegraph, it's a sort-of tabloid for slightly-cleverer people, a tabloid tells you what to think then shows breasts so you don't consider the story any further. The Telegraph shows you related things to herd your brain in, it's actually very much like most internet forums would be if they were allowed to make a newspaper.

I wouldn't follow British paper press too much, it's all very commercial, very politically controlled, and very biased.
 
So this is the latest theorised area of location (corridor and last pinged location):

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How is the Northern corridor a viable option - are they saying either Indian, Chinese or Pakistani military radar would have completely missed an unidentified aircraft in their airspace?

I think not. I just cannot see the "Asian" continent as a viable escape route.
 
Mike Rotch
So this is the latest theorised area of location (corridor and last pinged location):

How is the Northern corridor a viable option - are they saying neither Indian, Chinese or Pakistani military radar would have completely missed an unidentified aircraft in their airspace?
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I'd fallen "out of love" with my earlier theory (that it headed that way on a "false flag" of pre-filed flight plans and new transponders). That theory involved getting it down at a remote heavy cargo field or prepared area, ditching, switching, and erm, something else that rhymes and sounds a bit "A-Team".

I'm not sure of the overall range of the ground radar in question, but popping up to 45,000 feet isn't going to help unless you're flying away, you're going to lose that 10,000 offset as you approach the ground station.

What the pop up could do is put you in different air. The 'pilots' could have been taking advantage of higher winds for range. Maybe correct 'winds aloft' were the trigger for their plan?

I think Asia is the most viable escape route. Fractured, remote, rammed with air cargo companies, poor at collaborating and communicating... ideal.
 
Grayfox
A UK chap says the jet was controlled by a mobile phone.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/03/17/11/11/mh370-hacked-with-mobile-phone
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Addressed somewhere already... mad people are mad. :)

You'd need to faff with the plane itself, and you'd need good access to do it. Easier to just hijack the plane and much more reliable. The USAF still struggle to get this tech to work over any distance :)

In better news, everybody can stand back and relax. Tony Abbott's on the scene. Presumably Australia will shell any liferafts it finds, thus alerting the other searchers to their presence?
 
Our goverment cant be seen in that.
Abbott said he is trying to save money and buying a jet like that means he is not saving.
Not to mention the 777 is too technologly advanced for Abbott to understand.
He did say Malcom Turnbull invented the internet.

Plus our current PM is how Howard and Americas President is not bush.
If it were, Howard may get a "Air Force One" style jet.
 
Mike Rotch
How is the Northern corridor a viable option - are they saying either Indian, Chinese or Pakistani military radar would have completely missed an unidentified aircraft in their airspace?
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They operate their military radar on an as-needed basis. And in theory, you could cross over Bangladeshi air space, go through India and get into Nepal before the Indians picked it up. Then you could cross the Himalayas and fly over western Tibet, which is about the loneliest place on earth. Seriously, the Chinese use it to calibrate their satellites, drawing massive figures in the Tibetan Plateau to focus their satellite cameras and correct the trajectories of the satellite. From there, you would get pretty close to Kashmir, and while Indian and Pakistani radar might pick you up, they might not look too closely if the plane was flying away from them. And then, Tajikistan. The east of the country is covered with defunct Soviet military facilities - it was a staging point for the invasion of Afghanistan - which could easily take a 777.
 
Where's James Bond when we need him ? or Solid Snake ? :P I want to believe that there's an operative out there, doing what he does best, taking names, get the ladies and save the world like a boss, BIG BOSS :lol:
 
Ridox2JZGTE
Where's James Bond when we need him ? or Solid Snake ? :P I want to believe that there's an operative out there, doing what he does best, taking names, get the ladies and save the world like a boss, BIG BOSS :lol:
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Big boss doesn't get the ladies like James Bond, he tries to stay focused on the task at hand thus one lady per adventure. James could learn a lesson from John to be honest.

Anyways since we are tossing in all the crazy conspiracy ideas here is one I found on the freescale workers.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=29355
 
Investigators say the final broadcast - "All right, good night", which was sent at around the time the transponders were shut off - was made by the co-pilot, but that neither he nor the pilot had specifically asked to work with the other for that flight.
 
prisonermonkeys
Investigators say the final broadcast - "All right, good night", which was sent at around the time the transponders were shut off - was made by the co-pilot, but that neither he nor the pilot had specifically asked to work with the other for that flight.
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According to this article http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10138359 (If you're Norwegian is a bit rusty I recommend Google translate:) the "All right, good night" was made by the co-pilot, but it occurred at 01:19, however the ACARS was disabled at 01:07.
It has been discussed previously in this thread that the co-pilot recently requested to be changed to 777.
This is raising my suspicion on the co-pilot.
 
prisonermonkeys
Investigators say the final broadcast - "All right, good night", which was sent at around the time the transponders were shut off - was made by the co-pilot, but that neither he nor the pilot had specifically asked to work with the other for that flight.
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The co-pilot had just landed the plane at Kuala Lumpur, his first non-simulator landing on type. It's probable that he was placed with the pilot due to the pilot's instructor status with the airline, that's normally about as much roster planning as you get in a medium-size airline upwards.

The co-pilot is the more likely of the two (in my uneducated opinion) to be the perpetrator (if one of the pilots is involved), it's still possible that they were in it together and just waiting to be rostered together. Maybe one overpowered the other during the diverted flight and crashed the plane?

@Tintorera 01:07 is the time that ACARS last pinged, it would have pinged again at 01:23 or 01:37, if it was on a standard cycle. It doesn't broadcast continuously, just blasts little number packets every now and then.
 
Don't know if you heard, @TenEightyOne, but the pilot's flightsim setup (which had both FS9 and FSX installed) had the PMDG 777-200 installed. Which may be significant, may not mean a freaking thing. I forgot to note the source, but it was in the thread on flightsim.com on the incident.

PMDG aircraft are noted for their in-depth accuracy. And price, heh.
 
That's what was I thinking before.. If the pilot or pilots were planning an alternate route. It would include a unknown runway that might be practiced on the simulator.

It's just a thought.. I'm completely guessing.
 

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