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[mlbguy4life]

MLB, the reg limits are either 1170 or 1180kg. Should it be 1180 I think one of the cars is 1175 stock.

1180kg, ill change the main post

 

[LAMatrix]

Any one have any lap times for Grand Valley? My best last night was a 1:05.9xx.

I've started some practicing today: 1:05.3xx (offline)

 

[mlbguy4life]

Any one have any lap times for Grand Valley? My best last night was a 1:05.9xx.

with the new regulations ( 325HP & 1180KG ) so far im at 1:05.7ish

 

[ParkerMO125]

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[WyMCoupe]

I'm at 1:05.5's fast laps and low 1:06's consistently. I know I've got a 1:04 in me somewhere I've just got to put it all together. I've got a much better tune on the car this this time as well. Feels a little bit looser and not as twitchy but my tires last a lot longer and I'm turning in faster lap times.

 

[GGGMotorsport]

Not even close as I'm just barely getting into the 1:07's.
Yet with the original specs, I can get into the high 1:06's

 

[mlbguy4life]

Not even close as I'm just barely getting into the 1:07's.
Yet with the original specs, I can get into the high 1:06's

hmmmm........you are using 325HP and 1180kg correct???

 

[ParkerMO125]

Not even close as I'm just barely getting into the 1:07's.
Yet with the original specs, I can get into the high 1:06's

Make sure you are not using engine stage 3, drops torque way too fast. Other than that, you are losing a great amount of time somewhere. You need to watch someone else run laps and study the race line. Shoot for 1:04's

 

[LAMatrix]

Make sure you are not using engine stage 3, drops torque way too fast. Other than that, you are losing a great amount of time somewhere. You need to watch someone else run laps and study the race line. Shoot for 1:04's

Hello ParkerMO125. Thanks for the advice. Which stage do you usually use? Stock, 1 or 2? Do you use turbo as well?

 

[ParkerMO125]

For the rx7 anyways, there is only the stage 3 option or stock. Which turbo I apply will vary from track to track. You have to find out the balance of peak torque, vs just how low torque gets to once youre in the high rpms.

 

[Mirado_7]

For the rx7 anyways, there is only the stage 3 option or stock. Which turbo I apply will vary from track to track. You have to find out the balance of peak torque, vs just how low torque gets to once youre in the high rpms.

Are you sure about the engine stage 3? With stage 3 and turbo stage 2, I'm at 406 ft-lb. With out stage 3 it's only 336. The curve is flatter with out, but with the peak being that much lower I'm, not sure it's worth it.
I wish I was consistent enough to say this next part definitively, but my best laps with each are 3/10s apart with the stage 3 installed being the front runner.
Offline after the servers went down last night 1:04.2xx vs 1:04.5xx, so feel free to add a grain of salt.

 

[ParkerMO125]

As far as I know, with stage 3, and when you limit power back down, the torque drops way too quickly, as opposed to no engine tune. Although it may look like the torque is still higher at its lowest point(compared to no engine tune at its highest/midrange point), its not. The graph is different for each tune, you'll notice this because the peak torque lines for each, are at roughly the same spot on the graph. Even more so, I'm fairly confident at 325hp, the car is all around faster with no engine tune, because I'm very familiar with the car now and can tell from track testing. Worth noting i don't take the gears to redline, unless I can get to the braking point without having to go up another gear.

 

[Mirado_7]

As far as I know, with stage 3, and when you limit power back down, the torque drops way too quickly, as opposed to no engine tune. Although it may look like the torque is still higher at its lowest point(compared to no engine tune at its highest/midrange point), its not. The graph is different for each tune, you'll notice this because the peak torque lines for each, are at roughly the same spot on the graph. Even more so, I'm fairly confident at 325hp, the car is all around faster with no engine tune, because I'm very familiar with the car now and can tell from track testing. Worth noting i don't take the gears to redline, unless I can get to the braking point without having to go up another gear.

I really wish that graph had more numbers on it, but I'll be online after work today trying to finalize my opinion on the matter. Having your peak power output at 5100 rpms is really throwing me off, I just can't bring my self to shift anywhere near that early.
Can't wait for tonight's race! May the PSN gods smile on us all.

 

[ParkerMO125]

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I really wish that graph had more numbers on it, but I'll be online after work today trying to finalize my opinion on the matter. Having your peak power output at 5100 rpms is really throwing me off, I just can't bring my self to shift anywhere near that early.
Can't wait for tonight's race! May the PSN gods smile on us all.

Yeah you wouldn't ever want to shift that early, next gear would be way too low hp. Im ideally shifting around 6750, again, unless I can ride that gear out to the braking point, then I'm not shifting.(loss of acceleration)

 

[GGGMotorsport]

This may seem a stupid question but how are you guys figuring out the peak power shift points without the scale on the graph. Am I missing something?

 

[ParkerMO125]

This may seem a stupid question but how are you guys figuring out the peak power shift points without the scale on the graph. Am I missing something?

You're not missing something, the game is the graph shows I think 8500rpm as the top, and 0 on bottom, and screen shows max hp torque, via the lines, the rest is guestimating it all roughly, so middle of the chart is 4250, 6375 3/4ths up, ect.

 

[GGGMotorsport]

Thats what I thought but started to second guess myself and thought I was missing something. Thanks

 

[Mirado_7]

If you're in your garage it tells you the rpm for the peak hp and torque.

 

[ParkerMO125]

If you're in your garage it tells you the rpm for the peak hp and torque.

Yes, although this isn't where you'd want to shift by anymeans, incase there is confusion.

 

[Mirado_7]

Yes, although this isn't where you'd want to shift by anymeans, incase there is confusion.

Well you want to be as close to it as possible with out going below it after you shift though right?

 

[ParkerMO125]

In gebe

Well you want to be as close to it as possible with out going below it after you shift though right?

in general, think of it as a big even hill. If you shift too soon once downhill, you'll be too far down the hill once you go back up. Ideally you want to be at about the same torque when you start a gear, as you will be once you shift that gear. Hitting peak torque somewhere in the middle roughly.

 

[Mirado_7]

In gebe
in general, think of it as a big even hill. If you shift too soon once downhill, you'll be too far down the hill once you go back up. Ideally you want to be at about the same torque when you start a gear, as you will be once you shift that gear. Hitting peak torque somewhere in the middle roughly.

Hmm I think I get you, but peak torque (4200) on these is below the peak hp (5100). That's with stage 3 and a 8000 redline.

 

[ParkerMO125]

It's really a matter that greatly depends on the engine and tranny at hand, but that's a basic general concept of what happens, or should be happening.

 

[ParkerMO125]

Hmm I think I get you, but peak torque (4200) on these is below the peak hp (5100). That's with stage 3 and a 8000 redline.

Ignore the hp when tuning gears, horsepower is dogpower when there is no torque.

 

[GGGMotorsport]

Well thats interesting then. According to my graph, Peak torque is at 4000 RPM which based on the above (according to my graph) I should shifting at 5000 RPM's which is way below what I was shifting at 6300 and the car now seams to be a slow pig off the corners. I thought I understood this thing. 🤬 it, I'll do the best I can

 

[Mirado_7]

Ignore the hp when tuning gears, horsepower is dogpower when there is no torque.

Right, but my challenge is that the torque only appears like a shallower drop off on the graph because it is 72 ft-lbs lower at the peak.

It's showing 336 just as high as 408, these graphs make no 🤬 sense.

 

[ParkerMO125]

Well thats interesting then. According to my graph, Peak torque is at 4000 RPM which based on the above (according to my graph) I should shifting at 5000 RPM's which is way below what I was shifting at 6300 and the car now seams to be a slow pig off the corners. I thought I understood this thing. 🤬 it, I'll do the best I can

I'm at work, it'll get with you when I'm off. That's a very low peak trq in general, ill check my settings and get back with you, there's another important factor in play when tuning gears, because you also want to be at highest rpm possible while cornering, to help push the car through the corner.

 

[nissman]

How do you guys get around the ''pit stop bug'' in an endurance series?

Asking because our league is on hold untill PD fixes all these bugs.

 

[ParkerMO125]

Right, but my challenge is that the torque only appears like a shallower drop off on the graph because it is 72 ft-lbs lower at the peak.

It's showing 336 just as high as 408, these graphs make no 🤬 sense.

That's what I meant earlier when I said the graph is different for each tune. Looking at both pics, at around 6500ish rpm, roughly the 2nd to last vertical line, the first pic torque seems to be about 1/4 of the way down from peak, so about 250 torque. The second pic, appears almost half way down from peak at 6500, so about 200 torque.

 

[ParkerMO125]

How do you guys get around the ''pit stop bug'' in an endurance series?

Asking because our league is on hold untill PD fixes all these bugs.

We haven't encountered anything besides the less grip less mpg on second stint and thereafter.