MH370: Malaysian Airlines Flight to Beijing carrying 239 people is lost over sea.

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Grayfox
I find it odd that a large piece that would be a few kilos in weight would come up from the ocean floor and end up being washed ashore, rather than smaller plastic pieces like interior.

Seeing as you need 5 to 6 people to carry it.
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Grayfox
Being a heavy piece it would have sunk to the bottom quite quickly and once on the bottom of the ocean I cant see how any kind of current will create lift since all the water will be flowing over the top and not the bottom.
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You'd need five or six people to carry a chunk of ice 2m x 50cm x 50cm too. It'd still float.

Heavy things can float if they aren't especially dense or (and/or) if their load is spread over a large surface area. A portion of aircraft wing would certainly sink very rapidly if dropped into the water leading or trailing edge first, but if it landed top or bottom side down it's plausible that it could float.
 
Swagger897
Boeing says no.

Almost all Boeing aircraft wings are painted that color.
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I was just posting the different theories I had read, which I can't find again, thanks to news.com.au's excellent practice of editing stories as they evolve to remove speculation.

Famine
You'd need five or six people to carry a chunk of ice 2m x 50cm x 50cm too. It'd still float.

Heavy things can float if they aren't especially dense or (and/or) if their load is spread over a large surface area. A portion of aircraft wing would certainly sink very rapidly if dropped into the water leading or trailing edge first, but if it landed top or bottom side down it's plausible that it could float.
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It depends on what is inside the piece. Assuming it is nothing, how watertight the joins are is critical, moreso that the orientation of water entry I would say.
 
CNN saying that the number on the debris corresponds to a Boeing 777. It really can only be MH370 at this point.
 
GTRacer22
CNN saying that the number on the debris corresponds to a Boeing 777. It really can only be MH370 at this point.
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No... it can only be from a Boeing 777 at this point. It still needs to be formally linked to the individual plane, which hasn't happened yet.

As for the bag, that strikes me as considerably less likely to be relevant - but it could be the case that La Reunion happens to be a good place to start looking for smaller pieces of debris which may lead to something more significant.

As for Inmarsat and their analysis, I think it is safe to say that there has always been considerable doubt as to their conclusions, but that their conclusions were pretty far from satisfactory in the first place i.e. they could only say that the plane was likely somewhere on two giant arcs when it last made contact with the satelitte and even that wasn't entirely certain... either way, the Inmarsat information is effectively useless, and locating the crash site is now an unrealistic aim - it will probably be the case that finding any trace of the plane at all is the best anyone can hope for.
 
Touring Mars
No... it can only be from a Boeing 777 at this point. It still needs to be formally linked to the individual plane, which hasn't happened yet.
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Okay, that's what I should've said. It corresponds to a 777, therefore it can only be a 777. In terms of 777's lost over the Indian Ocean, there is only one that we know of - MH370. Still, it could be a part that found its way into the ocean somehow.
 
GTRacer22
Okay, that's what I should've said. It corresponds to a 777, therefore it can only be a 777. In terms of 777's lost over the Indian Ocean, there is only one that we know of - MH370. Still, it could be a part that found its way into the ocean somehow.
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That is why your first post was incorrect.
 
Barra333
I was just posting the different theories I had read, which I can't find again, thanks to news.com.au'sellent practice of editing stories as they evolve to remove speculation.
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It's alright but they are still wrong. Almost all T7 wings are the same color (of the different liveries I can think of (maybe Air France but they don't fly a route over there)) and are undoubtedly recognizable..
 
TenEightyOne
An Australian oceanologist believes that the location of the part could be consistent with drift patterns from the presumed area-of-loss.

The BBC are also giving credence to the report that the case was found by the same fisherman. French authorities are now using helicopters to search the waters around La Reunion for further debris.
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Almost every Oceanographer out there will tell you that the currents could have taken debris from the original search area (or anywhere from Perth to Malaysia), but good luck finding a self respecting Oceanographer willing to make a guess at the origin of the debris more than a year ago.
 
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Barra333
good luck finding a self respecting Oceanographer willing to make a guess at the origin of the debris more than a year ago.
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Who needs an oceanographer when we can have the Prime Minister do it? He's already incorrectly predicted that the plane would be found within a week and that was over a year ago ...
 
Barra333
Almost every Oceanographer out there will tell you that the currents could have taken debris from the original search area (or anywhere from Perth to Malaysia), but good luck finding a self respecting Oceanographer willing to make a guess at the origin of the debris more than a year ago.
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You can predict where debris drifted from.

You just need to use complicated math based on known ocean currents speed,(which change with weather and seasons), weight of object, size of object, and the size of object.
And you can trace it back to a rough area which in theory can be used to narrow the search area.
 
I disagree. The degree of uncertainty is too high. The target area might move, but I don't expect it to be any smaller than it is now.
As an example, have a look at this. It show the ocean currents right now. See how many tiny little eddies there are across the ocean. For fun, you can click on the "Earth" button in the bottom left to show wind instead.

Not to mention other influences like rogue waves, curious whales and dolphins, a cargo ship passing closely...

If you miss the mark by a few km, your back trajectory might take you to anywhere up and down the WA coast.
 
There was an article about a guy who burnt suitcases with items inside as well as some seats as it was his job to burn trash and he just found out it may have been from MH370.
So it didnt ring any bells a blue seat or suitcases may have belonged to something?
 
Grayfox
There was an article about a guy who burnt suitcases with items inside as well as some seats as it was his job to burn trash and he just found out it may have been from MH370.
So it didnt ring any bells a blue seat or suitcases may have belonged to something?
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Probably not - it seems that a lot of stuff washes up there. The majority is probably from far more innocent sources, a local who's just keeping the beaches clean is unlikely to connect damaged furnishings or bags with the loss of a plane a year ago on the other side of the world.
 
They probably should have alerted all beach cleaners to hand in everything that washes up from this point forward. But if this happened before they found the wing you really can't blame the guy for doing his job. Although he was probably slightly dim if it plane seats were washing up!

Apparently to better find the wreck they need other items to wash up on other continents such as India so they can triangulate knowing the time and tidal patterns to find the spot but you need a least 3 points to do that.
 
It also depends if the seats were branded or plain.

If they were branded and they were still legible he is an idiot.

But looking at this model of picture of drift patterns, if accurate it would mean some debris should have ended up at western australia(well if you exclude the towelette that was "found")
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Yeah one would have thought stuff would have washed up in Aus by now. Unless the plane in nowhere near where we are searching. I'm think they need to look further North West, nearer the middle of the Indian Ocean.
 
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Global news that every country would know about.
And burning these things would make just as much garbage seeing as many thing are wire reinforced
 
Grayfox
Global news that every country would know about.
And burning these things would make just as much garbage seeing as many thing are wire reinforced
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That's called scrap metal ;)

Bear in mind how much stuff washes up on those beaches, or so we're told.

EDIT: No door has been found.

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However, Malaysia's Director General of Civil Aviation Azharuddin Abdul Rahman told Associated Press: "I read all over media [the new debris] was part of a door. But I checked with the Civil Aviation Authority, and people on the ground in Reunion, and it was just a domestic ladder."
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