MH370: Malaysian Airlines Flight to Beijing carrying 239 people is lost over sea.

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The plane may have hit the water in a complete different location to the debris.
That's true, but Australia is on the other end of Malaysia, in the opposite end of where the plane was going... I don't see how it's possible that it crashed somewhere and drifted some 1,000 miles around large islands without being noticed. Unless, like previous reports suggest, it turned around and flew back over Malaysia.

Indian Ocean...
I know.
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It would have had to turn around and fly over Malaysia for it to be in the Indian Ocean.
 
If they find a decent enough chunk of the tail there would be no mistaking that MAS logo.

MAS is an old and established airline, and that logo is in no way unfamiliar to anyone who has spent a sufficient enough time on this planet.
 
It would have had to turn around and fly over Malaysia for it to be in the Indian Ocean.

To all accounts, it did, ildd. And then apparently South before blipping out.

I have a graphic somewhere, will try to post it presently.

I'm hoping this is not going to be another Chinese puzzle - one that gives us pieces that don't fit yet have an 'obvious' answer - or at least one we're supposed to believe.
The Aussie PM did add a caveat - that these pieces were only 'possibly' from this flight - yet, we will only know after they have verified it extensively.
 
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IF the found "parts" are the plane, the next thing they need to do is find out why the hell it was going to Australia, because there's no way the wind could have blown it there...

Ask the terrorists that high jacked Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961
Seems australia is a magnet for people.
 
Tony Abbott receives news of the wreckage and can't believe his ears. Nor can I, watching his announcement.

John Young from the AGRSCO (MAGRSCCOAG) confirms largest piece is about 24 metres.

Beeb now saying outbound Orion is picking up long distance radar returns from the area. Three more search planes are following the Orion to be directed in more closely.
 
24 meters? Isn't that about the size of 1 wing?

It would be, according to this dimensions sheet the wingspan is 60.9m, interior cabin width is 5.7m. Bear in mind that the wings don't start until the wing roots...and I'd say 24m per wing could be about right.

If it's an entire wing though, that suggests the plane broke up close to (or on) the water.
 
I think the pilot may have tried to pull off a Hudson landing, but it would be rather pointless.

@TenEightyOne it sounded like you were watching Abbott in a press conference or something, so can I ask if anything else had been said? How long will it take for the planes to report back?
 
I think the pilot may have tried to pull off a Hudson landing, but it would be rather pointless.
There are commercial shipping lanes nearby. In the event of a water landing, the pilots could alert Australian ATC, who would immediately contact any nearby shipping vessels to pick up survivors with flotation devices.

Of course, that assumes the pilots made contact - after all, the transponders were turned off
 
Four hours from RAAF Pearce to the site and four hours back. That gives them two hours' worth of actual time to search the area.
 
Some context of the area being searched:

Chari Pattiaratchi, from the University of Western Australia, said the debris had been located close to the 'Roaring Forties', where the wind created giant swells and waves.

''You may have debris at the surface but the bulk of the aircraft would be at the bottom of the ocean,'' he said. ''It's very deep down there, about five kilometres,'' said Professor Pattiaratchi.

''Trying to get something out from five kilometres in the roughest part of the world is going to be extreme,'' he said.

The currents in the area move from west to east.

''So if it has been in the water for about 10 days it would have drifted about 300 to 400 kilometres to the east toward Perth," said Professor Pattiaratchi.

The debris would likely have been travelling about one nautical mile per hour, or one knot. ''If it keeps going it'll go to the south of Perth or south of Australia,'' he said.

The roaring forties are located forty degrees south, where there was almost no land to slow down the winds. These create strong, high waves and swell, he said.

The currents extend right through the water column because the area is so deep.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/miss...tony-abbott-20140320-354xz.html#ixzz2wU1Pf4Gq
 
Except that salt water would corrode the decals pretty quickly.
They are not post it notes. I think that the decals would last a bit more than 10 days. The exterior of a plane gets some pretty harsh treatment in normal service (temps from -50 to +40, water blasting flying through rain at 800kmh etc).
 
They are not post it notes. I think that the decals would last a bit more than 10 days. The exterior of a plane gets some pretty harsh treatment in normal service (temps from -50 to +40, water blasting flying through rain at 800kmh etc).

They would have several layers of paint and ceramic hard clear coat.
They may also have serial numbers on them if the paintwork is removed.

When that plane went through the ash cloud parts of the front lost its paint due to the ashs sandpaper like effect but some parts were just scratched.
 
2 hours with fading light.
No, the Orions that are being sent there only have enough fuel for about ten hours - four hours out, two hours to search, and four hours back. The P-8 Posiedon that the Americans sent can last a bit longer, but not by much.
 
This area has to be one of the most obscure parts of the globe. That is really far away from anything.
 
Poseidon is on the scene now and has reportedly located the object. Merchant vessel expected to be there by nightfall. RAAF Orions still a few hours out.
 
Watching Air Crash Investigation, it is about QF32 and it's engine issue on the A380 that uses sorcery to fly.
 
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