Mid-Field Supercar Shootout '15 - Congratulations to the Champion DolHaus!

[doblocruiser]

What does the Clueless Rule mean?

 

[Thorin Cain]

It was something brought into a past challenge (or past challenges, I'm not 100% sure.) See here!

 

[doblocruiser]

So if I understand correctly it is allowed to enter this car (F40) but it has no additional power upgrades.

It has been a very long time since I tuned something so please put me on the maybe list as a tuner.

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@CSLACR Is it possible to explain a bit more of how to enter tunes? Has it to be done by PM , Database or posted in here?

 

[Thorin Cain]

I'm sure @CSLACR will have the regulations for it worked out and updated later in the OP 👍
It might even have more power upgrades, who knows?

 

[Otaliema]

What does the Clueless Rule mean?

The clueless rule from my understanding is a car that is under powered for the challenge. So it wont be as fast, but it gets a lap bounus to make up for it's slower speed.
Eg a 400 PP car in a 550 PP challenge.

 

[shaunm80]

Put me down for a tuner. I should have some time before deadline to put something together.

 

[CSLACR]

The F40 is good to go, it's just a psychopath, I have a spec for it, I'll throw it up there, sure. 👍

@Ridox2JZGTE - Countach? Also has a spec. I'll try it again and see if I can find a spec I like. 👍 That's my first bedroom poster car there sir. Desperately wanted to add it, but it wasn't keeping up. :/

So if I understand correctly it is allowed to enter this car (F40) but it has no additional power upgrades.

It has been a very long time since I tuned something so please put me on the maybe list as a tuner.

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@CSLACR Is it possible to explain a bit more of how to enter tunes? Has it to be done by PM , Database or posted in here?

To enter a tune, you just post it in here or you can link it from another page if you're lazy.

 

[Otaliema]

Desperately wanted to add it, but it wasn't keeping up. :/

Clueless rule car #2

 

[CSLACR]

Does anyone believe that aero kits affect performance? (Outside of extremely minor differences from the measly 020 aero wings have to offer, that is)
I'm debating just banning it/making it mandatory.(car by car would be most likely).

Clueless rule car #2

Quite a few almost-made-its laying around. 19, to be exact. (Had 41 tester cars)

 

[DolHaus]

Does anyone believe that aero kits affect performance? (Outside of extremely minor differences from the measly 020 aero wings have to offer, that is)
I'm debating just banning it/making it mandatory.(car by car would be most likely).


Quite a few almost-made-its laying around. 19, to be exact. (Had 41 tester cars)

I haven't seen any clear evidence either way in the case of aero kits, I've never noticed a tangible change but I would be hesitant to test a car without if it was spec'd with one just because I'm unsure of the potential effects.
Wings can definitely change things though, whether this is a positive or negative effect is entirely down to the car and the track 👍

 

[Otaliema]

Does anyone believe that aero kits affect performance? (Outside of extremely minor differences from the measly 020 aero wings have to offer, that is)
I'm debating just banning it/making it mandatory.(car by car would be most likely).


Quite a few almost-made-its laying around. 19, to be exact. (Had 41 tester cars)

Yes aero kits affect the car the rear wings create a noticeable amount of drag and induce understeer in the cars.
Front kits do generate a small amount of frontal downforce but not much.

 

[CSLACR]

Nu-uh

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

The F40 is good to go, it's just a psychopath, I have a spec for it, I'll throw it up there, sure. 👍

@Ridox2JZGTE - Countach? Also has a spec. I'll try it again and see if I can find a spec I like. 👍 That's my first bedroom poster car there sir. Desperately wanted to add it, but it wasn't keeping up. :/

I don't mind if it's not keeping up a little bit The car is just too sexy

 

[Otaliema]

Nu-uh

I'm missing something

 

[MrGrado]

Any reason why transmission tuning is prohibited?

 

[DolHaus]

Any reason why transmission tuning is prohibited?

Its an attempt at balancing I believe 👍

 

[Otaliema]

@CSLACR
For the record the net total cost of all the cars if you have none is 7,681,570 for them all.

Mandatory parts cost 54,500 per car total of 1,308,000 for mandatory parts.

Total mandatory costs for participation *assuming one of each car is tuned* 8,989,570 cr.

 

[Otaliema]

Nothing that changes the power, weight, or PP of a listed vehicle.

Just a thought but you might want to add weight distribution to that list as well...cause I could put some windows and carbon hood on the car and slap the 10-20 kg in the the car not change the PP and get a little better distro for stability.

 

[CSLACR]

Any reason why transmission tuning is prohibited?

Because I hate the sound of gear whine. And I love the sound of engines.
Especially Italian and American ones.

Just a thought but you might want to add weight distribution to that list as well...cause I could put some windows and carbon hood on the car and slap the 10-20 kg in the the car not change the PP and get a little better distro for stability.

I had it listed as "Weight is stock for all", I added "(no weight reductions or ballast)" now. 👍

I think it's reasonably clear by now there's a set build on cars, although I'm not sure of a term besides "build", which is very different from a tune. The "build" is set. Build meaning power parts, stock weight and transmission.

@CSLACR
For the record the net total cost of all the cars if you have none is 7,681,570 for them all.

Mandatory parts cost 54,500 per car total of 1,308,000 for mandatory parts.

Total mandatory costs for participation *assuming one of each car is tuned* 8,989,570 cr.

I guess there won't be many people who don't like supercars entering then. (but we already got one )

 

[CSLACR]

Posted

Ferrari F40 '92
614/1352/566 - High RPM Turbo - Sports Computer, Cat - Intake - Exhaust manifold
Lamborghini Countach '88
677/1490/571 - ES3 - Sports Computer, Cat - Intake - Exhaust manifold



I'm curious to hear how much of a gap you guys are finding between the faster and slower cars of the field?

 

[Otaliema]

Base testing on 1/3 of the cars done, already seeing a trend on the lap times. Clear standouts one both sides of the time spectrum.


@CSLACR is this going to be a 5 lap average challenge or the normal Hot lap style challenge? Cause that will affect which cars get picked and how they are tuned for me anyways.

So far forward it's 1.1 seconds Reverse it's 2.3 seconds combined 3.2 seconds.

 

[xande1959]

trust more in Lambo

 

[TurnLeft]

Posted

Ferrari F40 '92
614/1352/566 - High RPM Turbo - Sports Computer, Cat - Intake - Exhaust manifold
Lamborghini Countach '88
677/1490/571 - ES3 - Sports Computer, Cat - Intake - Exhaust manifold



I'm curious to hear how much of a gap you guys are finding between the faster and slower cars of the field?

Haven't tested many but out of the three I tried so far there was more than 1 second.

trust more in Lambo

Go for it my friend , if you can tame it.

Base testing on 1/3 of the cars done, already seeing a trend on the lap times. Clear standouts one both sides of the time spectrum.


@CSLACR is this going to be a 5 lap average challenge or the normal Hot lap style challenge? Cause that will affect which cars get picked and how they are tuned for me anyways.

So far forward it's 1.1 seconds Reverse it's 2.3 seconds combined 3.2 seconds.

Wow , that's a lot more dedication than I've put , it's too bad your favorite weapon has been taken away , can't wait to see what your going to come up with, I might just try the same trick as the last competition and tie a cable to your rear 👍 to be pulled on the podium.

 

[Otaliema]

it's too bad your favorite weapon has been taken away

Resistance is futile, Your tuning style and distinctiveness will be added to my own. You will be assimilated.

 

[xande1959]

Countach LP400 '74

prepared in deep forest circuit

 

[Thorin Cain]

Well, I've got the 3 main Ferraris and Gallardo all within 0.400 with the allowed specs all still running default settings. I'll be trying the rest over the next couple of days to see how they compare too.

Gotta run, should really be working right now...that @TurnLeft's a bad influence.

 

[Brewguy44]

Well, I've got the 3 main Ferraris and Gallardo all within 0.400 with the allowed specs all still running default settings. I'll be trying the rest over the next couple of days to see how they compare too.

Gotta run, should really be working right now...that @TurnLeft's a bad influence.

Oh yeah, gotta watch out for @TurnLeft He's a rascal

 

[TurnLeft]

Resistance is futile, Your tuning style and distinctiveness will be added to my own. You will be assimilated.

 

[Brewguy44]

What about AC,TC,ASM,ABS and SRF? I use a DS3 and was just wondering what the parameter's are?.

 

[CSLACR]

What about AC,TC,ASM,ABS and SRF? I use a DS3 and was just wondering what the parameter's are?.

I suppose whatever works best for the tester to put laps down.

Base testing on 1/3 of the cars done, already seeing a trend on the lap times. Clear standouts one both sides of the time spectrum.


@CSLACR is this going to be a 5 lap average challenge or the normal Hot lap style challenge? Cause that will affect which cars get picked and how they are tuned for me anyways.

So far forward it's 1.1 seconds Reverse it's 2.3 seconds combined 3.2 seconds.

I'm surprised to hear it grew like that on Reverse.


As for the shootout, I guess you're seeing why I like the idea of one that involves more than a single good lap.
Currently set to just run for best laps each direction though, saving the "track day" shootout for another day I guess.