[Mod] Gran Turismo 2 plus (bug fixes, restored content and new content) - beta 7 released

[pez2k]

Is the gearing for the Honda Accord Type R at all accurate? Somehow I doubt the actual car had gearing as tall as it is in game.

It looks like they used the reverse gear ratio as the final drive ratio by mistake.

 

[Epic B]

It looks like they used the reverse gear ratio as the final drive ratio by mistake.

That would explain it. Are the actual gear ratios otherwise correct?

 

[submaniac93]

i fixed them a while ago, iirc the ratios are fine, just a wrong final drive

 

[Epic B]

i fixed them a while ago, iirc the ratios are fine, just a wrong final drive

So basically the same scenario as the DB7?

Also, I think the Chrysler Phaeton's power output is overinflated. The car is listed at over 500 horsepower in the garage, when the actual concept vehicle supposedly has only 425 horsepower (I think this is what the dealer listed). The car's V12 engine was basically two Chrysler LH V6 engines joined together, and 425 horsepower sounds believable from such an engine. The LH is even featured in game in the Copperhead. And the Copperhead's weight is also probably misquoted too; the number I've heard from elsewhere is 2855 pounds, not 2160.

Also, why was the Jaguar XJR called the XJR "Vehicle" before?

 

[karelpipa]

Hello pez, thank you for your hard work (and to thers too). Just wanted to ask if its possible 1 certain feature i was missing from GT1; and thats the gear ratio graph in transmission setup.
Is it even possible to add?
Its now a guesswork in GT2.

Also, i am all for setting the horsepower as the same value throughout every version of this mod

 

[ace_cross]

Hello pez, thank you for your hard work (and to thers too). Just wanted to ask if its possible 1 certain feature i was missing from GT1; and thats the gear ratio graph in transmission setup.
Is it even possible to add?
Its now a guesswork in GT2.

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Also, i am all for setting the horsepower as the same value throughout every version of this mod

This would be a great addition to the game. I second this

 

[pez2k]

Hello pez, thank you for your hard work (and to thers too). Just wanted to ask if its possible 1 certain feature i was missing from GT1; and thats the gear ratio graph in transmission setup.

Adding new features would need the game source code, so no, not possible.

Also, I think the Chrysler Phaeton's power output is overinflated. ... And the Copperhead's weight is also probably misquoted too; the number I've heard from elsewhere is 2855 pounds, not 2160.

Also, why was the Jaguar XJR called the XJR "Vehicle" before?

I missed these as they were edited in after I read the original post - I don't think it's worth worrying about exact performance figures for the concept cars when it's quite possible that one or both were never even functional cars. The Phaeton may have been a body on a truck chassis to let them roll it about.

For the XJR, as far as I'm aware it's speculated that it was a Japanese-market trademark conflict with the Yamaha XJR bikes, but no idea on what the truth is really.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

It's been a great job so far @pez2k, your modding project has come along nicely and I like a lot of the changes you done. Also appreciate finally having a couple more cars restored from the demos complete with their own physics. I was also happy to notice one of them being able to compete in its one-make race event.

With that said, I'm working on my own showcase video for your mod like I've done before. Except here, I'm going to basically mention every change it has over the normal GT2; mainly as a guide to newcomers. Part of me though including the prize car list, but in the spirit of your idea of making the prize cars a mystery; I won't do that. Rather, I'll perhaps just place those new prize cars in a separate video with a spoiler tag I guess, maybe have a mystery prize car icon as the thumbnail.

 

[ace_cross]

It's been a great job so far @pez2k, your modding project has come along nicely and I like a lot of the changes you done. Also appreciate finally having a couple more cars restored from the demos complete with their own physics. I was also happy to notice one of them being able to compete in its one-make race event.

With that said, I'm working on my own showcase video for your mod like I've done before. Except here, I'm going to basically mention every change it has over the normal GT2; mainly as a guide to newcomers. Part of me though including the prize car list, but in the spirit of your idea of making the prize cars a mystery; I won't do that. Rather, I'll perhaps just place those new prize cars in a separate video with a spoiler tag I guess, maybe have a mystery prize car icon as the thumbnail.

I totally agree with this. GT2+ is such a modding marvel. Physics, colors, events, all things that have been restored, that never made it to the discs we saw on display at the local electronics store, are here now. It makes this patch serve as the definitive upgrade. Still waiting for a JP soundtrack patch though

 

[karelpipa]

I want to ask if theres plams for a version which will add more things than cd can comtain, whereas making it playable only on some particular programs?

 

[pez2k]

With that said, I'm working on my own showcase video for your mod like I've done before. Except here, I'm going to basically mention every change it has over the normal GT2; mainly as a guide to newcomers.

Excellent, looking forward to seeing it, thanks.

I want to ask if theres plams for a version which will add more things than cd can comtain, whereas making it playable only on some particular programs?

The disc size has never really been an obstacle at any point to be honest. I have no plans for any version that doesn't work on a PS1 console though, as to me that kind of misses the point of it being a modification / bugfix of a PS1 game.

 

[Epic B]

I want to ask if theres plams for a version which will add more things than cd can comtain, whereas making it playable only on some particular programs?

Gran Turismo 2 Combined Disc

What if PlayStation CDs were 1GB and Gran Turismo 2 came on a single disc?

cookieplmonster.github.io

This exists (and does work with Plus) but it doesn't add anything new to the game.

 

[Bhimatama]

Could you restore Impreza Rally Car (from The Grand Valley Endurance prize car) power back to 575 HP like in previous GT1??

 

[pez2k]

Could you restore Impreza Rally Car (from The Grand Valley Endurance prize car) power back to 575 HP like in previous GT1??

I most likely won't, as it was probably intentionally changed to be more balanced with the other rally cars such as the Escort. All of the tools are available for someone else to do it though.

 

[Epic B]

Then what will happen to the Celica Rally Car? That has over 550 horsepower and like the Impreza that's a completely fictionacar.

 

[pez2k]

Then what will happen to the Celica Rally Car? That has over 550 horsepower and like the Impreza that's a completely fictionacar.

Fair point, but I don't have any plans to be changing things for the sake of changing things.

 

[Epic B]

Will the Renault Clio V6 transmission ever get changed? It only has a 5 speed in game when all production examples had a 6 speed, and the stock transmission is too short.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

My only question is how hard would it be to rather than add the 1997 Viper colors to the 1999 Vipers in GT2, to make the actual 1997 Vipers separate cars? and then add them to the dealership like what you did with some of the other cars like the Rufs?

 

[Epic B]

Probably not practical. The Rufs were already hidden in the game as car bodies. There are no hidden 1997 Viper bodies in the game.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

I was wondering: @pez2kis, are you looking for translators?

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Probably not practical. The Rufs were already hidden in the game as car bodies. There are no hidden 1997 Viper bodies in the game.

They were hidden in the demos though and the GTS was playable with its own physics.

 

[pez2k]

Will the Renault Clio V6 transmission ever get changed? It only has a 5 speed in game when all production examples had a 6 speed, and the stock transmission is too short.

I'm not sure. It's a concept car that never had any real specs - the 6-speed production car was a full two years after GT2 came out. It also has more power and a fair bit less weight than the eventual production car, and while the V6 Trophy race car debuted later in 1999 that's again quite different in terms of figures. Also, the production drivetrain was donated from the Laguna V6, and as of 1999 the Laguna still had a 5-speed, which for me leans towards retaining that.

My only question is how hard would it be to rather than add the 1997 Viper colors to the 1999 Vipers in GT2, to make the actual 1997 Vipers separate cars?

It wouldn't be hard, it just requires four duplicate bodies (both Vipers and their RMs) plus two sets of duplicate parts. The mod is already right at the limit of how many bodies and parts that the game can handle, so I'd have to start removing some of the restored cars to do so. This is also why the black Castrol Supra colours are merged into the original prize car instead of having two.

I was wondering: @pez2kis, are you looking for translators?

Not really to be honest, I can't think of anywhere that text has been added that needs to be localised. GT2 has quite a lot of unlocalised text to begin with, and most of what I've added is just car names which are naturally language-independent.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

It wouldn't be hard, it just requires four duplicate bodies (both Vipers and their RMs) plus two sets of duplicate parts. The mod is already right at the limit of how many bodies and parts that the game can handle, so I'd have to start removing some of the restored cars to do so.

Okay, that's good to know and yeah I figured that you were at the limit of what you can do. I was kinda asking because one day I might want to try modding again and do this myself.

 

[BLOOD VETTEL]

Hey everyone, long time lurker here, made an account just to ask this:

Will the '99 Daishin Silvia ever get the same color treatment as the 22B to make it more accurate to the real livery?
Thanks.

 

[submaniac93]

I'll eventually get around to do it, but no idea if pez will use it (or somebody else's, i don't have exclusivity lol) when it's available

 

[pez2k]

Will the '99 Daishin Silvia ever get the same color treatment as the 22B to make it more accurate to the real livery?

It's certainly on my to-do list too. I want to write some tools to make recolours a bit quicker to do, but I've been occupied with other things recently.

 

[Epic B]

It's certainly on my to-do list too. I want to write some tools to make recolours a bit quicker to do, but I've been occupied with other things recently.

How many other recolors do you have planned?

 

[pez2k]

How many other recolors do you have planned?

That depends on how quick and easy I can make the process of recolouring. There are a lot of cars in GT2 with inaccurate paint colours, but I definitely don't plan to change them all.

 

[BuzKillington]

Would it be possible to make a mod that replaces the class S cars with race cars in arcade mode and have the ai drive them?

 

[pez2k]

Would it be possible to make a mod that replaces the class S cars with race cars in arcade mode and have the ai drive them?

In theory - the GT2+ change here to swap the Clio for the Esprit is a template on how you could do it. You'd need to copy over all of the parts data for each car from the GT mode data to the Arcade mode data, then patch the hardcoded car list in the Arcade overlay with the new car IDs, and update the hardcoded stats shown in the menu. All of the attract demos that use the Arcade data will also break, and will need to be removed or re-recorded.

Probably not recommended for your first mod though, as you may also need to figure out how the manufacturer logos work, and may run into unforeseen issues if it was never written to support race cars. It'd be breaking new ground either way.