Michael Schumacher badly hurt in ski accident

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Message on the new Silver Arrow (Mercedes F1 car).
 
kikie
I guess; "No news is good news".
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Apparently not when you're kept in an artificial coma. There's a lot of emotion in this thread because obviously everyone wants him to get better, which is cool. 👍

But just browse around outside the tabloid/flashy media (e.g. medical journals, quality newspapers) and you'll find that experts on these kind of injuries all agree on the fact that the longer the need to keep someone in coma, the bigger the chances are that they'll have permanent and more extensive brain damage.

We had a similar case in The Netherlands where one of the members of the royal family had a skiing accident and also suffered brain damage, and was also kept in coma for a while. There was a lot of media coverage back then, and the royal physicians/surgeons were quite open in their communication, so there was a lot of quality coverage regarding this particular topic. For the prince it did not end well.

Of course, there's no saying just yet how it will end for Schumacher, but I suspect the outlook is not positive.
 
A Belgian news article mentions that the doctors want to wake Schumacher from his coma. Shumacher reacted positive to the attempts to slowly awake him.
 
Well, they have to wake him up sooner or later.

It hurts me to say this, but it's been a month of induced coma, that level of reduced conciousness will decline to a vegetative state, having to be in assisted respiration machines shows how ... bad the condition is for him.

One could hope him to be woke up within the next 6 or 8 days, otherwise he might just fall into vegetative state.

I hope he will get well, I really do, but at this point ... is hard to keep that hope.
 
After four consecutive weeks of coma its serious skiing accident of December 29, Michael Schumacher has been placed, according to our information, phase of gradual awakening. It is a slow and uncertain process back to life begins for seven time world champion in Formula 1.


Michael Schumacher reacts positively to the process output coma started this week. Whether to remain extremely careful, this is undoubtedly the best news from the Department of Neurosurgery CHU Grenoble month. Many questions arose about the German pilot around which the communication is summarized from the accident a few releases. January 6 that evoked a "critical but stable" condition. Eleven days later, another statement spoke of a "stable" condition. We must therefore believe that the state of Schumi in intracranial pressure was considered stable enough these days to be considered to start the process of awakening.

Ability to relate

For Professor Jean-Luc Trowel, former chief of neurology at the Foch Hospital in Suresnes questioned in L'Equipe on Wednesday, after four weeks in a coma, it was the maximum period to enter this phase. While sedation is gently lowered the alarm manifested by eye opening and "the restoration of communication skills, more or less, that is verified by performing simple commands:" open eyes "," close your eyes "," open mouth "," shake hands "." This ability to relate, Schumacher seems to manifest.

Remains that despite these encouraging signs, Michael Schumacher is not the end of his sentences.The next two months will be, according to the doctor, a period of "confusion" that the old driver will live in a "state of lethargy." As to the recovery, it is impossible to bring a prognosis. "It takes several years in the case of serious head injuries," warns Professor Trowel.

With AG and BG
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Google translated from here: http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule-1/Actualites/Schumacher-une-nouvelle-etape/436132

Better news if indeed confirmed.
 
Sabine Kehm came out saying to only believe news that comes direct from the hospital. I believe this was reiterated by her since the L'Equipe article came out.

To me that sounds like she wants to play down the hope of people thinking he'll be mostly fine. Obviously I hope the best for him but it's hard to stay positive at this point.
 
Moment of truth. Considering it's only been 4 weeks, i'd say it doesn't look too negative for Schumi.
 
hsv010
Moment of truth. Considering it's only been 4 weeks, i'd say it doesn't look too negative for Schumi.
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I have said this before in this thread. The longer someone stays in an induced coma, the more difficult it will be for the person to get better. 4 weeks in an induced coma is pretty long.
 
kikie
I have said this before in this thread. The longer someone stays in an induced coma, the more difficult it will be for the person to get better. 4 weeks in an induced coma is pretty long.
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In the grand scheme of things, no. At least he's actually responding to some instructions.
 
hsv010
In the grand scheme of things, no. At least he's actually responding to some instructions.
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In the grand scheme of things, no? Responding to some instruction doesn't mean a lot at this stage. Don't simplify his injuries and certainly don't simplify a medical induced coma. 4 weeks is very long.

* First: his brain is serioulsy injured

* Second: a medical induced coma is a coma using chemicals which is even a higher risk on top of his injuries. So don't; say in the grand scheme of things, no!

A high-risk procedure
Usually a coma is only induced when other methods have failed, as it carries serious risks. Potential complications associated with barbiturate-induced coma include impaired immune response and infection, blood clots, cardiac arrest and depression of brain activity. The latter makes it difficult to gauge brain function.

"One of the problems with inducing coma is that one cannot judge how bad the neurological injury is with bedside examination, and one is dependent on such measures as pressure readings and EEG (the induced coma may be judged deep enough when suppression of the normal
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You're reacting like you're offended by what I said. Did I say he'll be 100% fine and live happily ever after? No, i'm saying that four weeks is better than say four months. Nobody ever expected it to be a few days. Take your Daily Mail levels of pessimism down a few notches if you want a proper conversation with me.
 
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I thought you were implying that 4 weeks is nothing compared to his injuries. I surely can't deduct that "4 weeks is better than 4 months" from your previous post.

4 weeks is very long for an induced coma. It's not a normal coma but an artificial coma.

Doctors in Grenoble have ruled out giving a prognosis for his condition in the coming days and months. However, it is medically possible for someone to spend several weeks in an induced coma and make a full recovery.

Professor Jean-Luc Truelle, the former head of the neurology department of the Foch hospital in Suresnes, told the paper that a month is the maximum time before entering a phase of coming out of an artificial coma.
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Let's just wait and see what will happen to Schumacher. There are still miracles happing every day, so who knows...... .
 
I can safely say the whole GTP community is pulling for him at this moment. Come on Schumi.
 
So I see that the doctors have decided to wake him up... any info since then? Does he still know his family and what he did for a living?
 
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So I see that the doctors have decided to wake him up... any info since then? Does he still know his family and what he did for a living?
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Nowhere near anything like that. Waking him up will take weeks, if not months, but the initial tests showed blinking responses - a good sign. Still too early to see the full picture.
 
hsv010
Nowhere near anything like that. Waking him up will take weeks, if not months, but the initial tests showed blinking responses - a good sign. Still too early to see the full picture.
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Ah, ok. I misunderstood. I forgot that waking up from a coma is much different than waking up from a nights sleep.
 
hsv010
Nowhere near anything like that. Waking him up will take weeks, if not months, but the initial tests showed blinking responses - a good sign. Still too early to see the full picture.
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Exactly, the only things we can do is wait and hope, also only take what his team of doctors says as fact, anyone other tabloid is probably talking out there backsides.
 
I know it's to early to say anything certain, but these small signs are very positive, considering they've literally only started to wake him.
 

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