Joey D
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You know that's how marketing works right? You make your stuff look better than your competitors. Car ads, mobile phone ads, and bank ads are some of the best examples.
Microsofts latest swipe at GT5
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You know that's how marketing works right? You make your stuff look better than your competitors. Car ads, mobile phone ads, and bank ads are some of the best examples.
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Yeah! And the campaign will have 5 hours! The most epic and biggest one ever seen in the FPS genre! Mind-blowing lasting appeal!!!!!11111!!!!!!!1!!!1!!
/sarcasm in case someone didn't notice.
And yeah I know he meant hype in the US. Nothing could ever begin to compete with GT5 in terms of content and I'm not sure if halo sells more than GT or if it's popular anywhere else.
Maybe it really has nothing to compare with in size - it probably has 6 discs or something. The biggest game in 2010!
/sarcasm
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For the record I don't own a 360, nor have I ever played halo. But with every new true sequel the sales have increased for Halo. Ok I will retract my statement saying it will sell more, but I will say they are going to be quite close in my opinion. It won't surprise me if reach sells more nor will it surprise me if GT5 sells more.
But like many people have said comparing these two games is like comparing apples and oranges.
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you are right there mate, but when I look back at my younger days and I was playing games from the SFC / PS1 era, I don't really see the Japanese developers taking jabs at their competitions. They have a lot of respect towards each other, and they were really focusing on improving the quality of the games themselves and have their competition this way.
I guess it's more of an American way of marketing, huh? I don't know mate, I don't live in the States anyway.
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i do confirm this is an american way of selling and advertising...
You can see that even in EVERY official public elections (whether city, county, state, or presidential)
Each candidate will have the "point-the-finger" technics toward its opponents...
(just as MS and Turn 10 and now this Halo guy)
Pretty lame way to promote yourself should i say...
I guess people have been so used to reading tabloids...
they are even applying that way in their commercials...
... but i digress.
You can see that even in EVERY official public elections (whether city, county, state, or presidential)
Each candidate will have the "point-the-finger" technics toward its opponents...
(just as MS and Turn 10 and now this Halo guy)
Pretty lame way to promote yourself should i say...
I guess people have been so used to reading tabloids...
they are even applying that way in their commercials...... but i digress.
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You think it's a joke just like the last dozens of them he made. He's totally serious about it though, that's the thing
You do know Dan Greenwalt is not the same person as Aaron Greenberg, right?
Each candidate will have the "point-the-finger" technics toward its opponents...
(just as MS and Turn 10 and now this Halo guy)
Pretty lame way to promote yourself should i say...
I'm not condoning the comments, but you do realize it's the reporters that bring up the competition during the interview.
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AG and DG share the same mouths....
It is the reporter's job, i agree, but it is also AG responsibility to choose his words ... in this case, the reporter got exactly what he wanted... AG and DG are too dumb to "fight" honorably...
Havent reporters brought that competition to Kaz as well, and what did he say??
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You so totally fail it's actually funny.
Halo Sales:
Halo: Combat Evolved (5 million)
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo 3 (8.1 million)
Halo 3: ODST (3 million)
Total = 24.1 million copies
Gran Turismo Sales:
Gran Turismo (10.85 million shipped)
Gran Turismo 2 (9.37 million shipped)
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (14.89 million approximately: 7.14 million in North America, 1.89 million in Japan, 5.85 in Europe)
Gran Turismo 4 (10.76 million approximately: 2.97 million in North America, 6.36 in Europe, 1.26 in Japan)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (3.94 million)
Total = 49.81 million copies
Source.
So for every halo sold, there's two GT's sold.
HALO FAIL!! 
No Halo has matched a FULL Gran Turismo game in sales.Like Joey said, Gran Turismo....it's serious business.
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+1 👍 this!
Halo is overrated and overhyped, does a Halo fan actually want another Halo game, one that seems to be rushed, since the last one came out less than one year ago?
Halo won't help Microsoft to sell consoles either, since every major Halo fanboy allready has an Xbox360. I bet the RROD caused more people to buy a new Xbox360 than Halo 3 did.
You so totally fail it's actually funny.
Halo Sales:
Halo: Combat Evolved (5 million)
Halo 2 (8 million)
Halo 3 (8.1 million)
Halo 3: ODST (3 million)
Total = 24.1 million copies
Gran Turismo Sales:
Gran Turismo (10.85 million shipped)
Gran Turismo 2 (9.37 million shipped)
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (14.89 million approximately: 7.14 million in North America, 1.89 million in Japan, 5.85 in Europe)
Gran Turismo 4 (10.76 million approximately: 2.97 million in North America, 6.36 in Europe, 1.26 in Japan)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (3.94 million)
Total = 49.81 million copies
Source.
So for every halo sold, there's two GT's sold.
Like Joey said, Gran Turismo....it's serious business.
Umm your numbers are a bit off....
Gran Turismo 10,850
Gran Turismo 2 9,370
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14,890
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1,560
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue 1,350
Gran Turismo 4 10,830
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 4,170
Total: 53,020
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html
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Sadly Halo Reach WILL outsell GT5. Only because there are more 13 year old gamers than mature ones.
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Halo is an XBOX exclusive game SO IT WON'T BE THE BIGGEST GAME OF 2010. I don't think that GT5 would be the one(exclusive, non gentle for begginers etc.) because it is gonna be Final Fantasy 13 man....
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He didn't need the padding of the Concepts and Prologues to prove his point.
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I guess GT5 will sell 12-13 million copies (lifetime)
Halo Reach probably 8-9 million copies (lifetime)
That would mean Halo Reach will be the best selling Halo of all time, but it still won't match GT5. I think GT5 will sell like GT3, or a little bit less, since the competition is better this generation.
Halo Reach probably 8-9 million copies (lifetime)
That would mean Halo Reach will be the best selling Halo of all time, but it still won't match GT5. I think GT5 will sell like GT3, or a little bit less, since the competition is better this generation.
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Yawn, notice how Sony or PD never mentions MS but MS always talking out their aaaaa about PD and Sony, that's what frightened animals do when their cornered, make noise.
For a racing "sim" with such a "small" demographic it manages to move copies monumentally.
Actually no, the figures are in (K) 1=1000 units.
For a racing "sim" with such a "small" demographic it manages to move copies monumentally.
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Why doesn't Microsoft talk about how 90% of their consoles have died within the first year of use.
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Umm your numbers are a bit off....
Gran Turismo 10,850
Gran Turismo 2 9,370
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14,890
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1,560
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue 1,350
Gran Turismo 4 10,830
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 4,170
Total: 53,020
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html
My figures aren't off....wikipedia's are.
Well he did have GT5P in his list.
And its incredible how much GT5P is still selling.
I used GT5P as an example that even as a "demo", it's still sold more than H3: ODST has!
How do you guys think the install base will affect sales? I'm presuming there are less PS3's around today than there were PS2's when GT4 was released? We might see slower initial sales but might reach the same numbers as GT4 over time?
EDIT: At the same time I guess more copies of GT4 was pirated when it was released and since pirating isn't possible on the PS3 as far as I'm aware that could affect the sales positively =)
EDIT: At the same time I guess more copies of GT4 was pirated when it was released and since pirating isn't possible on the PS3 as far as I'm aware that could affect the sales positively =)
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You can quote me on this but Halo Reach will sales around ODST and maybe lower. People have been waiting a long time for games like Starcraft 2, God of War III, Metal Gear Raiden, Splinter Cell, Twisted Metal, Alan Wake and ofcourse Gran Turismo 5. This gen there have already been 3-4 Halo games.
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Halo has milked it for all it's worth, and it shows. No one wants to play Halo anymore, so I'll be surprised to see how Halo Reacharound sales are.
GT5 however, will outsell FM3 without a doubt, as well as FM4, probably combined. Hell GT5P even out sold FM2.. If less than a demo outsells your full game... on a less inferior system (just saying because not as many have been sold) then you need to go back to the drawing board. GT5 though will sell thousands of consoles. Even people not really interested in gaming are going to pick up a PS3 because they know how serious GT is.. And I think when sales rocket SCEI might realized they should've pushed for a earlier release
GT5 however, will outsell FM3 without a doubt, as well as FM4, probably combined. Hell GT5P even out sold FM2.. If less than a demo outsells your full game... on a less inferior system (just saying because not as many have been sold) then you need to go back to the drawing board. GT5 though will sell thousands of consoles. Even people not really interested in gaming are going to pick up a PS3 because they know how serious GT is.. And I think when sales rocket SCEI might realized they should've pushed for a earlier release
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Picture this - I'm standing in an electronics store and there's a big stack of 360s with a big sign on top that says "$0 - FREE!!!!!" and right next to it is a big stack of PS3s with a sign on top that says "$100". I pick up a 360, hold it as high above my head as I can until all the other patrons are staring at me. Then I SMASH the thing as hard as I can into the ground! Then I start jumping up and down on top its remains while laughing maniacally. Then I grab a PS3 and pay $100 for it. Sorry MS but a >50% failure rate amounts to 100% epic fail from where I sit. You'd have to pay me - a lot more than the price of a 360 - before I'd stomach having one in my home.
And for me, Sony VS. Microsoft fanboyism doesn't even come into it. If Microsoft wasn't so utterly reprehensible, my feelings for Sony and MS would probably be about the same. As it is I find them both pretty detestable.
I don't own a PS3. I pretty much hate all consoles. However if GT5 is good enough (meaning GT4 had way too many bugs for my taste), I will buy a PS3 to play it.
Exactly.
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I don't think the 360 will drop lower than a PS3, although it should, it has a lot of money to make up for a 56% failure rate. Not to mention it goes to show you the worth of a PS3, a 360 is going to have to revamp to a Blu Ray player, WITH backwards compatibility on all models so people can continue to play their 'best selling games' which will put the price of the nex gen Xbox over the top for price.
2010 and beyond will set off Sony and reset them in the thrown of top selling consoles and games. PS2 was the best selling of all time, and with all the perks of being a lot more user friendly and free online, along with all the good games coming out I think a lot of people will make the switch for 2010
2010 and beyond will set off Sony and reset them in the thrown of top selling consoles and games. PS2 was the best selling of all time, and with all the perks of being a lot more user friendly and free online, along with all the good games coming out I think a lot of people will make the switch for 2010
Umm your numbers are a bit off....
Gran Turismo 10,850
Gran Turismo 2 9,370
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14,890
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1,560
Gran Turismo 4 Prologue 1,350
Gran Turismo 4 10,830
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 4,170
Total: 53,020
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html
No, if you look Closely it says K (meaning thousands) so 10,850 k = 10 850 000
So wikipedia was correct
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